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On 5/5/2024 at 1:46 PM, JBloc said:
(4) 300 yd games
225 yd/gm average
20 TDs
And, I know it's a team stat and probably asking a bit much, but 8 wins would have me feeling pretty decent about the situation.
8 wins is a pipe dream. 3 to 5 is more like it.
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On 5/5/2024 at 12:56 PM, PappyMay said:
No reason he shouldn't be better. Upgraded both guard spots and all the new toys. Canales has shown he can get solid results with players at QB most the league had written off as journeyman. Also hoping Leggette/ Johnson can break a few short yard catches loose for big plays which people on the team last year couldn't do. Could help his stats look a little better. I'm not expecting a playoff run, but anything less than 6-7 wins and to show we are moving in the right direction i'll be truly sad. Grab us our lock down CB or Edge of the future picking in the back part of the top 10 is how I imagine this thing goes.
what if he only wins 3 to 5 games. Has 3 to 5 games where we are in the game but lose at the end, improves his footwork, QBR, yards per pass, and learns to escape better than hanging on to the ball as he waits for an open receiver. Would that make you feel better or improving enough to give him another year at QB.
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On 5/5/2024 at 12:35 PM, jfra78 said:
The poll is different than the question. The poll is what we expect him to do, and the question is what would it take for me to have faith in him.
I think he will look better but not great. For me to have faith in him moving forward he would have to look like a number 1 overall pick. Basically we would have to win games because of him and not in spite of him.
How many games or close wins would it take. 3 to 5 wins and maybe 3 to 5 close loses to say we are moving forward. To me I need to see how he works with the OC, improves on his footwork, a QBR better than 33.4%, better than a 5.5 yards per pass, and being able to get the ball out of his hands instead of trying to hang on while his receivers are trying to get open.
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1 hour ago, hepcat said:
Hypothetical offseason question. If the Panthers sat Bryce in 2023 and played Dalton instead, where would the Panthers be going into 2024? One thing is certain, things would be VERY different.
1) Frank Reich doesn’t get fired. Dalton is a veteran and operated Frank’s offense far more effectively in the one game he started than Bryce did. The Panthers likely look a lot more competent early on and Frank doesn’t get fired mid-season.
Caveat - It’s also been quietly mentioned in some media outlets that Frank and the staff preferred to draft CJ Stroud and might have tanked the season intentionally to get fired, all speculation. But the vanilla offensive scheme might have been a coincidence due to lack of talent and competence, or perhaps malicious compliance.
2) The Panthers wouldn’t have been the worst team in the NFL. The defense was fairly good in 2023 despite the fact the offense was the worst in the NFL with Young under center. With a veteran starting at QB, the offense would possess the ball for longer periods of time and could have lead to even better performances from the defense.
3) Scott Fitterer doesn’t get fired. A move I think was needed either way, but if the Panthers resembled anything in the way of competency in 2023, Fitterer doesn’t get the axe especially because they hadn’t seen what Bryce can do on the field yet.
4) David Tepper doesn’t throw a drink at a fan. I think we’re all tired of the owner of this franchise embarrassing the fans with his immature behavior but hey, I have to imagine that his rage wouldn’t have been at level 10 if they hadn’t had the disaster of a season they did in 2023.
5) Bryce has a good 2024? Biggest leap I can make in this speculation but I think if Bryce sat in 2024, and the team makes similar moves to build the offense around him, he would come into a much better situation after having a chance to learn on the bench behind a veteran instead of the situation he was thrust into.
We will never know how this would have played out but it is fun to speculate!
The fans had to have Byrce starting. The only way he could learn the game. When we have seen in the past sometimes sitting a 1st round QB can be just as fruitful as starting him. We saw what Dalton could do with the same line up Byrce had and he came within a whisker of pulling it out.
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12 minutes ago, rayzor said:
i'm just glad it's not another season of rhule or the reich mess. hopefully we got on another boat than the titanic this time.
I am too. Then we can see how good Bryce is really is or how really bad he is. Seems the 2025 QB's aren't a great lot. If we end up in the top 3 we might be able to get a shut down Corner.
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18 hours ago, Jon Snow said:
According to who?
I was quoting anyone. I was just asking if we got any "A" players in this draft. The best I saw were players being graded in the "B or C" range. Just asking a question.
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Did we get any A players from the draft? All I've seen are B and C players. Even our 1st rd draftee was a B-.
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I would like to see the team pick a Cornerback, Wide Receiver, and or an Edge. Doesn't matter what order, More than likely it will be a WR and CB as our 2 2nd Rd choices. With an Edge or TE being the 3rd pick.
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On 4/15/2024 at 6:16 PM, Ricky Prickles said:
Is he pretty good I take it? Dont know anything about him personally. How is his durability?
People say he would be a better at nickel. It is a need but not at 33. If we going to take a CB it should be someone who is better across from Horn. Not a every down CB.
