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18 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

According to who?

I was quoting anyone. I was just asking if we got any "A" players in this draft. The best I saw were players being graded in the "B or C" range. Just asking a question.

Did we get any A players from the draft? All I've seen are B and C players. Even our 1st rd draftee was a B-.

I would like to see the team pick a Cornerback, Wide Receiver, and or an Edge. Doesn't matter what order, More than likely it will be a WR and CB as our 2 2nd Rd choices. With an Edge or TE being the 3rd pick.

On 4/15/2024 at 6:16 PM, Ricky Prickles said:

Is he pretty good I take it? Dont know anything about him personally. How is his durability?

People say he would be a better at nickel. It is a need but not at 33. If we going to take a CB it should be someone who is better across from Horn. Not a every down CB.

On 4/14/2024 at 10:28 AM, 45catfan said:

Take out Benson at #39 and Rattler at #101 and it's not THAT bad.  Those two picks make it seem horrible. Plug in Legette at #39 and Stinnott at #101, then it doesn't look too shabby.

Although we can use a star Nickel like Stinnott we need a CB first then maybe a nickel. We got killed way too many times on 3rd and middle yardage plays last year which turned into first downs.

On 4/14/2024 at 11:32 PM, trucpfan said:

I don't know if we should do that if you think about it a little deeper Canales isn't tied to Bryce at all. You build your team the best way you are fit. And nowadays we've seen second year QBs who can't get it done get benched and eventually moved in from rather quickly. We end up in the top 3 next year and Bryce still looks overwhelmed I'm sure we'll be looking towards a young stud. 

I agree with this lets grab the best stud available Bryce just has to get it done with much better blocking and better weapons out the ball where it needs to be, just be the Bryce we saw at Bama.

Canales will be looking at the next crop of QB's in case Young fails as he did in year one. I won't say Young will be pulled quickly cause Tepper is going to give him every chance to be the Number 1 QB in Carolina, but if he flops. I see another QB picked next year to give him competition. We also need to see if the new OL additions are going to perform to what we paid them or will we be disappointed again and watch Young running for his life as the walls come crashing in as last year. The first 5 games are going to be interesting.

On 4/15/2024 at 6:22 PM, Bear Hands said:

Take anything with a grain of salt right now.  Just posted this in another thread:

He had that huge interception at the end of the title game.

Some fun notes:

• 2X team captain, was named team MVP for the best defense in the country. 
• Described as a player coach and influencer, per the DB coach, he "changed the mindset of everybody on our team"
• Former wide receiver so has the aggressive/ballhawk mentality (this kid doesn't drop INTs)
• 6 INTs, 2 pick sixes last year, 3 picks took back for 70+ yards
• Played 20% outside, 80% slot, had good capabilities blitzing.  5 TFL, 2 sacks
• Only flagged for 1 PI in college (in the title game) covering Polk

Seems like he was a BIG part of that team and its leadership.  

 

Do we need a Nickel or a 2nd CB who can complement Horn. If he is a good Nickel maybe 3rd round.

47 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

Turning over the roster to see if Bryce is actually a bust or not while switching coaches leaves you in a situation where once again for the second year in a row we won't really know who is to blame. 2 years with absolutely no baseline to judge anything from 

They have no choice since they fired Wright in mid season. Maybe with the new staff in place and at least two years of the same coaching we can see what we have. We will know if Tepper made the wrong choice when the team made the choice to go after Young instead of Stroud. We might have had a win or two more with Stroud last year, but we still wouldn't have had our number 1 pick for this year either.

On 3/15/2024 at 11:19 PM, Davidson Deac II said:

What the Bears do is irrelevant.  

If Young works out, the trade was worth it.  If not, it wasn't.  

We will have the a first round pick next year.  As the saying goes..."SUCK IT UP BUTTERCUP!" We had a chance and we blew it to keep Burns, and what did it get us. A low performance player for last season and a 2nd and 5th rd picks this year. Tepper gambled and lost. 

