CanadianCat

I listened to the presser and a few things stood out..

1. A lot of 'why weren't we doing this before' moments. But glad to see that they are. Actually Dan  Morgan sitting behind Fitt and seeing what went wrong may actually be a good thing. 

2. Canales talking about how he has never been in a pass rush meeting before but is now the HC at 1st rings some alarm bells but at the same time as a HC you dont need to be master of everything. Im a Project Manager IRL and you rely on your subject matter experts to handle their responsibilities and I like that he is eager to learn but trusts his staff. 

3. Getting the coaching staff and the scouts on the same page makes all the sense in the world. 

Canales seems so young and his giddy personality seems to reinforce that but I need to remind myself his a Pete Carrol descendant and if he can grow into that we have a helluva coach on our hands. 

15 hours ago, RumHam said:

Found Nicole

2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

I seriously can’t believe there are people who are actually defending Tepper in here 

good lord 

This wasn’t much of a secret about the play calling. Some of you can spin it anyway you want but as long as he owns this team we are f*cked.

And while we’re at it, Tepper was the one that didn’t let Scott trade Burns to the Rams for two 1st rounders 

Dude, this isn't an all or nothing conversation. Tepper can make good decisions AND bad ones. Both can be true, but I forgot this is the internet. My bad. 

1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I also give him credit for cutting his losses on Rhule and Reich when it was clear they weren't the answer.  That was millions of his dollars he was throwing away for a chance to get better.  

I think this is lost on most people. I like the Tepper is trying to make this thing work. I like that he takes big swings. I also like that money is not a reason to keep a bad coach. 

12 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

"That’s what made Panthers owner David Tepper and GM Scott Fitterer’s directive this past winter to new head coach Frank Reich worth discussing. They told Reich not to hire people he knew. They wanted the best coaches, not coaches who Reich could personally vouch for. That’s a massive difference."

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/03/22/panthers-coach-frank-reich-hiring-assistants-david-tepper

He was told not to hire people he was familiar with.  The same thing the Giants did with Dabboll and looked how it turned out...

Hire the right HC and let him decide who he wants on his staff.  Then it's easier to hold him accountable IMO.  We had a group of individuals with all different philosophies that went behind each others backs.  Like I said the good news is he let DC pick his guys this time. 

See I dont read that as he was FORBADE from hiring people he knew, more that he encouraged to make a broad search and if people he knew were the best then hire them, but make a broad search. 

Tepper is a business centric guy. The 'not allowing him' narrative doesn't make business sense.

I dont think Reich ever had a solid plan in mind on how to run the team, never mind find staff that supported that. 

12 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Everyone from Joe Person to Mel Kiper Jr to Chris Mortensen has us trading back. I guarantee you we will NOT trade back 

Thats cause its more exciting to mock a bigger name team trading with us then us just sticking and picking. DALLAS TRADES UP!! 'click'click'click'

12 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Cam is 100% spot on about Bryce needing to step up and tell the coaches and management what he needs to be successful. Game on the line, who do you want to throw to? Bryce does need to answer those questions and figure it out with his coordinators.

Well... good thing that we have a coach now that said he is looking for feedback from BY and wants to design an offence to his strengths. 

Im falling for it. Im here for the ride. 

LETS GOOOOO!!!

55 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Idk, we need to get really scientific here. Anybody have a waist up picture of him next to Mina Kimes?

You're right.. lets not get scientific.. So that said, these are his measurements. DUDES 8'5" Bruh!! (i tease)

24 minutes ago, Mistuh Jones said:

 ain't no way Rayzor LOL. Unless the camera was on the freaking ground hahaha

Camera was on the ground. Set at baseboard height. That said he looks massive.. 

16 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

I love the off-season. Every acts all big and bad and thinks we're going to win. It's like they forgot the team we just were last season. Sure we've added players, but we're still the same old Panthers. But every off-season ... every one. We get these high hopes. I love it.

You sound fun. 

1 hour ago, RumHam said:

While most are hoping to strike gold in the 2nd (which we did one time 25 years ago) houston now went from the worst in the league to the best. It all starts with tepper. They made a move happen and we still trotting out practice squad for Bryce, who wasnt the right pick. Chicago will be poised. Most teams in our position end up better, but not this franchise. What a joke.

Honestly the better trade was for Diontae Johnson. 

He has earned every dollar of his market value. 

No... I think its proven that there are a lot of talent in the 2nd round. Picking at the top of the 2nd also allows the entire front office the entire evening and next morning to evaluate the BPA or solicit trades.

Personally I would be looking for a trade partner that is not taking a position of need to move down a few spots to get more draft capital. 

We need quantity. 

15 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

https://x.com/josephperson/status/1628809476626055169?s=61&t=GQi76s6QPYbghkf3OPMywA

Quote 

Asked about the importance of re-signing D'Onta Foreman, Panthers asst. HC/RB coach Duce Staley said:

    "Super high for me -- but my last name ain't Fitterer."

Lol. A bit of tension in that room 

meh... i dont read too much into that. A coach and a GM are not always going to agree on players. Do we know that Fitt DIDNT offer him a contract?

16 hours ago, SOJA said:

Do you grade movies 10 minutes into the movie as well 

Typically after I see the trailer

5 hours ago, SOJA said:

really don't think you can grade it yet because you have no idea how this is going to look as a finished product. But for Vision and sticking to a plan I give them a B+. It's very clear we went into this offseason needing to upgrade the offensive line and talent around Bryce. 

Thus far we have done both and I highly suspect another WR is on the way in the draft 

SUCH a boring answer lol 

3 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

TMJ would be my top pick. He’s the furthest from his potential imo. 

I was soooo pumped when we drafted him. Basically everyone in the world thought we picked up a star... I havent given up hope yet... 

2 minutes ago, travisura said:

Icky.

Yeah... If Icky plays to that we have a hell of a unit. 

I think Horn WILL play to his potential this coming season. So given that if CJ Henderson could as well, we would have an unbelievable CB dual. 

Time to get some discussion going...

As the title says, (excluding Bryce) what player would you like to see play to their 'on paper' potential?

On 3/14/2024 at 9:15 AM, WUnderhill said:

Getting Shaq back will help. He hasn’t lived up to the expectations of typical Panthers first round LBs, but he’s a solid presence in the middle who can coordinate the D. From what I’ve read, one of Jewell’s strengths is also coordinating the D, so we should have some strong voices in the middle of the field calling the plays and getting everybody on the same page.

 

Shaq gets so much hate here its crazy....

Look at all the former 1st round players getting dumped right now. Shaq is not Luke or TD but he is a better 1st round LB than most teams have drafted. The dude is a stud. 

13 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Honestly, with a pro-quality offensive line, we might actually get what was advertised with Miles Sanders. As the video points out, Raheem Mostert was all world behind Hunt being himself arguably a mid-level RB.

Sanders just never had any gaps to run through. Hubbard stubbornly found yardage, and I'm excited to see how Mrs. Rhule's favorite does behind this line when he has actual lanes to pick through. But Sanders is just a season removed from being one of the league's leaders in all-purpose yards. Behind the line we are building, this could be his bounce-back season.

I really liked the Sanders pick up last year as a CMC-lite type move. I also watched a video about how Canales likes to use receiving backs out of the back field. 

Its only good for us if Sanders earns his way into that starting role.