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6 hours ago, BrianS said:

Said it in another thread, I'll say it here.

You have to ask yourself two questions:  Is there anything PJ can do that Cam cannot? . . . . Is there anything PJ does better than Cam?  If you answer no to both those questions you start Cam and don't look back.

yeah. pj can read defenses a little better hence all the audibles. and his arm is fresh. 

4 hours ago, TF330 said:

yeah but the difference is Cam was signed two days previously. PJ has been in this offense for two full years and knows the entire playbook and we can't can't trust our starting qb to throw for more than 10 yards on 29 passes? time for Cam to take the reigns 

 

I'm sure it'll be 70% cam 30% pj or something like that as ease cam in

its not trust with pj. its politics. pj didnt play because of teddy and sam's contracts. rhule knew pj was better, but because of politics and status quo, pj had to wait. and we lost because because of that. and no, i don't think cam should take the reigns, his arm is very limited. 2 qb system is the way to go.

7 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I'm glad PJ didn't completely implode like Darnold did, but at some point we have to expect actually good QB play from a starter, heh.  PJ completed 1 pass beyond 10 yards (that traveled in the air more than 10 yards), added to his unimpressive interception total, and had lots of errant throws.  Fine if he's our back up, but we really need Cam up to speed asap to keep this momentum rolling IMO.

yeah it was 10 yards because thats the play that  was called. just like the design play that was created for cam to score.

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean, if PJ was going to implode the team in a Sam like manner....well, the opporunity was there.   Yet, the O kept putting Cam on the goaline for the glory.  Even Cam referenced the reality of that.

PJ is a backup QB that has done his job twice for us.  He doesn't suck if you acknowledge the job he actually has.  He is a backup QB.  He looks the part.  

 

Listen, people are gonna dislike PJ walker regardless. Truth is PJ walker helped win this game, but cam is getting the credit. I get it, its cam, the emotion. But there is no use in trying to explain PJ walker to these people. 

#PJWALKER2021 #CAMANDPJALLTHEWAY

On 11/2/2021 at 11:17 PM, BurnNChinn said:

What I know is that you get to see your boy PJ start that u was so excited to see. Then you will see why he shouldn’t be in the nfl.

because we all know its bout proving pj walker fans wrong instead of winning right?

4 hours ago, CRA said:

You clearly don’t see what is at the heart of my PJ talk. 

and you clearly close your eyes when I also bluntly type out that I want PJ to start…so that Rhule will be forced to move on from him and can no longer get by with wasting the roster spot with his Temple bud. 

Sam Darnold is literally horrible.  He is a PJ tier QB.  Read that carefully.   And tell me what it says about PJ lol

but anyway, back to facts.  #1 Panther QB of all time ranked by win %? PJ Walker. 
 

 

 

anytime you use logic with pj walker, they think your a superfan. also, im still trying to figure out how everyone in this thread thinks the panthers played bad against the lions when the defense had a shutout game? like how?

6 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

eh.    Sam's arm is eons better than PJs.  

^^^^ Otherwise, how does he OVERTHROW his receivers on Deep passes?

 

same way same darnold does. which is why brady doesn't have same go downfield very often, which is why robby anderson hasn't played to his talent level, robby is a certified deep threat, so is dj moore.

18 minutes ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Don't even know you, dude. Pulling the race card won't get you very far here. Some people see more than skin color, lil fella. That's all I'll say on the matter. @rayzor pinned a post to the top of this forum. Maybe you should read it. 

race card is only used by people who dont think racism exists.

don't expose yourself. and yes, the nfl has always had a race problem. 

ask eric bienammy.

11 hours ago, Kuhndog94 said:

Nah. Not really. And that's a really strange place to take my comment. Wilson simply hasn't earned that right in the eyes of the Seahawks. If the front office and the coaching staff doesn't want him to be involved, then he doesn't need to be.  I didn't like Watson trying to have veto power in coaching decisions, either. How would that affect us if he was traded here? Too much control. I didn't really care for Manning doing it either, but if your coaches want you to have a say, then you have a say. If they don't, they don't. And in Wilson's case, they don't. 

The only QB I'd personally give veto power is Brady and thats because he's the fugin GOAT. 

Now you can ask for opinions, but wanting veto power on decisions is a little much for anyone not named Brady and potentially Mahomes if he maintains his current pace (barring his slump this year).

 

 

russell wilson has been carrying that franchise since 2015 at the earliest. pete carroll just admitted that he would not still be in seattle if it wasn't for wilson. russell wilson has more than earned a right to make decisions. you and everyone only act like this when its black qbs. 

11 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Russell has a ring.

I don't have an issue with allowing QBs to have express their ideas to management.  However, at the end of the day it is management's job to manage and a coaches job to coach.  

Russell, Rodgers and Watson have made it clear they want more than to just express themselves, they want control in management/coaching decisions. 

Not interested in any of them for that reason alone.

rodgers has had control, brees, brady.

white qbs get control, black qbs get told to be humble, shut up and play.

facts.