21 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

I agree with all except want to pump the brakes on Burns. Am I correct that he wants 30 million and turned down 27 million? If so is he truly worth that much? If we were talking the top guy in the league or next to top guy in the league I understand but is Burns truly worth what he is wanting?

30 million no he isn't since he didn't play at full speed last year. Give him a 2 or 3 year with an option to talk after year two. Brown is coming up next year is he not. 

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Nope.  No thank you.  I ain't investing money into someone that makes Jeff Otah seem reliable.  That's just a reality.  Jaycee Horn is only a dawg in Pantherland.   No one else talks about him for good reason.  He doesn't play.  3 years in and he frankly has yet to even show his stuff vs a legit good QB/WR tandem because he never is on the field for it. 

I'm focused on Brown and Luvu if I am the Panthers.  Building up a functional offense. 

Denver's offer was pathetic, if they throw in 2nd and 3rd round picks for this year. I take a gamble on it send him packing.

2 hours ago, ncfan said:

https://www.the33rdteam.com/2024-nfl-free-agency-5th-year-option-costs-for-2021-1st-round-picks/
 

have to make the decision by May 2nd

Horns option will cost 11.29 mil

 

keep in mind.  We have roughly 29 mil in Space (probably will open 10 more with restructures etc)

and have Burns+Luuvu as FA.

Can he stay healthy is the question. We never had a full season from him since he has been here. 

On 1/21/2024 at 12:32 AM, Hoenheim said:

How do you think we fix the O-line? 

I have no idea what to think about Ikem Ekwonu. He had a good rookie year but had an attrocious season 2.  Do you swap him and Christensen? Get a LT in free agency and move Ikey to LG?? Its truly baffling at this point. 

Its not realistic to think we could replace everyone but Moton this offseason. 

At the very least we are going to need some very serious depth at the interior positions. Corbett and Christensen have gotten injured two season in a row. Having the two starting OGs missing for most of the season and having scrubs play there probably didn't help, but we also so Bradley Boseman have a really bad year as well. I'm willing to say that the only person on the line that had a decent year was Taylor Moton. 

This was  really REALLY bad year to not have a 1st rounder.  I'm thinking we might be best off trading down from the first pick in R2 and picking up another 2nd  or 3rd to get more ammo. 

Summary of contract situations for O lineman: 

** Not implying that anyone will be cut, just getting the info on the page: 

- (LT) Ikem Ekwonu (23) :   7.5 million in 2024 against the cap.  Has 2024 and 2025 left on his contract, cutting him  would be a hit of - 8.7 million against the cap
- (LG)  Brady Christensen (27) :  1.6 million in 2024 against the cap. will be on the last year of his contract in 2024, and could be cut for a cap savings of 1.3 million 
- (C) Bradly Boseman (29): 4.0 million  in 2024 against the cap. His contract goes through 2025, and could be cut for a cap savings of 360,000 in 2024.
- (RG) Austin Corbett (28 10.0 million in 2024 against the cap. Contract goes through  2026, but 2025 and 2026 seem to be voided years. -1.5 million against the cap if cut in 2024

- (RT) Taylor Moton (29): 30 million in 2024 against the cap. Contract goes through 2025. Could be cut for a cap savings of 5 million in 2024. 
 

Personally, I'd get spend a ton of time scouting o line and get two solid ones in the draft, hopefully at least one of them ends up being damn good and has some position flexibility. Not sure what the FA Oline looks like this season, Im not sure we have the cap space to pay Brown, Burns, Luvu, some others, and get a big name OL. 

If I am paying someone I would pay Luvu and Brown. Brown was a beast in the 34 defense this past year. 

On 1/12/2024 at 2:48 PM, Evil Hurney said:

I am also intrigued by Macdonald, but then I wonder if that was the path why not just promote Ejiro. Are they really that different of candidates?

I understand we had problems in the Back end this year due to injuries, but I just don't think he is ready to he a HC. We need to see this team get settled under a good DC before they are shipped off. Let's see how he does for 2 years in establishing this team as a 34 defense before thinking he is a head coach. Heck Tepper might not even keep this one for a year either.