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On 4/14/2024 at 10:28 AM, 45catfan said:
Take out Benson at #39 and Rattler at #101 and it's not THAT bad. Those two picks make it seem horrible. Plug in Legette at #39 and Stinnott at #101, then it doesn't look too shabby.
Although we can use a star Nickel like Stinnott we need a CB first then maybe a nickel. We got killed way too many times on 3rd and middle yardage plays last year which turned into first downs.
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On 4/14/2024 at 11:32 PM, trucpfan said:
I don't know if we should do that if you think about it a little deeper Canales isn't tied to Bryce at all. You build your team the best way you are fit. And nowadays we've seen second year QBs who can't get it done get benched and eventually moved in from rather quickly. We end up in the top 3 next year and Bryce still looks overwhelmed I'm sure we'll be looking towards a young stud.
I agree with this lets grab the best stud available Bryce just has to get it done with much better blocking and better weapons out the ball where it needs to be, just be the Bryce we saw at Bama.
Canales will be looking at the next crop of QB's in case Young fails as he did in year one. I won't say Young will be pulled quickly cause Tepper is going to give him every chance to be the Number 1 QB in Carolina, but if he flops. I see another QB picked next year to give him competition. We also need to see if the new OL additions are going to perform to what we paid them or will we be disappointed again and watch Young running for his life as the walls come crashing in as last year. The first 5 games are going to be interesting.
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On 4/15/2024 at 6:22 PM, Bear Hands said:
Take anything with a grain of salt right now. Just posted this in another thread:
He had that huge interception at the end of the title game.
Some fun notes:
- 2X team captain, was named team MVP for the best defense in the country.
- Described as a player coach and influencer, per the DB coach, he "changed the mindset of everybody on our team"
- Former wide receiver so has the aggressive/ballhawk mentality (this kid doesn't drop INTs)
- 6 INTs, 2 pick sixes last year, 3 picks took back for 70+ yards
- Played 20% outside, 80% slot, had good capabilities blitzing. 5 TFL, 2 sacks
- Only flagged for 1 PI in college (in the title game) covering Polk
Seems like he was a BIG part of that team and its leadership.
Do we need a Nickel or a 2nd CB who can complement Horn. If he is a good Nickel maybe 3rd round.
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47 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:
Turning over the roster to see if Bryce is actually a bust or not while switching coaches leaves you in a situation where once again for the second year in a row we won't really know who is to blame. 2 years with absolutely no baseline to judge anything from
They have no choice since they fired Wright in mid season. Maybe with the new staff in place and at least two years of the same coaching we can see what we have. We will know if Tepper made the wrong choice when the team made the choice to go after Young instead of Stroud. We might have had a win or two more with Stroud last year, but we still wouldn't have had our number 1 pick for this year either.
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On 3/15/2024 at 11:19 PM, Davidson Deac II said:
What the Bears do is irrelevant.
If Young works out, the trade was worth it. If not, it wasn't.
We will have the a first round pick next year. As the saying goes..."SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!" We had a chance and we blew it to keep Burns, and what did it get us. A low performance player for last season and a 2nd and 5th rd picks this year. Tepper gambled and lost.
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21 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:
I agree with all except want to pump the brakes on Burns. Am I correct that he wants 30 million and turned down 27 million? If so is he truly worth that much? If we were talking the top guy in the league or next to top guy in the league I understand but is Burns truly worth what he is wanting?
30 million no he isn't since he didn't play at full speed last year. Give him a 2 or 3 year with an option to talk after year two. Brown is coming up next year is he not.
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2 hours ago, CRA said:
Nope. No thank you. I ain't investing money into someone that makes Jeff Otah seem reliable. That's just a reality. Jaycee Horn is only a dawg in Pantherland. No one else talks about him for good reason. He doesn't play. 3 years in and he frankly has yet to even show his stuff vs a legit good QB/WR tandem because he never is on the field for it.
I'm focused on Brown and Luvu if I am the Panthers. Building up a functional offense.
Denver's offer was pathetic, if they throw in 2nd and 3rd round picks for this year. I take a gamble on it send him packing.
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2 hours ago, ncfan said:
https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-free-agency-5th-year-option-costs-for-2021-1st-round-picks/
have to make the decision by May 2nd
Horns option will cost 11.29 mil
keep in mind. We have roughly 29 mil in Space (probably will open 10 more with restructures etc)
and have Burns+Luuvu as FA.
Can he stay healthy is the question. We never had a full season from him since he has been here.
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On 1/21/2024 at 12:32 AM, Hoenheim said:
How do you think we fix the O-line?
I have no idea what to think about Ikem Ekwonu. He had a good rookie year but had an attrocious season 2. Do you swap him and Christensen? Get a LT in free agency and move Ikey to LG?? Its truly baffling at this point.
Its not realistic to think we could replace everyone but Moton this offseason.
