Proudiddy

I think it’s worth noting that Les was able to coin “fug those picks” AFTER trading away a former #1 overall QB for their current franchise QB because the one they drafted wasn’t gonna get them there. i think that’s relevant to our situation because they identified the QB they drafted didn’t work for them and cut bait and moved on.

I’d be comfortable with a 4 year deal, IF they made the trade.

Loved what I saw of him at Virginia. A much better player to have on the QB depth chart who actually has the physical tools and ability to develop over time. Dare I say, even exciting to watch and develop. curious if this has more to do with Dalton’s injury or Plummer’s sucking.

I’ve mentioned Joe Milton and Shadeur a ton the last few weeks as guys we could’ve had for little cost, but I also want to mention Milroe was also a very viable option I was interested in. I’m pretty sure I posted it somewhere here. I had read some stuff from sources I trust that a lot of scouts were saying they felt his only real concern was accuracy and that they felt the causes were fixable, and outside of that, he was the most talented QB in this draft, or something along those lines. again, it’s why I get pissed off with all the fluff pieces our organization pushes out for certain player because they focus so much on coddling players rather than forcing them to compete. I honestly feel us not bringing in any competition is two fold, 1) Tepper isn’t ready to admit he made the biggest mistake in #1 overall pick history and 2) They don’t want to hurt Bryce’s feelings or confidence in the hopes that he can be salvaged. Both are horrible reasons to sit two years with Dalton and Plummer behind him and do nothing to provide a contingency plan or competition.

Am I wrong or did I read somewhere before he wanted 31M per?

While I agree with your overall sentiment, with our recent draft history, if it only cost a 3rd rounder, I wouldn’t miss it for what we’re getting in a known commodity in Hendrickson.

I mean, a lot of pass rushers remain effective through their mid-late 30s. The age doesn’t concern me as much as the fit and the timing.

I obviously would be excited to add such a proven, productive player, but it just doesn’t make sense for where we are.

Got a feeling it’s because the Hendrickson cost is significantly cheaper.

Really love and appreciate all you do for the board, Icege. just wanted to piggyback off a few things you said here. I trust your judgment of what you see, especially with your access to the all-22, whereas I just have the love looks to rely on. as far as Wallace, I said it yesterday in the game thread - that was not an encouraging showing. Yes, he is around the ball/play quite often, but at least twice yesterday, he was in the correct spot but got bulldozed at the point of contact for additional yardage, and I mean like 2 to 3 yards or more each. Ever since Tepper has taken over, there seems to be much more of a concerted effort by the organization to hype up certain guys, which is why I think people got fed up with the panthers bot. It doesn’t feel genuine. Sometimes it feels like a cover-up for mistakes and then as fans, we feel insulted. Like why not just give it to us straight? So, I say all of that to say, he has received a lot of hype from the organization, and yes, he does some things well, but it also feels like he has some glaring weaknesses and stuff like that point of contact thing I noticed yesterday - it feels like he’s being thrust into a position he might not be ready for. And in a lot of instances with this Tepper regime, I fear that’s often the case, but the organization tries to gloss over it with fluff instead of just making sound football decisions and adjustments. I think the fluff pisses people, me included, off. I also think it has that affect because when what we see is different from what they’re telling us to see, how can we ever trust that you’ll make sound decisions and get the ship righted? Idk, I’m rambling a little, but just something I noticed. Again, Wallace has some great attributes, but he also is struggling in some obvious places and I am not sure he is ready for the role he is being placed in. I feel like with this offensive lineup, any competent QB would easily be moving the ball down the field. That’s why yesterday was so disappointing and I don’t think you can call any reaction to it an “over” reaction. What Bryce did yesterday looked like that first year and a half all over again. The entirety of those two series looked so dysfunctional and discouraging that I honestly had forgot about the “free play” throw. That free play might have been the most damning thing of all and it didn’t even count. Bryce could’ve chucked it as far downfield as he wanted. The fact the receiver slowed down (from what I remember) and Bryce still underthrew it straight to a defender, instead of them both recognizing, “hey let’s go for the gusto!” All while Bryce got little boy’d upon throwing it. It was just a shaking-my-head moment. And again, the miscommunications, the running around with no real objective, the poor ball placement combined with the drops… it was all bad. And as I’ve stated before, my fear has been that Bryce would regress back to the mean. As bad as his first year and a half was, that isn’t just some unfortunate coincidence. That’s the baseline. His end of season stretch last year was the exception, and my fear has been that he would be unable to maintain that. Yesterday looked like he isn’t. And honestly, yesterday also again reminded me of why I never wanted us to draft him in the worst ways because we are dissecting whether certain balls should be caught depending on where they were placed in relation to direction and position of defenders, and we are doing that because Bryce is so lacking in physical ability at the most important position in the game that it requires an almost razor thin margin of error for everyone around him. It’s unfair to the supporting cast, imo. A franchise QB is suppose to elevate the play of all of the players around them, not vice versa. Just Bryce’s presence on the field requires the other 10 guys to almost be perfect every play because he can’t compensate for their mistakes. I just think yesterday left such a bad taste in everyone’s mouth because it was a stark reminder of all of that. Bryce lacks so much that it requires damn near perfection of everyone else for the offense to look not even great, but functional. We’ll see how this season goes, and I’m hoping for the best, but I was ready to bail on the Bryce project after year 1, because again, I never wanted to draft him in the first place and the early returns coincided with that. But if he can’t look functional with this supporting cast??? Man… that is going to be inexplicably frustrating.