11 hours ago, 4Corners said:

Wisconsin legend Russell Wilson is a very good QB - but there isn’t a bigger fraud or cornier dude in the league. 
 

eh yo Seattle we gotta deal …one of the cringiest videos I’ve seen. 

why is he a fraud? i hear people say it, nobody has made a solid point yet.

21 hours ago, Fox007 said:

No he doesn't you just don't bother to pay attention to whats going on.

People gonna act like it would matter if PJ went in the point is/was it won't. He's worse than Darnold and Darnold is actually a threat to score. That threat is nearly the same as him turning it over but it's at least a threat to score TDs. When cats start talking about put the back up in they done lost the plot. So they will rightfully be memed out.

naw. because they acted this way before sam darnold came into the picture. its weird.

1 hour ago, Cuttinedge said:

I’m sure practicing with the ones would help build chemistry but it isn’t gonna magically turn him into joe Montana. He’s skipping passes 5 yards short and hitting cheerleaders on the sideline. He’s so inaccurate it’s embarrassing 

nobody is gonna be joe montana lol. chemistry would definitely help. i just think pj walker really bothers people, why? i don't know, so naturally everyone is harder on him. but just like sam, the oline didn't allow pj walker to do much. at first, everybody blamed the oline and now all of a sudden that criticism is gone because its pj? like i said, until pj walker gets starter treatment, starter reps in practice, that is when i will judge him. 

5 hours ago, Silent Majority said:

LOL @ certain types that are giving PJ poo, like he was the one you all were dick riding the first 3 games of the season. Stick to the topic at hand yall boy SD is open booty cheeks.

its obvious who knows football and who doesn't.

its funny how people switch up huh?

48 minutes ago, Cuttinedge said:

Won’t matter he isn’t nfl backup  qb material. Much less a starter.

He was like the wild thing pitcher in that movie ..He hit everything  but the dam mascot today. I don’t think a week with the starters is gonna all of a sudden make him accurate 

definitely matters, backups don't get many reps with anybody. so to throw someone in who has very little practice reps, no chemistry all so you can "scare" sam darnold, its silly to think they would do an amazing job. keep pj walker out unless they are gonna take him seriously. that means full reps, with the ones etc. 

this whole wait until the last minute when the game is over and throw pj walker in the line of fire for no reason thing that matt rhule has going on, has got to stop. rhule has been doing that since last season.

11 hours ago, CRA said:

Sam is in the PJ tier of QBs.  That’s what Sam is.   He just happened to be a high draft pick.  And people haven’t gotten over that somehow 

Basically. 

14 hours ago, Varking said:

If you’re talking about Walker, and comparing him to Teddy or Darnold, unfortunately the truth is both have shown more in the NFL than PJ Walker. PJ, even for free, cannot do the same as Teddy or Darnold and it’s not close really. What is he at? 1 TD to 5 INT in his career? 
 

The gap is smaller between what you and Walker can do than the gap between Walker and Teddy/Sam. 

I dont know what else to say. I disagree. Its. Waste of money, darnold is a waste of money. Should have given Grier or walker a chance.

11 hours ago, glenwo2 said:

OR draft O-Line early and often, find a steady journeyman QB but start Sam to see if he gets better with a revamped (and better) O-Line or he still falls flat on his face.   If he does the latter, you start the Journeyman QB and never look back.  

Why should the panthers  get a journey qb do what a backup can do for free? A journey QB is gonna cost at least 10 million, unnecessary money spent. 

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

It's a plus, as long as they aren't ill advised decisions. Remember this is a guy that has 1 TD and 5 INT's in his career. That doesn't indicate he is going to be a substantial upgrade from Darnold. Quite the opposite.

Even though this is Darnold's worst season of his career, his TO/possession rate is 3.6% in 2021. PJ Walker's career rate is 8.9%. That doesn't solve the problem we are having.

 pj walker hasn't played long enough to determine anything, it won't be until sam gets hurt or something that anybody will really know. 

20 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

The line is really bad but it gives enough time to make good decisions. What we need is a QB who is capable of running the offense and making those good decisions.

Darnold is obviously not that guy but PJ wasn't great against the Lions. He was gunning balls into tight spots, which he sometimes got away with and sometimes didn't. Overall, I didn't see that he was much of a different gunslinger than Darnold.

 being able to completing passes into tight windows is a plus.

59 minutes ago, TDGone said:

Benched who ?

 reggie bonnafon.

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

PJ is not a Cam-level athlete or anywhere even close...

our defense is so good, he really doesn't have to be. just enough to evade pressure oline wise when he needs to. cause honestly our oline isn't really that bad.

12 hours ago, Catsfan69 said:

Did Darnold not have a 30yd scramble in crunch time during the comeback?

on average i mean. we seen what happens when darnold receives pressure. he's a little athletic, but not very much. the type of athletic im talking about is that wilson/cam level of athleticism, which is what is needed for this oline.

13 hours ago, hepcat said:

problem is he can't stay healthy. has a good game or two then is out for the season again

i dont even believe he was hurt. i believe they benched him because of reasons unknown.