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2 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

3 day ban minimum imo

Bro, I been sipping and it got sent to me... I never post without checking. Hell, I barely post period...  you bugging but life goes on. 

Oh ok... well close this one up somebody lol

I recall  somebody saying he'd stay but after this, I'd say him for Burns chances went up possibly....   Especially  with Tepper wanting a wr now. 

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

I mean at one point we held the number 1 pick last year too. It's still early in the season, hopefully we can do just enough to disappoint the bears and take them out the williams and Harrison sweepstakes lol

Oh I know lol. Just tired of seeing the people we trade blow up. Lol we definitely need to improve asap!! 

Welp, with Chicago's win, our pick is officially Caleb Williams... I mean 1st. 

Regardless of how any of us feel about the qbs, I'm sure him hearing about Stroud  is eating up his ego bad.  That's why those reports of a wrare getting stronger. 

2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Wilson is a NFL level athlete though. Not the best at playing qb but physically he belongs

Oh yeah I agree. My point  is that we can't expect Bryce to have perfect scenarios  to make those throws. He was drafted number 1 to do just that. He was supposed to be a timing thrower and that was the perfect time to show that skill. The redzone is the toughest for a reason... that look was there for the taking. 

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Losing and seeing little progress in Young is worse in my mind than sitting Bryce and winning with the backup.  Tepper probably doesn't see it that way though.  He wants his shiny new toy out there.

Frank and Scott have to know some W's are going to be required, and SOON, before their job security starts to come into question.  Heck, Huddlers want one or both of them gone NOW.

Yeah its all a mess honestly. Trade up to get the 1 qb who had the most limitations  and force him out there. We do need to see Bryce but so far he has shown nothing to merit being selected number 1 overall. It's early and guys like Tua and Trevor have improved  but neither had as many limitations.   Scott said plug n play... so they got to live with it for right now. 

1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Who cares what they’re looking at? They’re 10 yards away from AT. Unless you honestly think Young has the worlds weakest arm and can’t fit that ball in there? Any legitimate starting NFL QB makes that throw with ease 

Zach Wilson did it last night in tighter coverage  2 times!!

6 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

In that still screenshot

There are two players the safety and corner converging on Thielen looking at the QB.

I would agree with you if their backs were turned or the bull rush from Hunter didn't force him of the spot.

The biggest mistake he made was the fumble that shifted the momentum of the game. 

 

When Thielen waved his hand,  Bryce should've been already launching the ball towards the bottom  of the H and E. If he could make that throw with zip, it'd been money. The NFL shows you that you can't just wait for WRs to be 5 yards apart from the DB. 

Just now, 45catfan said:

I honestly think Jesse Bates seriously scarred Bryce.  He has been timid as hell throwing the ball vertically since that two pick performance.  Leave it to the Falcons.

I've mentioned that myself  and I truly believe it. Another reason he should've sat until probably  the bye at least to watch Andy. He still needs to play this year,  so we can see progress  but they seriously  should've held him out a couple more weeks. I seriously  believe with Dalton we would've been 3-1 going to Detroit/Miami  and worse case you looking 3-3  going into the bye. Itd gave him another week to study etc but nope, had to rush him back out there. 

3 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

 

Mannnnn, I remember  this and that would've been the perfect time to sew that shoot but instead a fan got the ball in the stands. Lol

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Wait, I have been assured on good authority by Huddlers that Frank's playbook only has plays under 10 yards.   Maybe Bryce was confused why AT was so far down the field.  Dude must have went rouge on that play.

Bro, I feel you!! Yes Frank could play calling better but no excuses for Bryce. It's been plenty of opportunities  where he should've just let it rip!!  

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

How many passes do we see across the NFL on a weekly basis that the receiver isn't open but the ball is put where only the receiver can get it? A NFL QB has to be able to make those throws too. 

I genuinely think the reason we're seeing so many WR screens is he can't see over the linemen very well. At Alabama he had time behind one of the best lines to wait for lanes to open. Right now he doesn't. You can only anticipate so many throws. 

 

Andy did it in Seattle to Chark for sure. 

I highlighted  the moment!! He could've had a free shot. Brady Quinn even mentioned all game how he has a bad tendency  to turn his body facing the sideline and basically  running into pressure because  he has limited  everything to  1 side of the field. He did it 3 separate  times I know where he could've stepped up and passed or ran for a 1st down. 

13 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

Thielen isn't open on that play. That backside corner would have been there and then there is a safety on the opposite end that he would be in on the play as well. 

