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I think it depends on what our opponent does. We need to play our starters as long as theirs are playing. 

I dont think it does a whole lot of good for our starters to whip up on their backups. 

TE says lost N/A, Does he not realize we lost THE Ian Thomas?

46 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

 

I rechecked my roster- 5 LBs

You have believe the top three are chalk. Then ST value comes into play, so early edge to Rhattigan.

 

So that leaves ONE spot between Wooten, Cherulus, Bam, or Tuasivi Nomura. If anyone can prove to staff ST value, maybe knock off Rhattigan to cut/PS.

 

This is perfectly "fine" for this team at this stage. Yes it could use starter level talent, but so could other spots as well. Other teams have this same layout, its not a bad spot. They have been training Cherulus for three years, Wooten flashed some after injuries killed the group, and both UDFAs got nice guarantees. Best man wins!

 

I will say this- During the draft I would have MUCH rather they used the 4th RB pick on LB Or even the 6th round horn pick, but I didn't make the Panthers board. 

Look if all, I mean all goes right.....{hold/brace your ribs}.... And Panthers make a run in the playoffs. The 2026 sets up GREAT for the draft provided they are in the late 20s- LB, safety, RT(?), TE, and C. Those are prime spots in the 20s, 50s, and 80s. Now I need to wake up.....  

It is what is is, Bryce better win enough games for us to be picking in that range or we are probably looking at QBs. 

Panthers/Bills

Panthers Win, Shaqs worst nightmare comes true. 

Seriously though, we arent sniffing a super bowl unless these rookies are the GOATs

Just now, Basbear said:

Yea....no....doesnt do it for me. 

Just now, Basbear said:

 

 

Your wife has great taste... Believe it of not Im the biggest male Swiftee around. Without breaking my NDA, she also likes the number 13. 100% there's more to her videos/SM/media and there's groups of people involved. My heart may get the better of me so I will end here, Elvis is leaving the building...

 

Wtf is supposed to be so hot about that, I'm missing something. 

5 hours ago, t96 said:

Of course, I agree. Gamble did it way longer here. If Bradberry played at that level here for as long as Gamble it'd be closer. Bradberry actually has had a pretty under the radar career post-Carolina too. Many will remember the game-ending hold in the Super Bowl but the dude did have a pro bowl season and another 2nd team all pro season after leaving. Gamble (outrageously) never even made a pro bowl.

Bradberry just was a solid corner, but he did not want to be here so I can't feel the same for him as Norman and Gamble. 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Gamble is the best CB we ever had. Norman's 2015 season was the best single season by a DB we've ever had but overall Gamble's career here > J-No's career here.

I can agree with that. I loved Gamble. 

4 hours ago, t96 said:

 

 

 

I was as big of a fan of Josh as anyone and was pissed about that situation then and still am today. But Bradberry was also a legit #1 corner for a while here, not as flashy as Josh or as mentioned before in this thread not at the level of Josh's peak, but he was more consistent and just a quiet stud. Like Gamble was. Was just correcting the post from before about how the draft was completely wasted trying to replace him, which is a notion I just disagree with. Bradberry was a great pick and legit #1 corner. As I already posted, the rest of the draft was an absolute disaster but we did come away with a Josh replacement. And yeah it should've been both but I'm just evaluating the moves after the Josh fiasco.

 

Also worth noting we did have Bene who was coming off 2 incredible seasons before breaking his leg late in 2015. I don't think anyone expected him to fall off nearly as much as he did following that injury. If he had gotten back to that level of play, Bradberry on the outside with him in the slot would be a decent pair to bolster a corner group. Those 2 plus a veteran outside CB signing after the Josh fiasco would've been a reasonably good group. But Bene couldn't get his conditioning back and sucked and DG was confident in 3 rookies which was dumb as hell.

I'd put Gamble on a higher tier than Bradberry as well, but I understand what you are saying. 

1 hour ago, Coheed said:

Norman had the better peak but bradberry was more consistent over a longer period 

We really only got to see Norman in our system for 1 and a half seasons. He could have been elite for a couple more seasons if given the chance imo.

Bradberry was only good. 

Would have been nice to have Norman and Bradberry together. 

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

Bradberry was a great pick and worthy replacement. Rest of that draft was ass though

Bradberry was never on 2015 Josh Normans level. He was a decent corner, but not a replacement. His ball skills were ass, Norman erased half of the field in 2015

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'll always despise Dave Gettleman for letting his ego get in the way of smart football business on that one. That fiasco absolutely sucked the air out of that locker room and pretty much tanked that season before it started.

Stupid fuger. Im not going to pay you, ill just flat out release you and waste the draft trying and failing to replace you. 

I thought the poo was a joke when the news broke he had rescinded the tag. 

3 hours ago, Captain Morgan said:

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Josh Norman here, and caught up with Jaycee Horn during stretch. Horn looks like he’s getting a vet day/load management break.

Love Josh Norman, one of my favorite Panthers. Glad to see him at camp.

Good for Shaq. He gets to play for a contender before his career is over. 

