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Suddenly the division is very gettable

20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Exactly. This team cannot win a shootout with the Bills. Josh will get his on our defense. We just have to limit his time on the field. That's going to rely on our run game. If Andy throws multiple picks we do not have a chance. 

The Bills are statistically worse in every way on offense to the Cowboys, and about equal to the Cowboys defense, and we just won a shootout against the Cowboys

My fear with Dalton is he is incredibly immobile in the pocket, and he cannot buy time like Bryce has to make those clutch throws. Hate on Bryce all you want, but he is pretty good at extending plays and making 4th down conversions. Andy is more “if the throw isn’t there in the first 1.5 seconds, it’s an incompletion or sack” type of QB. 

30 minutes ago, Dilla said:

I think they'll split the middle with competition. I'm fairly confident that Carolina drafts another QB next year. But not in the 1st round, but like a good measurables guy in the 3rd-5th rounds. That way, they bring in another young guy, but a mid round pick won't effect any 1st round decisions for 2027.

I hope not. 3rd-5th round QB's are historically awful. Most of the time that team is just drafting another QB in the first the following year. Look at the Saints, if they continue to suck this year they are just taking a QB. And if they do they just threw away a 2nd round pick that they just drafted. We did the same poo with Clausen, Greer, Pike, that guy we drafted a few years ago who is so irrelevant I forgot his name... 

Just take a 1st round QB if Bryce isn't the answer and be prepared to live with it

36 minutes ago, App Panther said:

I get that. I’m just not convinced we are going to find someone mid season to make us better.

Yes, we could probably find a more better physical specimen at the position. At what cost though? Losing a locker-room? Bryce seems pretty popular and a team leader. A move like that will sour alot of the chemistry that this team finally appears to have, perhaps thanks to Bryce? 
 

Let me be clear I’m not a Bryce defender.  I think his best case is a game manager that only succeeds on teams whose identity is an elite defense and a power run game. I think he’s played good enough though to keep moving this season forward with him. 

There are people on this forum that just want to see a lot of passing yards....number go up. That's all it is, really. They are thirsting for a 350-400 yard game.

The idea that Jameis Winston is going to come in and play like a star and lead us to wins is ludacris. He's the 3rd fuging string for a 2-5 team and has played horrible for years now. Sure, passing numbers will go up but you'll also get a lot of dumb plays, pick 6's, and incompletions en route to a frustrating bad offensive performance, just in a different way.

I think these people are yearning for another Delhomme situation, and the odds of that happening are very very slim. It's way more likely Howell or Jameis comes in and looks like Jack Plummer or Andy Dalton did in the preseason. There just isn't that much good quarterbacking in this league right now. And if we draft another QB in the first round, there is a good chance they bust. It's not a guaranteed carrot.

The reality is, as mediocre as Bryce has been, the risk of bringing someone else in in-season and releasing Bryce becuase you aren't happy with his current performance is staggeringly high. Don't want to re-up his contract and search for a solution in the offseason? Sure, I'm on board. Bryce hasn't been good enough to warrant a second contract. But It is very. very unlikely that bringing someone else in midseason is going to give this team more wins.

33 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Any Bryce defender on the coaching staff or in the front office is going to be secretly rooting for us to get utterly destroyed if he is out for the game.

The worst case scenario for any of them who still want to be starting Bryce is for it to be like when Dalton came in for him his rookie year.  If he comes in and lights it up and we look like a real life NFL passing offense, it's going to be really tough to still sell Bryce to the fans or other players.

Exactly zero people on the coaching staff or front office are hoping the Panthers get utterly destroyed. This is why people can't take the constant Bryce bashing seriously. Get a clue

10 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

I wouldn't give up a Day 1 or Day 2 pick to acquire a QB this season or the next. But, I'd wouldn't hesitate at all to part with a Day 3 pick (rounds 4-7) to acquire a serviceable QB wasting his career sitting on another teams bench if I believed he had the potential:

1) to complete 65%of his passes

2) Minimize turnovers

3) threaten all 3 levels of the defense

4) eclipse 200 yards passing on a regular basis.