But again, I keep saying it, Joe Milton and Shadeur were there for the taking late in the draft. Now Milton might be taking over the job in Dallas if Dak falters. Smh… On the bright side, pretty much any QB cut will be better than who we have.

Damn. I knew I felt the way I felt for a reason, and I remember stats showing he was having THE worst stretch of football of any QB that has ever played at one point, but these just further illuminate how bad it was. IIRC, the story is that Reich wanted Stroud and Tepper wanted Bryce. If that is true, I certainly hope Bryce was Tepper’s last foray into FO decisions. He should be ashamed. It’s also why I feel they’re still doing all of this due diligence and weapon adding where most teams would’ve cut their losses after last year. I still believe what we already saw that first year and a half is mostly what Bryce is. But because we are where we are now, I have to hope he can be better… but we have really painted ourselves into a corner. The draft capital, DJ, the other QBs we could’ve taken… poo set us back for damn near 5 years.

Still not sure why he was even given a roster spot to begin with, let alone that he’s still here a year later.

A 5’11” QB who can run and throw the ball almost 70 yards? Hell yeah, brother. Sign me up.

TBH, I’m in the minority, but I don’t think he should’ve been given this season. This QB class of 2025 was not great, but Sanders would’ve been an ideal developmental QB to push Bryce, and in the case that he flops again (which I expect), he could’ve stepped in and probably done really well as a rookie.

Idk, from what I’ve seen, I like his hands and ability to disengage. He’s also shown great pursuit and hustle. Hard to gauge much on the pass rush bc our depth is so shitty the ball is getting out fast. But from the strengths he is displaying, I think he’s a good player.

You would be surprised.

I know I’m a sucker for bloodlines, but I objectively like Swilling.

Yeah, need Plummer to come down with that explosive diarrhea. I’ve seen enough.

And another camp hero goes down. Morale +100.

I could see Etienne jumping Dowdle on the depth chart.

Good throw by Plummer, great catch by Tremayne.

People hated on me, but I like PJ. Outside of Cam, he was the best QB on our roster during his time here.

Etienne is a fuging unit. too bad our OL depth is ass. Another holding call negates Etienne’s work. Love his suddenness though.

I don’t wish injury on anyone, but at this point, my hope is Plummer gets a vicious case of diarrhea so we can see who our emergency QB is. Now that will be entertaining! (And more productive)