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Not like we haven’t seen great defenses have an off night or two. Fanbases are fickle.

3 hours ago, BrianS said:

I'm sorry you missed the point.  Haynes is what he is at this point.  There is no "potential" to tap into.

I'm sorry you've mistaken me for someone who is a Panthers trasher.  I am definitely a Panthers realist.  I prefer to look at what is really happening; not what any rose colored glasses tell me, and certainly not what the negative masses tell me.

Haynes has shown us who he is.  He's on his second contract, one which the Panthers had no competition for his signature on.  Not even from the Washington Riverboats.  He has 1338 snaps in his career, making 83 tackles and 13 sacks.

By way of comparison, Mike Rucker was a good - not great - defensive end for us.  After five years of his career he had 244 tackles and 36.5 sacks.  Charles Johnson - good not great - 153 tackles and 31 sacks after five years.

Haynes is the dictionary definition of a JAG.  Doesn't mean he can't or won't contribute, just means he's an average NFL player.  Every team has them, every team needs them.  But you don't lay your hopes on a guy at this stage of their career suddenly becoming a solution.  He's just a rotational piece we employ because you can't have a roster full of studs.

Those DE were starters. Haynes is great depth like Al Wallace.

We need to bring Steve Smith in to whip our wide receivers into shape. Literally!

It’s a lose lose situation for Reich really. Win and he’s out/lose and he’s out.

2 hours ago, falconlynx said:

Plays like a 3rd or 4th rounder. 

No he’s playing like a typical first round rookie.

57 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

I think most of it revolves around what expectations were. 2011 team although it had some good pieces, it was after the 2-14 Clausen season where the team actually played worse than their record. While they upgraded the offense, the defense was complete dog poo. 

This year, the front office tried to sell us on the team being good enough that just dropping a QB in would be enough to make this a playoff team after how well they played down the stretch. Then there is the whole trade up and trading away of assets to get there. 

But what people don’t remember is that this board was drenched with people that also complained that Cam just put up stats and doesn’t win games even in his record setting rookie season. As stupid as this sounds now, there were a lot of people spamming the boards and pointing at Andy Dalton making the playoffs his rookie year as evidence that we should have taken a defensive player first and then gotten him later. 
 

0 playoff wins Andy Dalton. People are idiots.

Bryce will be great. I was a doubter initially, but I see improvement every week. Some of the throws he made today were outstanding. I just wish we had better coaching and blocking.

39 minutes ago, Day1PanthersFan said:

I don't see it 

I see another Jimmy Clausen 

Jfc, did you watch Clausen?

Clausen had 3 tds and 9 int his rookie year. 52 completion percentage.

47 minutes ago, t96 said:

My only concern with him is the deep ball, he really doesn’t have an NFL deep ball arm, he may not need it but it’s an important weapon to have

60 air yards

He has the arm…

Bryce played well. I see him being a great qb eventually. Seriously.

Puff Daddy should have been the owner.

Sorry but pinero is not clutch.

We found our franchise qb

Make Steve Smith GM lol. Has he ever been wrong about a player?

12 minutes ago, Cdparr7 said:

Uh.. 

Just Steve Smith is game changer. Give me Smith, Olsen, Williams, Gross, Kalil,  and Stewart and we will still win 8 games with Randy Fasani at QB and Fewell coaching.

We pretty much had the same roster in 2010 minus Olsen.

This is 2012’s roster.

Bryce is improving 

Playing Dalton achieves nothing.

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Or they could just call it what it is and just play Dalton.

Playing Dalton is pointless at this point. 

Nice pass. Finally playing with some guts.

That might be his best throw as a pro.

5.1 yards per attempt 

Dumb challenge 

Bryce 250 yards 2 tds

Give it 7 years guys. Be patient.