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I think people get confused with arm strength vs touch or something. Either way, his arm strength aint the best but it's good enough. He can rocket a short/medium pass into a tight window. He can get the ball downfield 40+ yards no problem. He has thrown plenty of medium/deep out route sideline throws. I have no idea what percentage compared to other QBs, but I feel like he's throwing to the sideline every game. There were multiple sideline throw/catches on Sunday. The fact this is still getting mentioned here is sad. How many times does he have to throw a sideline throw before y'all believe he can throw a sideline throw?

What he cannot do? Send the ball 40 yards down the field while falling to the ground getting hit. Yes he's limited compared to some NFL QBs, but not to the level where I would think he's not physically capable of playing NFL football.

10 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

I also find it funny how these posters have all stayed away due to the negativity, but now they’re showing back up lol. 
 

Yall left because the team was trash, and you could no longer spin that “be positive” stuff or whatever narrative you were trying to push. I hope the panthers keep winning, but if they go back to losing how they were losing, they’ll disappear again. 

Eh maybe. I'm pretty positive just in general. I don't post a lot here because it's a hostile environment if you try to have any kind of measured take. So it's just not worth contributing here. When I do post, I usually never come back to check replies because I really don't want to hear some of the absolute braindead stuff people here say. Mostly hyperbole and exaggeration, but it doesn't add poo to say stuff like "Bryce can't throw more than 5 yards", which is a common statement made here. Why don't they be honest and say "Bryce can't throw 60 yards down the field." Anyway, it's pretty rare to get any kind of decent conversation here so I'll share my piece every once in a while and not come back to see the poo emojis.

I bet there's plenty of people here who read and keep up on things but don't post. Why post when the community is just going to run you off?

He has shown he can pull off some high end throws and be clutch in some situations. He has been really inconsistent and turnovers are his biggest issue. I think his turnovers are mostly happenning due to his size and not being able to see the field clearly in a condensed pocket.

I think he will be an NFL starter in this league for awhile if he can find the right situation and staff. I am not certain if Canales can be that guy for Bryce, but we have seen some positive signs with this, such as week 18 last year and week 6 this year.

I don't put much stock in year 1. It seems like that coaching staff was a mess and I don't know if they just didn't want Bryce, but I get the impression they didn't even try to make it work with him.

The tl,dr version of this is simply, I think he has the potential to be a better player than Sam Darnold currently is. I think the most likely scenario is he finds success on another team.

Good on him for filtering out garbage time stats. Now we can argue about what constitutes garbage time stats.

8 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I agree with OP notion, QBs always get credited for game winning drives even if they do minimal. Just last night Caleb got credited for a GE drive when they basically ran the ball the whole drive and only had to go 36 yards.

QB can only do what is asked of him.

That said, as long as W/L's are QB stats like the NFL treats them, I don't think it matters what the QB is asked to do on a game winning drive. But I don't agree that wins and losses should be treated like a QB stat like they are, but it is what it is like they say.

The narrative is that in game winning drives he is clutch and about 9x out of 10 he is gonna come up with the win. Anything that happened before that clutch final game winning drive is irrelevant to the narrative.

The only argument that could be made is that it's a small sample size, which I concede.

17 hours ago, CRA said:

PFF also is just a bunch of randos bullshitting up stuff with their own biases all over their "grading". 

any grading system that thinks Rico had the 10th best day on offense.....needs to spend some time in front of a mirror and ask themselves why they are so silly.  There grades continue to often make zero sense.  Especially, how they are then used by the masses and wielded. 

and I think Carolina PFF folks are also now self aware of how they are critiqued on Bryce Young at this point given their "check this out"!!! about Bryce facts/highlights.  

PFF said the fumble was a BIG ding on Rico (the off-script lateral thing they tried). They also said his PBLK really drug him down some. I think they said he has the highest grade as a runner in the NFL or 2nd highest something like that.

Would be great if it's 8 of 10 this time next week.

GOTTDAM that was a fun game. Go Panthers!

