Bear Hands

I think that's smart for SF to explore instead of Aiyuk.  Aiyuk is one of the cleanest players in the game today.  He's excellent at so much and just crisp.

Not to mention, J-Jennings could be an excellent #2 there if they give him the chance.  Aiyuk, Jennings, Pearsall could be a solid group still in tact and they get some good value for Deebo while they still can.  

38 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

From the actual owner of the business not someone spinning a story 

I swear, that bar owner could pass off as Tepper's estranged cousin lol

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

Seriously... Juan should be banned from posting twitter links if he's just going to post the links and not let them load into the posts first.

It's not that hard, more frustrating than just the idiots on here who post the most unrealistic ideas/situations.

Yeah, I can only keep editing his posts for so long lol

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

a top center would be aces.  If we dont go center at some point and when corbett goes down, this entire revamped line is at the mercy of whoever they sign off the street

Ah - yeah I got sucked in thinking only about defense haha.  Totally fair.  

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

we need a starter at 39

Just depends I suppose how you qualify starter when there's a NB who can play the star role that would be in there at a higher snap % than some technical starters.  

There's about 7-9 always out there--Both ILBs, two starting S, two outside CBs, 2 of the 3 DL, 1 of the two EDGE guys.  Our remaining edge rotation and 3rd-4th DBs are still pretty much starters.  

But sure, if we have an outside corner we love, I imagine that would take precedent (I.E. Kool-Aid or Tampa).  Same goes if they think Kneeland is a 3-down guy.  

Pre-shows are beginning.  Let's get some good ole' rabble rabble rabble going.

Our outstanding, super revered, perennial winning Panthers hold 2 picks.  #39 in the 2nd and the first pick in the 3rd, #65.

Just now, ForJimmy said:

Ok I’m sold! Gimme! 

Not everyone will be fans of a slot corner early, but I'm personally sold on the player.

Thing is, ILB is critical for our two-high shell.  They need to be fast sideline to sideline, be able to close in quickly, hover all over and Shaq coming off injury scares me.  

Colson or Cooper could make a lot of sense.  Don't know how we'd do if we're looking at journeymen at LB this year.  Very important for the Fangio disciple defenses.  

2 hours ago, Martin said:

I haven’t heard this before, what were the character concerns?

Brugler said he heard things "about his character" from squads after the Senior Bowl.  He may have interviewed poorly.  Got all the momentum after the Senior Bowl, but then did the opposite once teams started meeting him and flying him for private-30s

1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

We seem to like Saintrisil a lot and he would make a good leader on the defense.  Still seems a little high for a strictly NB, but maybe he can play some outside as well just undersized?

Outside wise - check out Sainristil against Marvin Jr. when Johnson went down in that crazy game. 

He held his own against one of the top WR prospect in forever, at hair under 5'10.  The year prior, same rivalry game, a moment at NB, had to stack up in the slot against a 6'4 250 TE in Stover and had one of the best plays you'll see to swat the ball away from the defender in a crucial moment in the endzone.  As with any guy he has misses on tape, but his highs are big highs in big moments.  

And between Evero's penny front (the nickel 3-3-5 we disguise as a 5-1), dime, and our other subpackages, he loves using slot corners and runs heavy zone with high % blitzes.   We really haven't had ideal guys for him yet --did get some who had experience in the system like Hill.  Chinn was tried a bit and didn't work out, others rotated in but we never found our long term answer.  And that's the bulk of our defensive snaps.  We have 6 DBs on the field quite a lot.    

And historically, Evero seems preferential and totally fine with shorter DBs.  Interestingly-Who is the best rated zone DB in the draft? Sainristil (at least according to pff).  Not to mention being the captain, spoke of as a coach amongst players, being a tough willing blitzer, solid/aggressive run defender, and the best ballhawk on his team (one of the top in the country).  He made big plays in big games.   Lot's of good IMO, but yes, slot corner high is a ballsy move.

Some good info: https://theathletic.com/5392472/2024/04/05/raiders-nfl-draft-prospects-mike-sainristil/

One of the articles that sold me--

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“He was pissing me off — he was calling out formations, routes,” McMillan said at the NFL Scouting Combine last month.

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“He’s an undersized nickel who can probably give you some time at safety,” The Athletic draft writer Nick Baumgardner said. “More importantly, though, there’s not a better defensive leader/table setter in this class than Mike Sainristil. (He’s) extremely intelligent in coverage and a fearless run defender who also caused problems as a blitzer.”

To confirm - that's officially $12.4 mil for 2025 on the books.  

Schefter with the update that everyone's known for a year lol

What's done is done is done 

10 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

I love Luke.  I think Kay Adams does too lol.

Bills have a barn of picks -- could see them going a few routes.  Maybe a trade down, or maybe take their top guy and then trade back up from 60 for another one.  They also have DB and DL needs.    Will be interesting to see what they do.

Overall, DeJean, Johnny Newton & Kool-Aid are three who I imagine could go fairly quickly.  Solid talents.   But thing is, there's teams now with young QBs needing to either protect them or give them weapons.  A real quality defender could fall.  Excited to see what happens.       

I'm sure they will catch on

When I used to live in Charlotte eons ago, used to drop by the combo Brueggers/Caribou all the time in that building.  That bar has always been meh lol

36 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I would love to have him--the personality alone makes him seem like a leader-Corbett is gone after this season, imo.  Watch Tennessee--they may take him.  I am guessing a ton of trades early in round 2--so who knows?