On that double move and pump, let it rip to the back of the endzone. Had he timed it, he could've hit Adam in stride. He is so use to running around, that I think he got shocked at it. He had a window to throw it and it's a do or die moment. 

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Guys don't get anymore wide open than that in the redzone in the NFL.

 Exactly!! His " Elite" anticipation  should've let it rip right when the double move n fake occurred. 

Look at this play and tell me Bryce didn't have a chance to pass it deep for a TD. Yes the play calling could improve  but no way you can say he is taking shots that are there. He had Chark 2 separate times but wouldn't let it go  too. 

https://x.com/SeifertESPN/status/1708842144146784613?s=20

5 hours ago, OneBadCat said:

You can’t disregard his size though. It’s a problem because he doesn’t have the physical tools to play within the game or out of structure. Even his running is comparatively slow because his stride is much smaller and doesn’t cover enough ground. 
 

Bryce is cerebral because he had to be the that way. It’s the only way he could  compete at the college level. Now the competition is too athletic and too smart themselves .

Expecting the rest of the team to be perfect so he can shine is not realistic or sustainable. As the #1 pick, and for what he gave up for him, he should be elevating the team. Not the other way around.

It’s not his fault we took him. It’s not personal in that sense. But my god what a stupid pick. The FO has had the right answers in front of them for 3 years now and they continue to outsmart themselves with stupid choices.

This is it!!! You don't trade the house for a QB with that many limitations. It's the main reason his size generally  get drafted in round 3 or so.  The risk isn't as magnified. The biggest reason anti- Bryce guys are speaking up, is because of the ridicule if you thought another QB was better. So many people named dragged bc they liked Stroud or Richardson  and yet here we are with our savior in week 4 crying on the sidelines. 

28 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

Bryce is plug and play if you have weapons and an oline. If you don't then he shouldn't see the field til those two are fixed. Stroud and AR can play with sub optimal players around them because they will take shots and trust the WR and with AR if the line breaks down he can take off and run. 

You'd still think that Bryce skill of reading defenses and  accuracy  would show more than he has. I know he has talent but if anything, you'd expect the other 2 to struggle a lil more because  they were the ones they said couldn't learn the playbook and etc. I see your logic but Bryce needs to take shots too. 

20 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

We are stuck,  that doesn't mean he needs to play if isnt improving. 

The Jets had bad luck with Qbs but they sure gave Zach 1 year... so the key is seeing something... like Tua showed enough to warrant. Bryce so far looks like he needs to sit a year and it's depressing  bc the dude was supposed to be the most plug n play qb available  by everyone(media) and a ton of our fans.  Nobody can say Stroud is in a great scenario. His weapons are barely ok and his oline is garbage but he consistently  has shown the ability to go through reads and evade sacks. Ironically that was supposed to be Bryces skill. 

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We also had a horrific D and Cam was looking like a stud.

Also Cam rookie year was the lockout year where  practicing was nowhere near the standard  going into the season. I think they didn't get to practice normally  until a couple of weeks before week 1. 

8 minutes ago, HarbingersDad said:

I wish this was a possibility, but I can’t see it being a reality. The Bengals are having to offload Tee because of Burrow’s massive contract and Chase being up next. I can’t see a world where they can trade for Burns and then pay him the 30 mil a year or whatever he thinks he’s worth. 

I thought about that logic honestly!! I think they'd do that bc they wouldn't be investing all on one side. You may be right tho but 1 things for sure, Burrow is not looking like the next Brady right now. They should go more run based until he gets right. 

7 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I saw several routes today in that range and Bryce didn't throw the ball. 

On  a couple of the sacks, Chark was streaking with no safety help but he would turn his body to the left and run right into pressure. He refused to just let it rip. His confidence  is shot and we are in a confusing conflict. Sit him with the hopes of salvaging  his mental  and letting him develop  or play him for the rest of the season and if he doesn't improve, trade him. Can't be stubborn  if no development  happens.  Right now his trajectory  is Teddy Bridgewater.  Maybe if we add talent  like Miami, his style becomes more salvageable  but this is tough to watch weekly. Especially  after watching Dalton fight in Seattle last week. 

Our run down would be better if the offense could actually do something. Evero seems like the true mastermind on the staff. With all of your secondary  depleted,  you have to drop more people back. In am ideal world,  Horn would shut down 1 side of the field.  No way anyone can hate on Everos scheme. Matos is showing signs. I think it's time to activate Barno and  DJ Johnson and trade Burns. Develop  our young guys.