Not my petition, just passing it along.

https://www.change.org/p/fire-panthers-espn-reporter-david-newton?source_location=psf_petitions

A shut out win is nice.

Keep pounding!

The internet lacks any nuance. BY actually played good I'd say 90% of his snaps. I went back and watched every play. The 10% that was bad though, was REALLY bad. I'm hard pressed to put blame on him for everything though, like the 2nd int and the time where XL ran the wrong route and it looked like he just sailed the pass. I think I counted 3 or 4 bad throws in the game which were on BY.

The fumble is 100% on him. That is like the exact same situation as in the Dallas game last year. Same with the first pick. He didn't see the safety, just like that Atlanta game.

There were many passing yards lost due to drops. The Renfrow throw (50/50 Bryce imo but Renfrow had his hands on the ball), Tmac drop, and XL not getting his feet down. Those were all chunk plays.

Bryce didn't play bad, just wasn't elite and when he made mistakes, they were colossal mistakes. Honestly, I think we should move on, I don't think he is IT, but too much blame for this game is going his way imo.

Every Canales press conference, if the name Coker came up, the word conditioning also came up. Also, idk if Coker just has that baby face, but his face has a chubbiness to it.

10 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

I'd be so curious if he gets picked up elsewhere. Still shocked Ian did

I was never shocked about Ian Thomas. He was a very good blocker. I think most fans couldn't see that. He's definitely a good vet minimum 3rd TE. He was just overpaid here for his skillset.

Panthers - "We extended our second best lineman!"

Huddle - "Why the fug would you do that?!?!??!?!?"

2 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Before I even clicked on the thread i already knew what this was...another film breakdown of "why it wasn't bryces fault". 

 

I'd love for you to do a film break down and do an alternative analysis. If you disagree with Icege's assessment, I think it would be good to have another view. I'd read your thread if you did that. I'd love for you to show us what you saw.

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

The trade up into the 1st still infuriates me. Height of fuging hubris.

We traded 1 spot so we have a 5th year option. 1 spot dude. Personally, I get the logic behind wanting the 5th year option on a WR. I don't think hubris has anything to do with it. And it's not like we gave up more than the equivalent of a 7th rounder to move 1 spot. Basically we got a 5th year option on XL for next to nothing. Really not that big of a deal.

I saw a Panthers/Browns preview from CBS. 10 min long youtube video....7 mins discussing the browns, 2:30 mins discussing Panthers, :30 outro.

This was an excellent watch. I can't believe I watched the whole thing.

For anyone in this thread mentioning Tepper, owners, or billionaires, they really have nothing to do with this. More guaranteed money doesn't mean the owners pay more. It just means, if they get cut we get dead cap and someone else gets paid less than they would have if we had the cap space.

I think the only way owners can truly save themselves money when it comes to players is either by keeping the team well below the cap, but I don't see any teams operating at the cap minimum.

Either that, or offset language if a player gets picked up by someone else. But even then, that just opens more cap to be spent on different players instead. 

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I wonder if the value in theory of those picks next year go up in value simply because of the qb influx that will be in the draft? I just hope this isnt another burns situation.

It can't be a Burns situation. Tmac is an unknown in the NFL. Burns had what, 4 years of NFL film at the time of the trade offer? Sure you can judge taking the trade or not with 20/20 hindsight. Which I'm sure you will if Tmac isn't all pro this year. I really doubt they turned down 3 first rounders based on the context of this video though. Feels like you are just priming yourself to poo on the team later in the year like you always do.

I agree with OP. 4 players on a second contract is a really, really good draft. nevermind all the other noise, that's it that's the bottom line for grading a draft imo. 2 starters+ is an above average draft in the NFL. Hate on it all you want, but them the facts. Go look it up.

That's odd. They are projecting BY to have 3 rushing TD's in 15 games (really?) and AD to have 0 for a total of 4 rushing TD's by QB's.

13 minutes ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

I think this signing will say a lot about Wallace. If he can’t beat this guy out, then it’s time to officially move on from him after this season. 

What? Dude was a rookie last year and is 22. poo I'd keep him till his rookie contract runs out at least.