Apparently it wasn't only the medicals--there are teams reportedly w/character concerns about JPJ per Daniel Jeremiah and Dane B.  He may have a slide.  

37 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Sorry, Bear Hands--I have been working on a similar thread for the past hour--a bit different in that it discusses the teams prior to pick 39 and predicts how each might go. 

I think the pick will be Saintrisil CB or Cooper LB.

Cool deal--feel free to add wherever.  More discussion the better.  

37 minutes ago, Growl said:

I think I expect edgerrin cooper but also wouldn’t be surprised at a tight end, which will make people freak out, but sinnot is one of those guys every fanbase thinks they’ve discovered as a round 3 gem and is thus potentially going to go a lot higher than expected. Both of those guys got top 30 visits. They’ve done absolutely nothing to bolster tight end all offseason despite aggression elsewhere. 

corner has obviously gotten a lot of smoke as well. 

That’s a very fair observation about TEs. This class had Bowers but I don’t think teams have Sanders as a clear TE2 that some sites have had him pegged as. I like when TEs were a critical part of their offense in school and not just athletic upside, Sinnott was the leading receiver for that squad. Albeit an iffy one on offense but still- good take.

Who do y'all got? Some rumblings...

• If we stay put at 39, I can see us going the DB Tampa/Sainistril or LB Colson/Cooper/Wilson routes.  Maybe Marshawn Kneeland at EDGE. 
• Both JPC and Frazier are still available at Center
• A double dip at WR could be fun - McConkey or Franklin would be interesting guys to compliment Legette. 
• Don't be surprised if we invest higher than you'd like at RB today (Benson, Wright, Brooks)
• A presser takeaway - If we're looking for guys to fill roles as Canales described, I think both Wash products in Polk & McMillan would be strong options remaining in this draft that would compliment the WR room we're building.  Can play X, Z, slide inside, do a bit of everything. 
• Brenden Rice & Javon Baker are two notables with X potential at 65 or later
• And if we're looking for life after Thielen/not sure about Mingo, I would NOT discount Roman Wilson, Malik Wash, or Corley.

Gut leans DB or LB, but won't be surprised if it's a double dip.  

1 minute ago, X-Clown said:

Those situations are kind of different to me - Brissett was only a one year deal and a desperation play for Ron if the Howell experiment didn't go well to try to save his job which was on the hottest of hot seats. 

Tyrod only got 5.5 mil per year and Devito only played initially because Tyrod got injured (and after Daniel Jones was done for the year). Their season was basically over by the time Tyrod was healthy enough to play and they had nothing to lose by seeing what Devito had

true true

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

wait until the falcons learn that Pennix is on his 2nd cadaver acl in his knee

Oh the fans at least know: 

this dude puts it well:

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It’s just so much to unpack:

Cousins:

Cousins is on a 4 year contract

$45 million per year which is same per year as the Mahomes mega contract

The contract is over 50% fully guaranteed

The contract has a no-trade clause

This is a “we 100% believe in you & want to win now” contract

Penix:

Generally considered to be a ‘top 50’ pick

relatively older QB in the draft (24 in 2 weeks)

If he remains a backup through the Cousins contract he will be 28 when he first starts

What is the plan here?

If you are unsure on Cousins either don’t get him or sign him to a higher per year shorter contract, the current contract locks you into him for a long time

If you want to get young QB in an early round to sit behind your starter do it on the last year of your current QB’s contract not day 1 of a 4 year on contract

TLDR: This doesn’t help win now & your pick won’t touch the field until he’s 28 so it probably won’t help you win later.

1 minute ago, X-Clown said:

Minshew is what he is, a guy that you feel good if he's your #2 for a few games, or a bridge QB. But it seems like the Raiders didn't view him that way with the contract they gave him, nor did they have any faith in O'Connell if they paid Minshew that much and made overtures to draft one too.

Point taken - though it's not too far off Brissett and Tyrod type money who had younger guys like Devito and Howell play over them when push came to shove.

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

The Raiders got screwed out of Penix.  That could be losing--here is the question:  Do they take Rattler today? 

I don't think they need to panic and get a QB.  They missed out on the top guys, so just build up the team until the right time comes.  You're not getting anyone much more promising than O'Connell (2023 early-4th) to compete with Minshew.  

8 minutes ago, CRA said:

I can get down wtih this one.  I think Atl helped the Raiders have a good draft.  Not that I don't like Penix, but I think them landing Brock is better for them than if they had gotten Penix.  And I think they were the team most thought might get squirrely and take him 

I like that the Raiders didn't shy away from him just because they have Mayer.  Their defense is already becoming scary and they're positioning themselves well to drop a QB in come 2025.  They need another outside CB and a WR with a lot of good ones still out there.  The DL adding Wilkins with Crosby, Koonce, & Tyree could be nasty.  A steady accumulation of trench warfare and blue chippers.

Elsewhere, I love the Pearsall fit in SF.  Could be a perceived reach, but I have a hard time not seeing him work out in the league.  

And the Rams - I was thinking they would be aggressive but they didn't need to and landed Verse at 19.  Excellent value and he will pair really well with Byron Young.

4 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

I think Minshew wins that job, not typical that you give a backup QB 12.5 million per year

Yeah that's true.  Gotta admit though, Minshew looked a lot less capable in IND than earlier in his career.  Think Aiden played for LV with more ease and had a bit better vision/could see more of the field.  Minshew is a real backyard style QB that can get locked on guys.