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Something I saw in the 2020 Draft for Funsies
Bear Hands replied to SaltAndPepper's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not pick 53? Hehe -
It's been said - Jewell & Wallace are our ILBs Long shot Shaq returns on a cheap deal to backup (or maybe start?..but I doubt it with him being a long timer/Evero never being the guy to pick him). See us signing a new FA or drafting another one in the mid rounds for depth. And unless we offload, Clowney & Wonnum are the OLBs (and hopefully Pearce/Green/etc via R1). DJJ will still be dicking around as well.
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PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
That’s a similar lens that I’m looking at through the potential 3-down edge talent. Though the pressure rate numbers are a tad different than on PFF. Must have an added metric that keeps them low vs Pass Rush Win rate. Carter’s Win rate for example is 22.6 on PFF -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I’m a Will Johnson fan but I think Benjamin Morrison ends up CB1. Massive appeal with him in the scouting community right now. -
This has got to be worst coaching cycle in years
Bear Hands replied to ProcessBlue2's topic in Carolina Panthers
Cowboys have all but confirmed Brian Schottenheimer Down to NO -
CBS mock. Top 10 spots trade at top
Bear Hands replied to raleigh-panther's topic in Carolina Panthers
Not so sure there's a run, but if there's any QB that's rising, I agree -- I see Dart over Milroe and others. Much better skillset and is an accurate passer with size and athleticism. Top intermediate game, much higher capabilities as a pro-passer than Milroe. It bugs me he's coming out of Ole Miss though, that system can be deceiving as we all know. -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I like Pearce Jr. a ton. I see rather short-sided mocks dropping him but when you look at the big picture, scouts want a few things with top edge talent and he checks a lot of boxes: Size - check Bend - check Burst - check Run defense - check (top of class run stop rate) Good, consistent tape - check And then when the analytics departments start checking him out.... Pass Rush/Pressure metrics - HUGE check - 2024 alone: 43 hurries, 22.7% win rate, created consistent pressure within 2.5 seconds of the snap (big for Canales' philosophy IMO) *He's also a Charlotte native so likely grew up a Panthers fan. PR Win Rate is not an end all/be all stat, but it becomes one when you separate the pass-rush specialists from the 3-down types. So looking at the other (potential) 3-down types-- You have Shermar Stewart for example, who's a good, not great at run-d, he's at 12%, not good and it showed at times. He disappeared for stretches. Most successful guys are at least in that mid-teens range. Kennard, who has had flashes, but inconsistent, is not good in run-d, and his win rate is only 13%. Huge red flag IMO. -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Will say, as I've dug into things, Mike Green is absolutely legit. There are only 3 appropriately-sized guys in this class with over a 20% PR win rate, 99 percentile PR skills: Abdul Carter, James Pierce, & Mike Green. All 3 of those guys are 3-4 molds, but not undersized or poor in run-d grade by any means. Will say, Pierce would not be a bad option at 8 if Graham IDL & Johnson DB are gone. Those 3 are the top. I find it hard to dispute. Gillette arguably falls into this category, but his run-d isn't at their level or else he'd be viewed much higher in this class. Then comes the appeal of Jalon Walker who's this offball/edge hybrid. Overall, just a stud football player. Then there's the consistent, hard-nose, above average type in Sawyer. Nothing flashy, but he's a known commodity, seems like a dude primed to join an upper midwest team. But the guys floating around 10% PR win rates that aren't necessarily stud run defenders, I just don't want much part of. Mykel, Shermar, Kennard are the types that worry me. Now, the pass rush specialists, give me those guys like JT, Princely (stud), Donavon Ez in R2-4...instantly insert them into our sub packages, PR downs and let them cook. Some really interesting options. -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
lol what have I done -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
I don't know, I don't see who's stock could realistically rise this draft. These guys just aren't that good of prospects and the tape ain't great either. Milroe is a bit more like a Kellen Mond for me. Not as physically imposing as AR. Has the dual ability, athletic traits, arm, but really no feel as a QB (okay, some similarities lol). All the essentials like pocket awareness, anticipation throws, seeing the layers of live play, it's just not what you want as a QB. Zone-read skills, but no consistency and hasn't really shown he can be that field general. Lower than expected adjusted percentages, SUPER low pressure grades. Just a toolsy-QB IMO. Nix was way more consistent his final year than Ewers and is way more accurate with his deep balls. In addition, Ewers does not have the agility Nix has. Think they're quite different. Something just hasn't clicked yet with QE. He never found his go-to "guy" in school, really had a problem finding and staying in rhythm. And for having so much talent around him, he just never produced what you think he should have. Nix on the other hand was able to go bonkers with Tez, Bucky & Franklin at Oregon, also just had excellent mechanics and good velocity that could trick you to thinking his arm's more powerful than it is. Kyle McCord could be a guy to watch. But at highest, he could rise to R2. I just see Ward & Sanders at the top, but I'm unsure I'd even classify them as 1sts. Many speculated (Brugler, Sando, others) before decisions were made last year that Ward was viewed as a 4th rounder at best developmental...and that was after 2 really positive seasons at WSU. This may not be common sentiment, but I wouldn't take Ward or Sanders over Penix or Nix. -