Hopefully this is their year. 

1 hour ago, Gapanthersfan said:

I take the T Mac, Horn Jr,  and Renfrow additions as a direct shot over the bow when discussing XL.

1 year of dropsies and he finds himself automatically downgraded to WR2, at best, with the t Mac selection. I really hope he understands the gravity of this. 

Barring unforeseen circumstances, T Mac will play all but a handful of snaps at WR1. Thielen will be on the field on all third downs, at least. guarantee. Coker will get a ton of snaps. He is just too good to be parked on the bench. JHJ will make the final 53. They will like him returning punts and kicks. He’s has good hands and elite game speed. 

Dan still can’t bring himself to watch the SB from 22 years ago. How well do y’all think XL’s 3 drops on the final drive of the Eagles game went over?

Dan is as serious as a heart attack when it comes to winning and losing. I don’t see him waiting patiently with developing XL if he is killing drives and/or costing the team games. Look no further than Ginn’s career to see what happens to first rounders with suspect hands. 

I’m crazy, yes, but I do think that if Coker comes on, T Mac is who we hope he is and XL has another year of dropsies, he may end up as trade bait. Coker is going to continue to up his already impressive game. I don’t think anyone will argue that. He has a chip. JHJ has a chip. Thielen is Mr first down. XL better show growth. 

I just don’t see Dan as the type who is patient with projects. 

For me I would rather see Tmac, XL, Coker, JT as the top 4 with Thielen not relied on as much as this is probably his last season.  He is basically a catch the ball fall down type of guy which contradicts with Bryces playstyle of distributing to allow YAC. 

We should have enough WR talent to keep him on limited snaps. 

Kraken was a beast for a 6th rounder, too bad he is also bat poo crazy

I dont see the point for either side really....

Rodgers is not good enough in his current state to win them anything. He is already a HoF QB so dont see the reason for him ether....

Will he really be any better for them than Wuss was last season? 

Dont really care because fug the steelers, but they could have just started whatever poo QB and picked high next season in a QB draft. 

Fug them picks

8 hours ago, Butterflyj30 said:

Gruden talks about the Panthers at 6:48 he says when he thinks of Carolina he thinks of Nascar

 

 

I call bullshit, double trouble led to his firing in Tampa, never liked Gruden. 

9 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I think you have the Panthers confused and on the same talent level as those 2 teams. And no, neither are contenders to win it this season either. Even with all their talent the cannot win it all nor contend on a regular basis. Keep dreaming though.

Keep thinking that, the bills are definitely contenders, they will win 10+ games and be in the playoffs, dont know how much more of a contender you can be. Bengals are more of a dark horse. 

Will they make the SB? Who knows but they will be in the mix. 

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

You're dreaming. All 3 of those qb's need a complete team. Allen and Burrow cannot get their teams over the hump by themselves as has been proven.  So this is a fantasy that every fan clings to. "If we only had this guy or that guy we would be SB contenders", it takes more than just a top 5 qb to be a contender. It always has.

 

 

The bills have been contenders for years they just haven't gotten over the hump, the bengals were just recently in the super bowl. 

I think you have SB winners and SB contenders confused

Just now, MHS831 said:

The position that still bothers me is OT.  Moton's knee means BC or Nijman play RT. (Or Cade Mays--people don't realize this, but he played some T in college, is 6'5" and has over 34 inch arms. 

Ok, back to safety.  I think we are set until camp reveals more.

I think RT will be stronger than FS even if Moton goes down 

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

I would generally disagree. You see a lot more load management than previously but that is because being healthy in the playoffs is such a key factor. Different philosophies in that regard than previous generations. 

Baseball really doesn't matter until at least halfway through the season. I am not gonna say they don't play hard but the physical demands are infinitesimal in the MLB in comparison to basically any other major pro sport. 

People dislike all the shooting these days but that's a direct correlation with how much the overall skill level of the average NBA player has drastically risen over the past 15ish years. There are other aggravating factors, certainly, but that is the biggest one in terms of playing style differences. So many of the guys from the 80's and 90's wouldn't even be able to play in the modern NBA at all.

The biggest problem the NBA has with the American market(they are the only US sport that has any real international appeal or interest, minus the NHL) is that they are so steadily corrupt and fix the systems against the small market teams. Well, you eventually lose a big chunk of the league viewership/potential viewership in the process. Take the very obviously fixed NBA draft lotteries.

Superstar and upper tier star players rarely want to play for small market teams, nor can they usually afford to pay them. So how do you expect them to possibly compete in that environment?

Reggie Miller is still 6th all time in 3s made and never won poo playing in the 90s.

All this 3 point shooting bullshit was not flying in the 90s game. The NBA is a joke now.  

This goes to show you don't have to be a prick because you have money. 

Situations can change quickly. 

Some of you guys on here should pay attention as well 

Just now, Gapanthersfan said:

Barkley? He literally drug the Eagles offense to the SB. 

Without Hurts he doesn't have that kind of year and their OL is a monster, Barkley did diddly squat for the giants.