At the very least we are going to need some very serious depth at the interior positions. Corbett and Christensen have gotten injured two season in a row. Having the two starting OGs missing for most of the season and having scrubs play there probably didn't help, but we also so Bradley Boseman have a really bad year as well. I'm willing to say that the only person on the line that had a decent year was Taylor Moton.
This was really REALLY bad year to not have a 1st rounder. I'm thinking we might be best off trading down from the first pick in R2 and picking up another 2nd or 3rd to get more ammo.Summary of contract situations for O lineman:
** Not implying that anyone will be cut, just getting the info on the page:- (LT) Ikem Ekwonu (23) : 7.5 million in 2024 against the cap. Has 2024 and 2025 left on his contract, cutting him would be a hit of - 8.7 million against the cap
- (LG) Brady Christensen (27) : 1.6 million in 2024 against the cap. will be on the last year of his contract in 2024, and could be cut for a cap savings of 1.3 million
- (C) Bradly Boseman (29): 4.0 million in 2024 against the cap. His contract goes through 2025, and could be cut for a cap savings of 360,000 in 2024.
- (RG) Austin Corbett (28
10.0 million in 2024 against the cap. Contract goes through 2026, but 2025 and 2026 seem to be voided years. -1.5 million against the cap if cut in 2024
- (RT) Taylor Moton (29): 30 million in 2024 against the cap. Contract goes through 2025. Could be cut for a cap savings of 5 million in 2024.
Personally, I'd get spend a ton of time scouting o line and get two solid ones in the draft, hopefully at least one of them ends up being damn good and has some position flexibility. Not sure what the FA Oline looks like this season, Im not sure we have the cap space to pay Brown, Burns, Luvu, some others, and get a big name OL.
If I am paying someone I would pay Luvu and Brown. Brown was a beast in the 34 defense this past year.
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On 1/12/2024 at 2:48 PM, Evil Hurney said:
I am also intrigued by Macdonald, but then I wonder if that was the path why not just promote Ejiro. Are they really that different of candidates?
I understand we had problems in the Back end this year due to injuries, but I just don't think he is ready to he a HC. We need to see this team get settled under a good DC before they are shipped off. Let's see how he does for 2 years in establishing this team as a 34 defense before thinking he is a head coach. Heck Tepper might not even keep this one for a year either.
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On 1/12/2024 at 2:27 PM, Evil Hurney said:
In an effort to get a realistic field of head coaching candidates I did a bit of research and projecting.
1) First, I listed all the reported candidates as well as a few of the bigger names (Belichick, Harbaugh, Vrabel) and organized them by type of hire.
2) Next, I went through and projected the HC for the teams in need based upon current rumors and other connecting-of-the-dots.
3) Finally, I eliminated candidates that seemed to be getting courtesy interviews (Internal and Rooney Rule candidates).
Here is the initial list:
Former Head Coaches
- former Patriots HC, Bill Belichick -> Predicting as Falcons HC
- current Michigan HC, Jim Harbaugh -> Predicting as Chargers HC
- Cowboys DC, Dan Quinn -> Predicting as Seahawks HC
- former Titans HC, Mike Vrabel
Offensive Minds
- Bengals OC, Brian Callahan
- Buccaneers OC, Dave Canales
- Lions OC, Ben Johnson -> Predicting as Washington HC
- Eagles OC, Brian Johnson (satisfies Rooney Rule)
- Ravens OC, Todd Monken
- Texans OC, Bobby Slowik -> Predicting as Titans HC
- Dolphins OC, Frank Smith
Defensive Minds
- Panthers DC, Ejiro Evero
- Ravens DC, Mike Macdonald
- Rams DC, Raheem Morris (satisfies Rooney Rule)
Internal Candidates
- Panthers Interim HC, Chris Tabor
The remaining candidates are shown in the poll. Which would you most want as the next Panthers Head Coach?
Ravens DC MacDonald
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On 1/7/2024 at 4:39 PM, Bear Hands said:
Well he grabbed a sack today. Final 2023 stats:
32 solo tackles, 8 sacks, 15 TFL, 1 FF
Worst statistical year since his rookie campaign.
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Is he a better asset than Montez Sweat? Is he worth $25 million+ per year? $20m?
How do we navigate his situation? Word was beginning of season discussions were around $27m/yr
Seems to me that is average but he was learning a new defense this past year. I would sign Brown to the money. I was not a fan of Brown when we took him but he has worked his butt off and he seems to thrive in the 34 defense this year.
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Could not have happen to a nicer guy.
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4 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:
But I thought he couldn’t make those throws?
he wasn't until after the Atlanta game.
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1 minute ago, Shocker said:
3 words…Fair weather fan. Go back to your hole troll
the only troll I see is the one who replied to my post.
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Panthers ranked as NFL's 2nd-worst roster
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what you didn't mention did they get players that understood the 3-4 defense better than the players they lost. Since they were mostly 4-3 players. This we won't know until the season starts.