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22 hours ago, GOAT said:

no game day thread, people already giving up on the team.

if that ain't a measuring stick for where this fan base is with this product idk what is...

if it's not 21-0 by half, we might be discussing selling the team this weekend.

GOAT you were close. I am starting to think we should start Dalton against the Falcons and let Bryce sit for the game. It might give us a chance to be in the game by Half Time.

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Preseason One is waaaayyy too early to be jumping to those kind of conclusions.

Just something I read on the net if we had traded Burns to the Rams last year. I am not worried about Young as QB. The defense yes but Young no. More than likely team just getting use to the 34 defense but it seems we are weak with the run. Since we didn't have Burns today the pass rush was not there if he had been.

2 minutes ago, NAS said:

I didn’t see him waiting too long on any of his snaps, did you?  

I thought he did a few times when he got sacked or rushed. The OLine did not pick up the slack to make success.

2 minutes ago, csx said:

Alabama line wasn't anything special for Bryce. Most of his signatures plays and his signature trait is making chicken salad out of chicken poo

He will have to learn he can't wait as long as he did in college, but that takes time in the NFL. Howell is ;learning that now in Washington.

3 minutes ago, NAS said:

Thanks for the correction. I do think we need to spend some of our cap space in the offseason on a guard or tackle (even if it’s for depth) 

I would hate loosing Burns but it might be time to trade him, for a 1st next year. We can always find a pass rusher to fill his shoes in the draft or FA. Lets hope he has a good season so we can have some options for next year.

Just now, FutureDynasty said:

Yes, it's called the preseason.

I know it is preseason. Just seemed we played too bland. I wasn't expecting to see the play book fully open.

34 minutes ago, CLG said:

Looked calm and you see the dog in him when he’s still tracking the play after being hit from the ground. 
 

Bryce is really PC, the football field looks like one of the places he lets go and embraces his aggression. He looked pissed after the 2nd or 3rd drive and stayed tuned in along Josh McCown throughout the game. I don’t watch college football so forgive me if those of you that have seen him more would say otherwise.

Being a Alabama product he had all the time in the world to throw in college. Time to wait for his receivers to get open. It is going to take time for the game to slow down for him. maybe next year he will be what we thought he can be. It was the defense that worries me. Very inconsistent with the running game and passing.

2 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Lack of future first rounder*. We’re only lacking one. 

How many did we lose for this trade up. I thought it was only next years first and a 2nd the following year.

38 minutes ago, NAS said:

Bryce Young passed the eye test. He looked like a vet with his pocket presence and making quick decisions despite  playing behind a terrible OL.  

I know it’s only preseason but when you know you know.  Just like we know now that Corral doesn’t have it to even be a backup.

Was there  a reason we were playing so vanilla today. Both on Defense and Offense. Or were the jets just a better team today. 

Did miss reading anything on the backup QB's. Been wondering how Corral is doing with missing last year.

17 hours ago, SOJA said:

Been a huge fan since I was a kid and have wanted to go to training camp since 07, due to work and various other commitments I have never been able to. My wife and I moved to Charlotte last month and had the time to go so I made the trip down 85. 

First thing is if you're planning on going bring water/electrolyte beverages of your choice, sunscreen and a nice hat. The hill is directly in the sun. I didn't do autographs but they have a new section set up for children which I think is great.

Here are my observations from today's practice 

- A cowboys fan who was a caricature of a cowboys fan was jawing with Shaq and Luvu before practice. This guy, I poo you not, was wearing a two tone Sean Lee jersey, cowboys cowboy hat, had a cowboys umbrella and completed the outfit with jorts. He was like SCPanther wrote him up in one of his famous pregame posts. 

- Saunders was again either the first player out or one of the first. Bryce came jogging onto the field not long after. Overall Saunders is a very smooth athlete. 

- Jaycee and Donte are good friends. They joked around and danced during stretches and were basically at either other's hip the whole practice. 

- Donte looked as springy as a person possibly could after an achilles tear, remarkable because that injury can derail a career, particularly for a guy whose game is based on speed. We will see how he looks once the real football starts, but so far so good. 

- Jaycee stands out amongst the other CBs immediately for his size alone. He's just on a different level physically than other NFL caliber CBs.

- Chinn warmed up with and spent most of his time with the CB unit during the beginning of practice. He would intermittently do stuff with the safeties but he spent a lot of time around the corners. I think they are going to use him as a big NB. As far as I could tell he didn't spend any time with the LBs.

- Burns, just like Jaycee, immediately stands out for his physical presence. He's taller and more built than any other edge on the team. Before practice he was getting individual attention from a coach I didn't recognize on how to pass defend a receiver. 

