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13 hours ago, Tr3ach said:

Hes also a month older than Mingo.   Drafting old "raw" players was the style of the previous regime.

Considering we sent like 75 guys to his pro day, it must be in this regimes wheelhouse as well. 

2 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I do wonder what would have happened if we hired Harbaugh in 2011 or fired Ron after the 2012 season. Maybe Cam would have had longer career.

Not firing Moron and letting him luck into a COTY award really fuged us. 

We could have been in the mix for the super bowl on a yearly basis with good coaching instead of whatever the hell Ron and Shula were doing. 

5 hours ago, mccjeff said:

Route for the next qb they acquire. What are you going to do? Bitch about the next one too?

Sorry if we are all not falling for the Bryce bullshit again, he just had one of the worsts seasons ever by an NFL QB and from what we have seen on the NFL field with him I dont see it getting much better. 

Too slow to threaten with his legs, arm too weak to make the D account for the deep ball, etc, etc...

1 hour ago, pantherclaw said:

46.1 yards. 

That's Youngs average of yards per catch with passes over 20 yards.  College yes.... proof he can still sling it. 

Completed at 36% in college lmao that translates to like 15-20% in the NFL, even Mac Jones was completing his deep shots at 50% in college.

Bryce is a bum, this season is not going to be any better, the only way we will win more games is by going run heavy and hiding Bryce. 

8 hours ago, Aussie Tank said:

He killed it with Williams in college. Bryce is gonna flip the narrative on him this year with a much better oline better weapons and competent coaching. He’s still the same player that most analysts loved 

Why do we need a vertical threat? Its like you guys just dont get it. 

The opposing D can stop their deep zones at 25 yards and never have to worry about Bryce throwing it over their heads.

Even if he does manage to get it over them, he only completes his deep passes at like 30% so nothing to even worry about.

The field is condensed with Bryce at QB and there is no way to get around it. 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

We had already seen at Bama. That's when the hilarious claim that Bryce was having to carry inferior talent at ALABAMA started up.

Bryce was the inferior talent at Bama, IDK what people were looking at.

1 minute ago, Wolfcop said:

We will see once he has blocking 

Blocking isnt going to change the fact that his passes beyond about 20 yards are wildly inaccurate, the same thing was true in college.  

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2022/2/16/22937561/superlatives-2021-alabama-crimson-tide-football-report-card-quarterbacks-plenty-of-room-to-grow

Accuracy.

Bryce Young was easily the least accurate starter Alabama has had since Jalen Hurts.

Last season, he completed just 2/3rds of his passes (66.9%) — the lowest for a ‘Bama starter since 2017, when Jalen Hurts completed 61% of his throws. Before that? You have to go back to 2007, when John Parker Wilson was running for his life behind a bad line and an unsteady running game (holy poo, déjà rêvé).

There were many reasons for that stat. Drops by wide receivers were certainly a factor, and especially as the Tide got further into its depth chart. And so what the line. But much of Byrce’s stat line was the product of simple execution errors. Young’s early-season deep ball accuracy was especially a concern, and it took most of a season for that aspect of his game to be wrinkled out. On throws over 20 yards, Young “improved” by year’s end hit 36% of his deep shot. It was so bad early, in fact, that coming out of the LSU game, he had completed just 10 such throws all season.

By contrast, Tagovailoa and Jones hit between 49% — 59% of their deep balls.

The best TEs in the league were not first round guys. Those amazing first round TE prospects rarely pan out. 

Kelce was drafted in the 3rd and Kittle was drafted in the 5th. 

Elite TEs can be found later in the draft, even Gronk was a 2nd rounder. 

Just now, PappyMay said:

We could triple our win total this year and would still be picking at 5-6. 6 wins and showing signs of improvement. I wouldn’t be over the moon but I could live with that. 

I feel like if we only get 6 wins we are still terrible and running a scheme that tries to hide the QB, fug that. 

8 wins over 2 seasons is not enough to keep his job imo. 

1 hour ago, PappyMay said:

If it’s on a cheap 1 year deal I’m not against it. Gives us even more of an option to wait until 65 for WR if we target something else in the 2nd.  Let’s be real. I hope we see improvement this year but Mcmillian from Arizona and Burden from Mizzou could be are next WR1 in the top 5 next year.

If we are picking top 5 and still rolling with Bryce I will lose all hope. 

Gilmore is better than any CB we have on roster, Horn could pass him if he didnt get hurt just running out of the tunnel. 

Doesnt matter anyway, we arent competing this year with boy wonder at QB. 

14 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I still think those first two years fall on rhule, but his 1st year at the wheel was nothing short of terrible results for both draft and FA players. 

20/20 and allll, but I think tepper should have hired a former GM instead of a rookie one. 

The drafts all looked the same whether Rhule was here or not, it was Fitt and he fuging sucks, never seen a guy get so many passes. 

