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    Stop scapegoating passing game's failures on the receivers

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    One point I have heard made  by several analysts that may have relevancy

    McMillian and Legette are both high pointers catching  the ball and both had  little separation in their college careers and that continues to the nfl 

    this Qb, however, requires separation and in college traditionally had receivers who could get open

    Ole Adam knew how to get open …I’ll say that for him…or comeback to the qb when he was in trouble 

     

     

     

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    Canales is telling us, but we aren’t listening

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    19 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

    He has lost them because people already felt the need to blabber about this to the press.

    Lack of culture.

    I think the thing that struck me is it was ickey as one of the ones who spoke out 

    ickey never speaks out 

    my god, ickey lived through Rhule And Reich and his second year with Canales and never heard a peep 

    it really makes me wonder who they were addressing…..was it Young  ?

    With ickey talking it had to be someone on offense   I don’t suspect the line or rbs as they are all vets.  That leaves qb1 and wrs

    …and also offense is DC’s side of the ball

    one of the best things that could happen is getting a true OC IN not Izik and have DC be strictly a HC

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    Cox and Lea excellent panthers playbook podcast Canales and Young

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    Posted · Edited by raleigh-panther

    13 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

    I've said it before but he's smart in knowing anticipation within a play's design, but he can't see the live-field to properly layer a throw. 

    So many issues..

    -Slow, shallow drops that restrict sight lines

    -Because of this, he can't see the field and gets swallowed up even when an OL holds up

    -So then he bails when he doesn't need to, and can't properly survey

    -And also can't put the touch on intermediates enough to produce YAC.

    Smitty would've gone ham on him if he was catching his balls.  Probably gotten a few black eyes in practice already.  McMillan was even looking visibly frustrated the past two games.  The kid doesn't have it. It's over.  It really is. 

    We've given him so much time for how bad he's been.  Far longer than Zach Wilson or Josh Rosen at this stage.  

    and edit:

    Someone else mentioned it but Cam told us who he was that first drive first game.  I think Bryce did as well, just the complete opposite of the spectrum.  I cannot wait for a guy to just be able to push downfield again.  We have weapons to do it with.  

    I have never seen a qb so lackadaisical getting to the line, getting the ball snapped, doing something with it after the snap

    Everything he does  is slow motion 

    …it is like he just woke up from a nap on the sofa in his parents’ basement after playing video games 

    no urgency whatsoever.  

    I do not think he could throw before the receivers cut if his very life depended on it 

    perhaps the national criticism this week will light a fire under his happy little ass

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    Must win game

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    I’m not buying any hype anymore

    this team is too young to understand your biggest game are division games

    ..and the coaching staff doesn’t know how to get their heads on straight for that situation 

    i got nothing 

    if they think they arrived because the Packers played down to their competition, I got nothing..particularly for a qb who contributes less than 150 per game

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    Cox and Lea excellent panthers playbook podcast Canales and Young

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    my brief summation.  
    1. Who is it that was lackadaisical?  Was it Young  Ickey was referring to

    2.  Canales continues to say the ‘me to connection ; ie qb to receivers is failing 

    3.  Young a great guy but not right as starter for the panthers   However, after 2.5 years,  too much bad play and too much inconsistency with a stable coaching staff and weapons References Mark Schlerth’s  comments… Young  couldn’t complete passes downfield    

    4. Mentions failures with Young due to Tepper in 2023  possibly did damage to Young    Maybe young needs a fresh start   So do the Panthers    wants to see Canales getting a 3rd year with his chosen QB   Cox counters, Maye had a bad situation in his rookie year but excelled this year 

    5. Discussed Young’s data on metric of ‘catchable pass rate’  the metric shows

             A.   Young fails on catchable passes other than 0 to 9 yards 

              B.  McMillan is most effective 10 to 19  as one example, of WRs not being allowed to be at their best yardage 

               C     all 22 shows Legette is open a lot and ignored 

    6. Lea discusses the impact of losing Thielen on Young I.e. given young’s comfort with short passes, young misses Thielen   Young is starting to replace Adam with Jatevon  Sanders and he makes the decision before the snap to go to him regardless 

     

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    Canales is telling us, but we aren’t listening

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    Canales is not helping the situation    I have absolutely had it   

    1. Injured guards and a rotating line,  ok,   go max protect vs empty backfield  help them …including a TE in the backfield if needed  you are where you are.

    2. There is zero imagination in any of this offense..,zero.  There is no rule that says you can’t have both Rico, Chuba  or start a TE  in the backfield at the same time with only 2 wide receivers 

    3. The WR line up is not working.   Change it.   he keeps trotting the same lineup out there that has  not worked     I don’t give a poo what they do in practice.  Game day results is what  matters   Dropped passes…bad routes..sit them down  put in Moore if you need to   Don’t care   Find a possession receiver not named McMillan 

    4  TE  Lineup is non existent in pass offense.   Change it.  Sanders ain’t it  period, end of story… drops   no,YAC   He would be 3rd string on any other team   Put the older  veteran out there with Tommy or Mitch

    5. For the love of god, this is pro football, find 2 pass plays over 10 yards your QB can throw consistently and do it  and do it from a running set     If he can’t do the minimum, find someone else   or maybe, just maybe, the minimum, with less to think about  gets his head straight 

         Ps  when you need 7 yards, don’t ask him to throw it 30 to the end zone, you know he can’t   You’ve admitted it 

    6  your qb is not a pocket passer   Accept it, just like you did with Baker   Move him

    7. Personnel.  If you execute, you play.  If you don’t, you sit   Too many dropped passes by all of them.   Pro football requires execution 

    The full  team will quit on Canales if he, who is the OC and HC, can’t fix the area he is supposed to be a ‘guru’ and ‘whisperer’ for and I don’t blame them

    /end rant

     

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