On 1/12/2024 at 2:27 PM, Evil Hurney said:

In an effort to get a realistic field of head coaching candidates I did a bit of research and projecting.

1) First, I listed all the reported candidates as well as a few of the bigger names (Belichick, Harbaugh, Vrabel) and organized them by type of hire.

2) Next, I went through and projected the HC for the teams in need based upon current rumors and other connecting-of-the-dots.

3) Finally, I eliminated candidates that seemed to be getting courtesy interviews (Internal and Rooney Rule candidates).

Here is the initial list:

Former Head Coaches

• former Patriots HC, Bill Belichick -> Predicting as Falcons HC
• current Michigan HC, Jim Harbaugh -> Predicting as Chargers HC
• Cowboys DC, Dan Quinn -> Predicting as Seahawks HC
• former Titans HC, Mike Vrabel

Offensive Minds

• Bengals OC, Brian Callahan
• Buccaneers OC, Dave Canales
• Lions OC, Ben Johnson -> Predicting as Washington HC
• Eagles OC, Brian Johnson (satisfies Rooney Rule)
• Ravens OC, Todd Monken
• Texans OC, Bobby Slowik -> Predicting as Titans HC
• Dolphins OC, Frank Smith

Defensive Minds

• Panthers DC, Ejiro Evero
• Ravens DC, Mike Macdonald
• Rams DC, Raheem Morris (satisfies Rooney Rule)

Internal Candidates

• Panthers Interim HC, Chris Tabor

 

The remaining candidates are shown in the poll. Which would you most want as the next Panthers Head Coach?

Ravens DC MacDonald

On 1/7/2024 at 4:39 PM, Bear Hands said:

Well he grabbed a sack today.  Final 2023 stats:

32 solo tackles, 8 sacks, 15 TFL, 1 FF

Worst statistical year since his rookie campaign. 

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Is he a better asset than Montez Sweat? Is he worth $25 million+ per year? $20m? 

How do we navigate his situation? Word was beginning of season discussions were around $27m/yr

Seems to me that is average but he was learning a new defense this past year. I would sign Brown to the money. I was not a fan of Brown when we took him but he has worked his butt off and he seems to thrive in the 34 defense this year.

Could not have happen to a nicer guy.

4 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

But I thought he couldn’t make those throws?

he wasn't until after the Atlanta game.

1 minute ago, Shocker said:

3 words…Fair weather fan.  Go back to your hole troll

the only troll I see is the one who replied to my post.

15 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Many people here don’t get to celebrate Bryce…stay off the bandwagon haters

we have a right to our opinions when he wasn't playing well. Since the Atlanta game where the commentator diagramed how the Defense was playing him and why his receivers weren't able to get separation. We have noticed a different style of play calling from Mr Brown. 

The last two 1/4 games Mr Young has impressed me that he might make it as an NFL QB. I want to see a complete game from him but as of now I see him as the next QB for the Carolina Panthers.

2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Its Hubbard, then everyone else.  The defense as a whole stood out, but the only individual player I might choose would be Brown.  We shut down Atlanta's run game, and he was a critical part of that.  

On the last drive, Hubbard pushed the pile on one first down, and then ploughed for another, and those two plays were, along with Chark's catch, the critical plays of the game.  Plus we had around 300 yards of offense today, and Hubbard was responsible for more than a third of it.  

I don't disagree, but the snapper and the holder never get any love. Today's weather made it even harder to do it right.

The snapper and holder on the field goal attempts for snapping the ball in such poor conditions where it needed to be, and having sure hands and setting the ball correctly so Eddie could make the field goals. If you never been a long snapper todays weather is terrible is making sure you get it to the holder with the right spin and location.

59 minutes ago, Gipetto said:

MVP is the no quit attitude of the team

that they didn't do. 

1 minute ago, lightsout said:

 

We're the worst team in football. I'm far more interested in seeing an attitude of "fug these guys" being instilled for the future than trying to seal a win tbh. I think, odds are, we win regardless. That being the case, let's see just one run up the gut to pay off Hubbard's effort all day potentially.

As I said they needed the win and on a rainy day you take it as it comes.