- I got a pretty good look at the edge positional drills as they were practicing close to the hill. Burns is just a phenomenal athlete. He performs each drill with grace, ease and finishes with power. Yetur looked pretty good in the drills as well. 

- The coaches are invested in DJ Johnson, before practice a coach worked with him individually on a sled. 

- Duce Staley continued his loud trash talking during stretches and I'm sure continued the rest of practice though he was further away from me. He's hilarious. 

- The 11 on 11 and 7 on 7 drills took place on the far field today (rookie mistake on my part) so it was harder for me to see everything but in general: Bryce looks phenomenally poised for a rookie. He is going to earn a reputation for having Ice in his veins. The practice started very well for the offense as Bryce was slinging short to intermediate routes and a collection of WRs were making plays. 

- Jonathan Mingo made a nice snag over the middle with the 1s

- Chuba had a really nice RAC that initially I thought was Miles Saunders from afar, hopefully he continues to develop this year. 

- The defense however, as I'm sure you have seen by now, had a great day. It started on an errant throw which I think was a miscommunication or misread by Bryce as he threw it directly to CJ Henderson who looked shocked at first to have the ball hit in the chest. To CJ's credit however, he caught it and would have scored a pick six in a real game. 

- Dalton also had a rough day and threw two picks. The first appeared to be a tipped ball in which Brandon Smith made a great play and would have housed it in a real game. The second pick was more difficult to see who made the play. 

- Bryce took a couple "sacks" during practice and missed on a few deep balls. 

- After practice Bryce stayed awhile throwing with Mingo working on some posts. Terrance Marshall staid on the field to catch some more balls as well. 

- Overall I left very reassured by Bryce most importantly he seems to have 'it'. I think he is remarkably poised for a rookie and am excited to know that he is only going to get better from here. I still think that edge across Burns may be an issue. I think this WR corps will be better than people expect by committee. 

- Finally for you Matt Corral fans out there he didn't look bad today but you can just tell he doesn't have nearly the poise Bryce has, I wouldn't be surprised if he has a poor preseason but am hopeful I'm wrong. 

Nice Post and I and really like it but I am biting the tongue till I see the team actually play someone and if we can get teams off the field on 3rd down. It was a bummer to watch the defense play 1st and 2nd down really well to be let down by the other team wanting it more than our defense did on 3rd down. I hope our new DC instills this mindset into them this coming year.

4 hours ago, Varking said:

Depends on what you want out of your defensive tackle. Take up space, eat blockers and make a play against the run? He’s ideal. Want him to sack the QB? You can’t ignore his lack of sacks and thus he’s almost through his rookie contract and has how many sacks in his career?

He wasn't a great sacking DT in college either. He is just a run stuffer.

10 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Frank already making better decisons than Rhule. This guy had one of the worst attitudes in Jacksonville and was utter garbage with us.  

He did have his moments. So does that mean he won't be with us when training camp starts.

39 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

I'm trying to mentally prepare myself to accept Bryce. 

Picking such a tiny QB just makes me nervous. Not doubting his skill or intelligence I just hope he can stay healthy.

The only pick I'd truly be upset with is Will Levis.

I'd love Stroud, I'm okay/fine with Bryce or AR. But it really should not be Levis for any reason. 

I got the same feeling who it is, but Stroud will be the better QB over the long haul.

38 minutes ago, TheWiz said:

At this point... the only thing that can ruin this for me is us taking Will Levis. I trust this coaching staff.

Both will be good but who will be the great QB of this draft and I have a hunch it is not the one we will pick.

On 2/21/2023 at 1:37 PM, raleigh-panther said:

Mods. I wasn’t sure where to put this so pls merge if appropriate 

Per Ryan Fowler on tweeter 

Tennessee QB Hendon Hooker has met extensively with the Raiders, Panthers, Giants, Saints, and Cowboys during the pre-draft process, per source.

The dual-threat talent is expected be healthy and ready for training camp after suffering a torn ACL in Nov.

I don't mind Hooker and it would fit nicey with shoring up the left side of the OL. "

In Daniel Jeremiah's mock draft 2.0 on NFL.com, he has the Carolina Panthers staying put at No. 9 and selecting Northwestern offensive tackle Peter Skoronski. 

"For this mock, I’m assuming the Panthers don't trade up to land a quarterback and instead go the veteran route at the position. Skoronski can slide inside to play guard in Carolina, teaming up with Ikem Ekwonu to give the Panthers two building blocks for the offensive line. New head coach Frank Reich knows the impact of investing heavily in the line of scrimmage, having spent time on the Eagles’ staff before he left for Indianapolis." If he is there or one of the other top OLinemen to go with Ekwonu.