5 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I’m not a homer, I’m just not emotionally scarred by a bad season. I’ve seen them before. Doesn’t mean we don’t have good players. BC is average sure, but for where he was taken that’s a good pick. Chuba is an average starter, so ditto. Icky only sucked last year, there’s history revision going on but it’s an emotional response to last year. His first year he had some sucky moments but overall very good. Horn played most of year before last and about 1/3 of last year. Can’t predict injuries like that. When he’s on the field he’s a lockdown corner.  I’m not saying Fitts drafts weren’t piss poor but he did hit on some. Hurney was bad too but he also hit on some. If I had to compare the two I’d give Hurney the slight edge, but at least we don’t have to worry about this owner being stupid enough to rehire Fitts. 

Lmao on the slight edge to Hurney, the dude has drafted All Pros/HOFs/Pro bowlers, Fitt has drafted a bunch of Jags. 

Huge edge to Hurney. 

On 4/5/2024 at 8:13 AM, JawnyBlaze said:

Horn is elite when healthy and was the right pick. He’s better than Surtain and the injuries couldn’t be predicted. Ickey is really good, one down year in a clusterfug of bad coaching and Mr. No Pocket Presence doesn’t change that. I’m confident he’ll get back on track. Christiansen and Chuba are decent. 

Stop being a Homer, Horn can't even stay on the field and Surtain is an all pro. 

Chuba is a jag.

BC is a league average OL. 

Icky sucked at pass pro coming out and he hasn't developed at all. 

Fitts drafts were piss poor at best. 

6 hours ago, beckersteen said:

OK, but when have we ever shown the desire to keep our own drafted talent? It's just a weird message to attach to this after trading away CMC, DJ Moore, Burns, Donte Jackson and letting YGM and Jeremy Chinn walk. I guess we still have Ian Thomas lol!

CMC and DJ got traded but they got paid before they did. 

Burns wanted way too much for what he brings to a team.

Jackson was barely more than a JAG at his best. 

Chinn was out of place in our D and ygm....really??  

We have kept plenty of guys over the years, I wouldnt really put too much into the Fitt bullshit, he was one of the worst GM the NFL has ever seen.

Just now, beckersteen said:

"sends a message that the Panthers want to keep their own drafted stars"

 

Uhh jury is still out on that one lmao

Better player and teammate than Burns signed for less money. 

Giants are going to regret that contract.

6 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Has the yearly structure come out yet? I'd be surprised if they didn't defer some of the hit to future years.

Also, there's always Taylor Moton's contract sitting out there, waiting to be extended/restructured.

I think they are going to let Moton play out this year and cut him next offseason.

I am pretty sure we are going to draft a T this year. 

2 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

Someone want to tell NBC?

Panthers signed EDGE Jadeveon Clowney, formerly of the Ravens, to a two-year, $20 million contract.

Ian Rapoport was first with the scoop and Adam Schefter later added the contract details. Clowney most recently played in Baltimore, racking up 9.5 sacks and nine TFLs in his only season as a Raven. Now a mercenary, Clowney has played for four different teams in five years since finishing out his rookie contract with the Texans. Even at 31 years old, Clowney is still a top-end pass-rusher who excels as the foil to another elite EDGE. He will join Brian Burns in Carolina to create a formidable pass-rush for a Panthers defense looking to retool after a disappointing 2023 campaign.

Go Home NBC, your drunk. 

14 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Just put it on the 20 and get rid of kicking altogether.  No FGs No punting No kickoffs

Fug it , no ball. Just fist fight until one team is left standing. 

1 hour ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

NFL about to turn into NBA. All offense no defense. Pure garbage.

Thats what sells with casuals and FF lovers. 

Meh. Just another rule that will be called against us but rarely for us. 

3 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I get that he sucked last year, but the optimist in me ask how any QB would be successful last year, much less as a rookie. Things like this don’t just disappear. He has many many examples just a year prior that proves he can make throws anywhere on the field. His college tape is phenomenal. 

 

Lots of guys are HoF college QBs and completely suck in the NFL. 

His NFL tape from last season is some of the worst ever. 

1 minute ago, CRA said:

Huh?  Thats got nothing to do with saying we have failed to properly rebuild since Cam/Ron era ended.  
 

 

It was 2 different parts, just started off with the ron and cam thing....

Failing to rebuild properly happens when you let the leagues worst GM run rampant for years...

1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

5 catches for 94 yards, the math works out. Thats right under 20 yards per catch which is about as far as Bryce can "sling" it. 

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

QB league.  Stud QB changes the dynamic of so many around him.  Same for really bad QBs. 

we are this bad not just because we draft bad.  Lots of teams draft bad.   We do FA poorly.  We do trades poorly.  We hire coaches poorly.   And we have delayed rebuilding properly since Ron/Cam left.  

 

Dont lump Ron in with Cam. Ron had next to nothing to do with our success, actually hurt it in some cases.

It is a QB driven league and ours sucks atm, either he continues to suck this season or he magically turns it around. None of these big name guys is going to make any difference if our QB is still the worst starter in the league.