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12 minutes ago, Growl said:

People are still evaluating QBs as if they are or are not “worth” a 1st round pick, when cost has become a huge consideration 

the broncos didn’t talk themselves into believing Bo nix was an elite prospect. They did come to the realization that a solid quarterback integrated into their offense, who is cost controlled is every bit as valuable as a defensive tackle they kinda like. In Payton’s case, he certainly believes he is qualified to maximize Nix

an insider with a comment made by an nfl executive said it best: there is no longer a middle class for QBs.

The idea that first round QBs should be transformative is an outsiders take, but cost comprises a huge part of value for teams and rookie contract QBs are highly valuable 

that isn’t to say teams are enslaved to the salary cap, they definitely aren’t and that’s been proven over and again, buts it’s these elements that make it so malleable. 
 

at least that’s a line of thinking prevalent in the league right now 

The rookie wage scale changed the risk/reward analysis big time. QB is by FAR the most valuable position. So if youu don't have a franchise QB and you think there's a guy on the board who might be able to develop into one and you're protected from having to pay him big money you almost have to take him. That combined with the league emphasizing offense with practically every rule tweak is why we're seeing guys who in years past would've probably been 2nd round picks going in the top half of the 1st.

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

How is Legette better than Mingo & TMJ? There's a good chance he doesn't even beat them out in camp.

I sure as hell hope he's better than them. Hell, I wouldn't bet any money on TMJ being on the final roster.

Pretty wild for 6 QBs to go in the top 12 then zero from picks 13 though 100.

Definitely reinforces the notion that there was a huge drop off after the first six. I just thought we'd see a decent drop off after the first four. I figured Nix and Penix would go somewhere between the late first and the end of the second. Definitely didn't see either in the top half of the first.

Sanders or Stover at TE

Booker or Kamara at EDGE

Limmer at C

Franklin, Rice, Washington, or Walker at WR

Carson at CB

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I don’t see evidence he’s THAT heavy handed.

This seems like a process Dan and Fitt created together with the scouts based on their own preferences.

One thing is for sure. It’s definitely not coming from the coaches.

It's possible. But he's definitely heavy handed. Hell, he doesn't even try to hide it. He'll tell anyone who'll listen that he has veto power on these decisions.

That's a really good landing spot for Wilson. Pittsburgh knows LBs.

3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Man, what did Troy Franklin do wrong here.  Guy has track speed and was ridiculous last season.  Somebody is getting a deep threat steal with him 

He's a definite possibility.

It's Tez Walker.

There went my RAS king. I'll have to revise my #101 prediction.

1 minute ago, The Natural said:

Wilson slide continues... What do you huddlers know that NFL GM's don't?

He's probably been red flagged by a lot of teams due to medicals. Understandably.

Just now, Panthercougar68 said:

What does the acl have to do with anything? This isn’t 2005 and ACL rehab is nothing like an Achilles.

Tell that to KB. Yeah, ACL recovery has improved dramatically in recent years but it's still a major injury and not all guys bounce back from it.

4 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Decision maker is just one part of it.

The entire process is the same. From RAS scores to chasing specific players.

Really discouraging that Dan still thinks this approach works.

I think you missed what I was getting at.

It's this guy.

He's either literally making the decisions or dominating the decision making process in terms of weighting the evaluation metrics because we're making the exact same types of picks.

7 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Like Brooks and Chuba are different runners…interesting 

So far the Brooks pick is our best draft pick. Let that sink in. A RB coming off an ACL is our best pick so far.

We might see a double dip with our next pick if he lasts.

1 minute ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Rams just took a RB after Williams had a good year.

Very different runners. Corum will give them a much more physical runner to pair with Williams.

This honestly feels like another Fitterer draft. Probably because it might as well be. I don't think the decision maker has actually changed.

6 minutes ago, Silent Majority said:

Payton Wilson is glass. I am a Pack fan. He gets hurt literally every game. In the league he will be on IR more than Horn. Trust. Love the guy, but it's just the reality.

He definitely has a very concerning injury history, that's for sure. He's a helluva player though. I'll give him that.

3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

Wow, that is a surprise. Maybe they really are afraid of Peyton Wilson's injury history 

 

Wilson or Gray are both significantly better LBs and I'm not just saying that because they're local prospects. I'm saying it because they're better LBs.

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I fugg'n hate this scouting department!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You too can be a Carolina Panthers scout. Just look at our positions of need and see who has the highest RAS of the available players. That's your pick.

Another RAS obsession pick.

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Could be and I would love it. 

Did we meet with him? I can't remember any TE other than Wiley meeting with us.

Yes.

Just now, Shocker said:

Cedric Gray was Carolina’s best defender by a mile.  He is very talented 

He's a good LB but being Carolina's best defender in recent years is kinda like being the best post-Cam Panthers QB. It ain't saying much.

I think it's gonna be Ja'Tavion Sanders. We're gonna try to do everything we can to give Bryce a fair evaluation this year.

This band entertainment is maximum boomer. What is this poo? Send them back to the cruise ship they escaped from.

Goodell hides behind a woman to avoid the boos. LOL