PFF Update Rankings - Notable ED shifts
Bear Hands replied to Bear Hands's topic in Carolina Panthers
Yeah I should have noted they aren’t listing Walker as an Edge defender on their site but he can totally play there as well as offball. -
The draft season shakeups are starting to begin on ranking boards. PFF now has 7 ED ranked in the first round. Albeit that’s relative to this draft class, not necessarily 1st round grades. https://www.pff.com/draft/big-board?season=2025 Notable: Position/Overall Ranking/Name 1/2 Abdul Carter 2/9 James Pearce (somewhat surprised) 3/11 Mike Green (surprise, high climber) 4/18 Mykel Williams (fell) 5/20 Shemar Stewart 6/22 Jack Sawyer (climbing) 7/25 Nic Scourton (fell) 8/33 Donovan Ezeiruaku (climber) 9/38 Landon Jackson 10/39 Princely Umanmielen (surprise/slight fall, but high upside) 11/44 JT Tuimoloau (personally, I like him for us R2)
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[The Athletic] Panthers’ offseason to-do list
Bear Hands replied to Icege's topic in Carolina Panthers
I quite like the Blackmon idea - he’s a good DB -
Counter to the assumed notion, the value of RBs is actually increasing but was at its lowest dip in its history a few years ago, so its still pretty damn low. The best of the best could start getting better contracts but that lowest valley was around 2021/2022. Teams that have infrastructure to comfortably add that high-quality sparkplug can get studs higher. We are not one of those teams....(will be interesting to see who pops for Jeanty- Bengals? Cowboys?) And the problem is Brooks isn't just that bit. What I found interesting was that most/if not all the higher mid rounders like him (IR), Corum, Benson, & Lloyd didn't quite show up. Yet you had Bucky Irving, Tyron Tracy, & Ray Davis finding roles without major injuries ahead of them. He wasn't in that gamebreaker class. So, it's not that RBs shouldn't be selected in the 1st/2nd type argument, it's more the expectation of what that type of R2 selection should be adding to your team. He just didn't make sense for us. Guys like Frazier or Sainristil did. Unless it's generational, that sweet spot is R4-5 IMO for RBs. Heck, we have the 8th-11ish best rated RB in 2024 on this roster and he was a 2020 4th.
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Could be the year of Barkley & Henry squaring off in the big game... Stafford played his butt off. Felt bad for Limmer, he did really well today and then botched that assignment at the end. Solid game.
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Limmer is really holding his own
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Luvu / Chinn….. why did we let them go again?
Bear Hands replied to TheBigKat's topic in Carolina Panthers
Luvu had the open market he wanted to test, and honestly, it seemed like he was preferential to elsewhere even if the money was similar. Chinn was the 2020 runner-up DROY. His type of talent doesn't just not fit but I guess the 2 high shell isn't optimal - we just couldn't use him the way Snow did. He's a fit with the now more hybrid-Cover 3 defense Quinn deploys. -
We'll see. I think it would be hard to slow down WAS right now. PHI/Kellen Moore can call duds and Stafford has shown his age (although they've had great flashes). At full strength, I still feel BAL is the best team, but you can't deny Mahomes. He's like damn Brady in his prime. The BAL/BUF game is gearing to be THE game this season.
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WAS could very much win next week, be it LAR or PHI. I don't think this is an abberation. Also, think the more entertaining SB scenario out of teams left would be WAS v BAL/BUF. Potential MVP vs. ROTY.
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https://atozsports.com/nfl/detroit-lions-news/hendon-hooker-could-potentially-be-leaving-with-lions-oc-ben-johnson-according-to-an-nfl-insider-what-the-lions-could-get-in-return-and-their-next-step-at-qb/ Who knows, rumors are rarely valid…. Ben Johnson may be favoring LVR because he could start from scratch (and bring Hooker with him who knows his offense) Wild idea, doubt it’s credible though but never know.
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We have to be getting a new NT right?
Bear Hands replied to thunderraiden's topic in Carolina Panthers
There is usually one annual glaring perceived need that we ignore for the most part. But I think the defense’s performance was poor enough to warrant a pretty major overhaul sans Brown & Horn. Trevin should hopefully stick and Jewell+Wonnum should still be here, but the rest is pretty much up in the air. Futures of Tuttle, Robinson, Woods, Jackson, & Shaq are unsure even considering some contracts. Seems like a decent IDL FA and draft to add from. -
Yeah they'll be tough to beat. I'm excited to see the WAS matchup. Detroit has the defensive personnel to make Daniels frustrated, even if they aren't consistently getting pressure. I really wish they had Hutch back, he would be so much fun to watch in the playoffs against a QB like Daniels.
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Feeling a bit confident in this assessment right meow