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50 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

No I’m just telling you to shut the fug up. You’re a fuging dumbass and you have no idea what you’re talking about and need to shut the fug up  

you don’t know what I do. 

Well alrighty

6 minutes ago, TD alt said:

All that hype Piniero was getting about being the most accurate in history. It went to his head and not his leg.

Yep soon as that happened he turned into garbage.

55 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

Darnold was better than Bryce the entire time, he just had to deal with Matt Rhule. 

Shanahan and O'Connell proved that I think.

Dude was throwing picks into triple coverage when he was here. More raw physical talent for sure. He just needed a coach who could fix his decision making.

2 hours ago, jayboogieman said:

Evans would have had a big day even with Horn playing. If nothing else, all they had to do was line him up on the other side of the field opposite Horn.

Yes and when Canales was asked why he doesn't put horn on Evans all day, he basically said because that's too complicated.

He discussed movements and shifts how horn moving with Evans pre snap will change everyone's assignments...

Bryce is such an enigma. There aren't many QBs who have been as bad as he has and revived their career without changing franchises. His play lately has been mostly high level. All we can do is hope it continues.

But at the same time, it's hard to forget that there is a very very bad QB in there somewhere. His play is such a contradiction that it's hard to square him as a player.

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Is Coker that good or is our bar for WR play that low?

Amazing hands from what I've seen and ability to get open. Idk beyond that but I'd say a lot of potential with that one

We still betting against the Panthers next week? Panthers are favored to win by 1.5 I think I saw. I don't bet, but I wouldn't touch this next game either way.

For what it's worth, I think we win Sunday.

24 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Bryce Young actually benefits from teams that run a heavy blitz % on D.   I think the toughest D for Bryce overall is a team that sits in coverage, sit on the routes,  and relies on their front 4 to do the work.  Bryce still is limited in how much he can threaten a D with certain throws and allows them to cheat on their coverage roles. 

I saw stats on this. Chiefs blitzed on 40%(!!!) of BY's drop backs. When blitzed, he was something like 11 of 14, 100+ yards, 126 passer rating, about 10 yds per. I'll try to find the graphic later.

1 minute ago, PanthersNCSU said:

BY playing at this level for the rest of the season allows our offseason to look so different. If he can keep this up, he's QB1 next year and we build the team around him. Grab a WR, go all in on defense, maybe even competing for the shitty NFC South next year. 

If he falters for a couple weeks, back to the QB carousel. No pressure, Bryce. The entire next 3 years of the franchise rely on the next month of this season.  

This is such a weird situation. I don't think I've ever seen anything like it when looking at how he played in the first 2 games this year. If he and the whole team plays the way they played Sunday, we could win out the rest of the season. I don't think that's happening, but that level of play can win any game. I for one am looking forward to next Sunday.

2 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

I agree with you on Bryce's arm. As some one pointed out earlier, he still hasn't demonstrated the ability to throw an out route consistently. BY's TD passes tend to come on short passes. Our receiving core this season really hasn't score TD's on explosive plays when he is behind center. I don't know if its possible at this time in his career, but our team would be a lot better if BY could improve his arm strength/throwing power this offseason.

 

I don't understand this. He threw a 10+ yarder to David Moore on an out route yesterday. I mean DMoore went straight, then 90° to the sideline. He caught the ball about 5 yards from the sideline. Is that not an out route? Yeah, wasn't to the sideline, but if BY had thrown to the sideline it would have been overthrown by 5 yards. I don't get it. Either y'all just make poo up, I have no clue what an out route is, you aren't really talking about out routes, or y'all have never actually watched a game. I'm 99% confident that wasn't the first out route I've seen BY throw to. I mean, they are very common routes in the NFL.

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Here is where I'm at.  Young had his best day as a pro.  He kept us in the game and didn't lose it for us. GREAT! However, that stat line is a mediocre game for the average NFL QB and this is his best game to date.

I'm happy for him to keep playing better, especially if it keeps out of the QB conversation on day 1 in April.  I simply think his ceiling is career backup or low end starter. 

I can agree with that, in that this is his ceiling. He's been continuously improving which has been impressive. Looking forward to a few more games and see what he does.

On 11/10/2024 at 3:19 PM, mrcompletely11 said:

Legit is 80 yards?

NFL average is approx 240 passing yds per game. That's an average of 60 yds per quarter, fyi.

You know why our team sucks and can't win games the last 5 years? Culture, or lack thereof. Winning breeds winning.

This idea to lose games means you have a team of players fine with losing, giving up on routes, quitting on plays. Sound familiar?

The team is trying to win games. You can tell the players are fighting out there. This is better than any draft pick for the long term.

6 minutes ago, Bama Panther said:

Awful 2 minute drill by the Panthers there.  

Yeah even a field goal there would have been a win in my book.

As long as he is improving, he should keep playing

I wonder how happy y'all would have been if we had just cut him? Jesus, some of y'all are some pathetic muthafugas.

I think these reps Bryce is getting in garbage time are supposed to be somethign of a PROVE IT moment for him, except he keeps proving he is incapable of moving the ball. Bryce has shown repeatedly that with him under center, this team simply cannot score points at all. Andy can. 2 of the last 4 losses were winnable games with Andy in. I cannot remember the last time we had a winnable game with Bryce on the field.

Well good to know our oline will handle them, if the rest stay healthy.

11 minutes ago, PantherKyle said:

Defense is bad and hurt.

We are not good, we are competitive. 

But I like what Canales is building. 

Yeah he just needs pieces. I hope Tepper keeps Canales around for a bit

"Sam Darnold, the league leader in touchdowns"

Wtf world am I living in???

I think if we get a lead we will run the ball chew clock and keep Burrow off the field

All we needed was a qb

Wtf. How does that even happen. I'm glad I did not turn this game on.

How can an NFL team be this bad. I really thought I'd last longer than 1 hr into the first game of the year

1 hour ago, strato said:

Y'all missing my point so this will turn into something I guess. 

The stats from 30 yards, 40 yards (I am assuming and not looking it up), I am reasoning that the hookup rate for 30 yard routes is less that with 20 yard routes. 

Following that viewpoint is the same assumption for 40 yards.. I'm just guessing that a graph would show a decline in success with the increase in distance. 

Lumping those in with 20 yards throws would affect the shorter distance numbers negatively. Making the argument against the importance of field stretching with the forward pass, easier to make. 

Just a comment/observation. I don't know the extent but I'd bet all day long the 30-39, the 40-49, and everything over that too, would pull down those 20-29 numbers. 

And I am not trying to say it's all a conspiracy (to make Young look better). I am saying that the lumping all those things together as deep, is not ideal for certain purposes. It's great for making FF scoring easier, not so great for closer looks. 

I think you can argue this all you want, but everything I've seen recently, and honestly more than just recently, NFL deep passes has been considered 20 yds+. Every article I've read over the last several years that quantifies "deep" passes and defines the term, defines it as 20+ yds. How that became the standard, idk, but it seems to be. I haven't read past this post, but I suspect you are yelling at clouds basically.