So, you want to trade for a top 8 pro-bowl level QB with a day 3 pick. Got it

If only it were that easy amirite

Green Bay looks very beatable, and is frankly pretty disappointing. Would be really nice to get one win out of the next 2 games, but with Dalton we have zero chance

4 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Honestly he can be impressive off script.  I'd say his best plays have been when he's flushed but doesn't give up.

Last year it felt like he'd frequently get 20 yard completions that way. Feels a lot less common this ye

This year he has reverted to panicking in the pocket, whereas the Philly, KC, Atlanta, Tampa games last year he was much more pocket aware didn't panic when something went wrong, and moved out and escaped pressure. It's my #1 thing I hate about a QB, and why I hated Darnold when he was here (Darnold has been much better since leaving)

He's good at plays like the TD to Legette to go up 10-3.. Dalton couldn't pull something like that off.  And he's been pretty good at 4th down throws in his career, like the one to Renfrow last week. But his inability to want to throw downfield coupled with the fact that the NFL meta is to have a QB that can pick up a few yards on the ground in 3rd and 4th and 1 will be his downfall

I was hoping he would be more Mushin, but he reminds me so much of Funchess. His speed hasn't translated to the NFL game yet. He can't catch with his hands yet, he also doesn't trust his hands so he jumps up to body catch which means he can't accumulate YAC. He is a little herky/jerky on the field. The problem is he's already 24, so he's behind the 8-ball. But yes, I applaud him focusing, blocking, and getting better these last few weeks. Because Week 1 he was horrendous.

If you laughed at Fields today, Hooker is Fields without the rushing ability. You cannot be serious about putting Hooker in, its an instant lose every time

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Because we've played 3 of the worst teams in the entire league the past 3 weeks.

The Jets and Dolphins literally might be the 31st and 32nd best teams in the league, while the Cowboys have literally the worst defense in the NFL.

And we just eked by with wins in each of those games, if you actually think that's showing growth, then I don't know what to say.

We also beat one of the best (statistically) teams in the league 30-0. Why didn't you mention that?

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Where?

There will be a post or thread completely unrelated to Bryce, and you interject and say "doesn't matter Bryce sucks I'm not watching" and then argue with people who respond to you, its a cycle. I don't think Bryce is the answer either, but exhausting trying to read this forum

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Why are you quoting me about this?

Lets be honest, you do this lol

I really can't believe the Jets just punted there. Glenn will be 1 and done

Jets can only win this game if they put in Tyrod. Fields is completely broken

Holy poop the Jets are so scared of the run, they are biting hard

We cannot lose to this QB. We just can't. If Canales wants to be a serious coach, you can't lose this game

If Rico comes out hot this next drive, I think you just have to tell Chuba...sorry

Not only this audio, but I love how Fox forces 720p resolution for local games in the year 2025

Trevor was hyped as the next Peyton Manning. He is really bad. Jacksonville is locked into him, no? They should look into drafting a QB in the 1st and let them sit behind Trevor or a year or two then dump him

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Renfrow has really looked less than stellar. Hopefully he will get progressively back into NFL shape and look better in 2026. 

Right now he has been very underwhelming.

INB4 @CRA getting triggered. 

CRA doesn't open game day threads, only Bryce Young threads... I think he gets alerts on his phone whenever a new thread about Bryce is mentioned, so he can drop everything and post 

4 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/josephperson/status/1979935246142349442?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA

Doesn't surprise me, Renfrow looks physically weak and slow out there. He needs a full season of sitting and training, hopefully he continues to work at it and not retire

3 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

Yep

but

’panthers are gonna Panthers”

if they lose to the Jets, and pitiful or not, then jets are a pro team, this place will lose its collective minds …mine included 

There are some prominent posters here that are openly hoping we lose for draft positioning even though its week 7

Tremayne got a shout out on McAfee show this morning for his excellent run blocking. The WR's have really stepped up in that regard.