If we can't draft Stroud or Young we should wait to a lower round to get a QB. Most of the next selection of QB's are going to need a year watching and learning anyways, so why waste a 1st round pick on them when a better prospect for the OLine or DLine will be available. I am not a fan of Sam or Matt, but wasn't Matt chosen to be the next QB last year. So you are casting him aside before he has shown us anything or worked with Frank. OLine and DLine should be first before drafting the next franchise QB. Sam wasn't great but he was better than the year before when the Oline sucked in 2021 season. We are transitioning from the 4-3 to 3-4 defensive this year. We need the type of defensive players that will do better in a 3-4 defense than what we have been selecting for the 4-3. 

4 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

Don’t care how many picks a team has.

In the current nfl, with rules geared to offense, if they don’t have a starting qb, they have zero

you can believe in the Darnold and Corral disaster if you wish but I want better 

we are in a position to get better at QB.    Go get it 

 

 

I don't believe in those after Young or Stroud is the problem. As I understand it next years QBs are better than the class this year. I see Levis as another Mayfield an Richard as a younger cam.

Hate it. Build up the Oline and Defensive line with the 4 pics we have in the first 3 rounds. I know San Fran 2rd, 3rd and 4th will be like a top 3rd and 4th and 5th round picks but that is 7 picks with the top pick in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounds we can have. We can get some fine players to build depth on the team that we need. Remember we invested a 3rd round pick in Corral last year. No reason to trade up. Give Sam a 2 year deal with the 1st year money guaranteed and look to next year QB for our franchise pick.

2 hours ago, Kick said:

 Mr. Tepper

 Mr. Fitterer 

 Coach Reich 

As a Fans I am pleading with you to give us a Franchise QB and not rejects from other teams to lead the Panthers to a winning season.  Some of the current players (Corners) need to review last year's tape and explain why more effort wasn't put forth.  If that was the best, it wasn't good enough.

"KEEP POUNDING"

 

When we had both Jackson and Horn as starters, we were okay. We can't keep Horn healthy is one problem. Lost after 3rd game his rookie year and then we lost him towards the end last year. Replacements weren't that good, and it killed us getting off the field on 3rd down.

 

 

 

 

Coach Wilks you wil be missed. Best wishes to where you land in the future.

5 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Career rating would have finished 32nd of qualifying QBs this year. Not good. His first four years were pretty terrible. That doesn’t mean I have to ignore what looks like progress. 
 

Y’all can deny it, but I know you know we’d be division champs if Darnold was healthy all year. 

Just saying he looked good last night against Dallas.

31 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Coaching : Steichen (or Frank Reich....it's a coin flip for me)

FA : Re-signing Bozeman, and Foreman (they're both Free Agents, right? If not, I apologize)

Draft : We don't move up, stay put and draft BPA (but not QB) at #9.    They do draft a QB in the later rounds as an afterthought.

Unexpected move : Sam Darnold is re-signed as a backup to Matt Corral who will get his chance finally.

 

Rather see Eric Bieniemy as the next coach and draft Richardson out of Florida in the later rounds as my QB pick. Give Bienimy the chance to improve his throwing ability and give him a year or two to learn since he is has the arm strength and as mobile as Mahomes.

Yes Sam would be a good back up if we had a good QB ready to go next year. Afraid Corral wasn't the best QB in the 3rd round the Panthers could have picked.

18 hours ago, Harbingers said:

I wouldn’t say no… but I still think he’s a career backup. 

nice article. Today we saw old Sam return. He still has happy feet when DL's get around him and really with the O Lines he had in NY and his first season him who could blame him. If his OL can protect him and give him clean pockets, I would say yes for a year or two and just a tad over minimum.

13 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

No way to answer that question since its impossible to know how good they are until they actually play in the NFL.  Personally, I am not sure Stroud or Young will be good NFL qb's, although I would be willing to try if we got a chance to draft them.    I will say that if the guys that make the decision on who to draft decide a college qb is actually good enough to be a legit NFL qb, then we draft them regardless of whether we are picking first or 31st.  

just think that Montana wasn't drafted until the 3rd round. Brady not till the 6th or round. Mahomes wasn't drafted until the 14th pick. Allen was drafted at the 7th pick by Buffalo. So you can get a good QB after the 1st round. Remember Montana was too small to be drafted sooner.

14 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

No way to answer that question since its impossible to know how good they are until they actually play in the NFL.  Personally, I am not sure Stroud or Young will be good NFL qb's, although I would be willing to try if we got a chance to draft them.    I will say that if the guys that make the decision on who to draft decide a college qb is actually good enough to be a legit NFL qb, then we draft them regardless of whether we are picking first or 31st.