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I thought he couldn't throw an out route.

47 minutes ago, CRA said:

I would.  I mean he was flat out bad in 2 of the last 4.   He wasn’t good directly after the benching.  So it’s still a very cherry picked window defining him and that’s because inconsistent play (which he should be).  Bryce also is hovering around 60% which was good in the prior era, not this one….and was 2nd in the NFL in poor throw % behind Anthony Richardson.  

So we should celebrate his improvement and be glad we have a plan that makes sense for next year.   I’m just not agreeing with riding the wave as far as some.  We know how that works most of the time the NFL when the backing is actually there for some of the talk 

He was bad in the Dallas game. The bucs game was eh, but we didn't lose that game or get blown out because of Bryce Young. No turnovers, 2 TD's, 203 yds. Nothing to write home about stat wise, but bad?

I'm assuming you are talking about the bucs game as the other "bad" game from BY. If so, you are out of your damn mind dude. You saw a box score and are assuming or are just spewing poo because morons will believe you.

Just now, Krovvy said:

It's Evero's fault because his dumbass scheme doesn't allow linebackers to rush the passer as much as Luvu was capable of. Luvu made a career decision and went somewhere where he could rack up sacks, which pays the big bucks. Evero likes to blitz defensive backs.

Do you know what "pushed out" means? Maybe "ran off" might be a better way to put it. But saying "pushed out" implies he's straight up saying "I don't want those guys on my defense".

21 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Several of those players he brought in, and a handful he pushed out.

We lost Luvu, Chinn, Jackson and Burns. We brought in several of his former players.

What do you mean pushed out? Luvu was offered a contract and he declined and went with a smaller dollar amount. How is that Evero's fault? Idk man, maybe you could say that for Chinn, maybe. It did seem he couldn't ever find a use for him. But even then, pushed out? Idk if that's the verbage I would use for any of those guys.

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

Are you telling me this is his one 5 TD game of his career & it's all downhill from here?

OR

He's a PB MVP QB who can CONSISTENTLY have 3+ TD games to carry his team to division championships & contend for the SB?

Eye test saids it's his career best game. They all have 1 or 2 of these career games. Will it take him another 30 starts to get his second? We'll be lucky as fans if he gets to the level of Steve Beuerlein or Ryan Fitzpatrick. That will make him an easy to acquire above average QB, but nothing worthy of what was given up to acquire an average to above average QB.

JFC dude. How many QBs have a career game every week? I mean, Bryce has had a few career games over the last stretch, though this one probably won't be surpassed by him in a bit. I mean if you are expecting 5 TDs from a QB to happen every other game or something, then no poo you are going to be disappointed.

I'm ready for next season. Lets gooo

4 hours ago, mav1234 said:

The source of that was posted just a few posts before yours. See https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-18-2024-nfl-season

Well guess that's what I get for not catching up on the thread

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/bryce-young-skyrockets-final-qb-rankings-week-18

I'll just leave this here. Someone has Young 11 in QB power rankings.

31 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Somewhere I saw he alone was responsible for giving up 180 yards.

50 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

No I’m just telling you to shut the fug up. You’re a fuging dumbass and you have no idea what you’re talking about and need to shut the fug up  

you don’t know what I do. 

Well alrighty

6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

All that hype Piniero was getting about being the most accurate in history. It went to his head and not his leg.

Yep soon as that happened he turned into garbage.

55 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Darnold was better than Bryce the entire time, he just had to deal with Matt Rhule. 

Shanahan and O'Connell proved that I think.

Dude was throwing picks into triple coverage when he was here. More raw physical talent for sure. He just needed a coach who could fix his decision making.

2 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Evans would have had a big day even with Horn playing. If nothing else, all they had to do was line him up on the other side of the field opposite Horn.

Yes and when Canales was asked why he doesn't put horn on Evans all day, he basically said because that's too complicated.

He discussed movements and shifts how horn moving with Evans pre snap will change everyone's assignments...

Bryce is such an enigma. There aren't many QBs who have been as bad as he has and revived their career without changing franchises. His play lately has been mostly high level. All we can do is hope it continues.

But at the same time, it's hard to forget that there is a very very bad QB in there somewhere. His play is such a contradiction that it's hard to square him as a player.

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Is Coker that good or is our bar for WR play that low?

Amazing hands from what I've seen and ability to get open. Idk beyond that but I'd say a lot of potential with that one

We still betting against the Panthers next week? Panthers are favored to win by 1.5 I think I saw. I don't bet, but I wouldn't touch this next game either way.

For what it's worth, I think we win Sunday.

24 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Bryce Young actually benefits from teams that run a heavy blitz % on D.   I think the toughest D for Bryce overall is a team that sits in coverage, sit on the routes,  and relies on their front 4 to do the work.  Bryce still is limited in how much he can threaten a D with certain throws and allows them to cheat on their coverage roles. 

I saw stats on this. Chiefs blitzed on 40%(!!!) of BY's drop backs. When blitzed, he was something like 11 of 14, 100+ yards, 126 passer rating, about 10 yds per. I'll try to find the graphic later.

1 minute ago, PanthersNCSU said:

BY playing at this level for the rest of the season allows our offseason to look so different. If he can keep this up, he's QB1 next year and we build the team around him. Grab a WR, go all in on defense, maybe even competing for the shitty NFC South next year. 

If he falters for a couple weeks, back to the QB carousel. No pressure, Bryce. The entire next 3 years of the franchise rely on the next month of this season.  

This is such a weird situation. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it when looking at how he played in the first 2 games this year. If he and the whole team plays the way they played Sunday, we could win out the rest of the season. I don't think that's happening, but that level of play can win any game. I for one am looking forward to next Sunday.

2 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

I agree with you on Bryce's arm. As some one pointed out earlier, he still hasn't demonstrated the ability to throw an out route consistently. BY's TD passes tend to come on short passes. Our receiving core this season really hasn't score TD's on explosive plays when he is behind center. I don't know if its possible at this time in his career, but our team would be a lot better if BY could improve his arm strength/throwing power this offseason.

 

I don't understand this. He threw a 10+ yarder to David Moore on an out route yesterday. I mean DMoore went straight, then 90° to the sideline. He caught the ball about 5 yards from the sideline. Is that not an out route? Yeah, wasn't to the sideline, but if BY had thrown to the sideline it would have been overthrown by 5 yards. I don't get it. Either y'all just make poo up, I have no clue what an out route is, you aren't really talking about out routes, or y'all have never actually watched a game. I'm 99% confident that wasn't the first out route I've seen BY throw to. I mean, they are very common routes in the NFL.

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

I'm happy for him to keep playing better, especially if it keeps out of the QB conversation on day 1 in April.  I simply think his ceiling is career backup or low end starter. 

I can agree with that, in that this is his ceiling. He's been continuously improving which has been impressive. Looking forward to a few more games and see what he does.

On 11/10/2024 at 3:19 PM, mrcompletely11 said:

Legit is 80 yards?

NFL average is approx 240 passing yds per game. That's an average of 60 yds per quarter, fyi.

You know why our team sucks and can't win games the last 5 years? Culture, or lack thereof. Winning breeds winning.

This idea to lose games means you have a team of players fine with losing, giving up on routes, quitting on plays. Sound familiar?

The team is trying to win games. You can tell the players are fighting out there. This is better than any draft pick for the long term.

6 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Awful 2 minute drill by the Panthers there.  

Yeah even a field goal there would have been a win in my book.

As long as he is improving, he should keep playing

I wonder how happy y'all would have been if we had just cut him? Jesus, some of y'all are some pathetic muthafugas.