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2 hours ago, Anybodyhome said:
The most productive the Panther offense has been was the 37-27 loss to Seattle. Oh yeah, Dalton played that game. Oh yeah, that was Week 3.
The Panthers and Bryce Young haven't come close to matching the relative success of that game, yet Bryce Young is still trotting out there every week. This leads me to ask a simple question:
Is it the goal of the Panthers to attempt to develop a QB with limited athletic and physical talent or, is it the goal of the team to win games. Because, if we're being honest and going back to the words of both John Fox and Ron Rivera, who gives the team the best opportunity to win?
Its about ‘developing Bryce’
Tepper could give a poo about the fans. The other players. The coaches
he wants his boy scout to be something he cant be He doesn't have the physical tools
i go back to bill Parcells quote on young when asked about his outlier size
‘He better walk on water’
and as we see, there aint no water walking
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2 hours ago, csx said:
and a first round pick and a few second rounders
While aknowleging how badly the Panthers blew this it can't be overooked that the majority of our community was just as horribly wrong about these QBs
As were many pro scouts and our own talent evaluators …or perhaps the only talent evaluator, our owner and his compadre, the GM who wanted to relive Russell Wilson
they wanted a boy scout, the anti Cam …they got mini mouse, not mighty mouse
i wanted AR because what i saw of him cant be taught. He could've hidden a lot of deficiencies until they were fixed
he also can throw a long ball, run, and egads, get a yard on a qb sneak
…Then Stroud
i did not want Bryce
i hoped for the best and in typical Panthers fashion, if it can be fuged up, they do it
there is no fixing this. There needs to be a perfect situation for him
if im the new GM and coach, i bring in a veteran if Dalton cant be signed Young has six games next year to prove he belongs
how would you like to play on a pro team with a QB who cant hit a sideline pass or misses a wide open receiver in a year loke this
…your incentives have zero chance if happening Nfl careers are short
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1 hour ago, jayboogieman said:
Watched this earlier today
he is spot on … one mistake by many players equals a preponderance of failure Over and over again …every week.
ian Thomas would never see the field again if it is true he is the one who blew the assignment on the punt
Remember. Ole Fitterer gave Ian another contract. Mind blowing
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2 hours ago, Shotgun said:
Yep, it’s so toxic to keep starting a player who gives you no chance to win and worse than the backup. Everyone in the building knows it and it’s ruining this franchise. Get young the fug off the field!
I swear, sometimes the WRs’ errors and drops, along with the oline in pass protection, it’s almost like they are doing it on purpose
These players know garbage when they see it be it scheme or leaders and they know with this kid they have zero chance of getting their contract incentives
Chark won’t be back and wants out…Theilen hasn’t exactly been dazzling since the Reich firing
I go back to Dalton in Seattle…the scheme and WRs and OL didn't look nearly as tragic as they do …think if they had stayed with that power running game plus Dalton…this is at least an 8 win team
i still don’t know how Bryce got that C on his jersey.
Honestly, how can you draft a nfl qb that can’t sneak a ball for 3 feet or throw a sideline pass….it is simply mind boggling
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8 minutes ago, 4Corners said:
You’re wife whining about how much you hate your job, and how bad your job is ….terrible look. Guy is being paid a lot of money to call for an empty backfield on 4th and one and basically put on a three play clinic on what not to do on the one yard line.
zero accountability and his wife makes him look like a little bitch mama’s boy. I bet she is gonna say she was hacked.
She just told the truth
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28 minutes ago, mc52beast said:
Which just tells me that we will get another has been HC who will bring some has been coordinators because nobody with options will want to work for Tepper… this franchise is doomed.
Worse
you will get Kellen
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How to lose a football game? Let the 1-12 Panthers count the ways, this time to Saints
BY SCOTT FOWLER
1 hour ago
Perhaps we’ve been looking at these Carolina Panthers all wrong. Perhaps rather than ridiculing them for their NFL-worst 1-12 record, we should praise them for the inventive ways they find to lose each Sunday.
The Panthers’ creativity in capitulating each week?! It’s extraordinary. The latest example came Sunday, as Carolina managed to arrange another array of mistakes into a 28-6 road loss to the New Orleans Saints.
Coaching decisions. Player errors. Roster-building miscalculations. It was all on juicy display in this one, as the Panthers showed once again that the quick hook owner David Tepper gave to former head coach Frank Reich after only 11 games has only served to make things worse. The InTeptitude of this franchise, once again, knew no bounds.
Six points represented the Panthers’ worst output of the season, which is saying something given this team’s frailties. The Panthers’ 22-point margin of defeat was their second-worst of the season, trailing only the 23-point defeat to Dallas. The difference is that Dallas is a legitimately good team and the Saints (6-7) aren’t — the New Orleans offense was routinely booed in its home stadium Sunday. After three quarters, Carolina had doubled up the Saints in yardage — 238-119.
And still, the Panthers lost by 22. That’s hard to do.
Rather than write much about the game’s play-by-play, let me just give you four snapshots:
▪ Running the ball well all afternoon (Carolina had 204 rushing yards), the Panthers had a key fourth-and-1 on the New Orleans 36. At the time, Carolina was only down 14-6 midway through the fourth quarter. What do the Panthers, and presumably offensive coordinator Thomas Brown, call here?
An empty-backfield, five-receiver pass play.
Why?
Bryce Young and the passing game was completely out of sync 95% of the afternoon. Not surprisingly, intended receiver Raheem Blackshear fell down, the ball fell incomplete and Carolina whiffed on the opportunity. Run the dang ball!
▪ Interim head coach Chris Tabor is a Tepper favorite who used to be the team’s special teams coordinator. You’d think his promotion after Reich’s firing would mean the special teams is one area the Panthers can count on, right? Wrong.
Carolina’s punt protection team managed to leave a Saint completely unblocked on one Johnny Hekker punt, so much so that the ball was practically taken off Hekker’s foot and didn’t even count as a blocked punt because it happened so fast. Instead, it was technically a fumble, one that New Orleans returned for an 8-yard touchdown (and got Hekker hurt, to boot).
“A man didn’t go out and block the guy he was supposed to,” Tabor said of the play later. “So that’s a mistake that obviously cannot happen.”
* After running back Miles Sanders broke his best run of the year — a 48-yard run to the New Orleans 1 — Carolina managed to turn that first-and-goal from the 1 into a fourth-and-goal from the New Orleans 11 with two straight negative-yardage plays. The Panthers had to settle for a field goal.
▪ At halftime, Young’s passing stats sounded like something from a middle school wishbone team: 3-for-15, for 28 yards, along with a lost fumble. He ended up 13-for-36 for a paltry 137 yards and zero TDs or interceptions.
This wasn’t all on Young — as usual, there were dropped passes, poor route-running and so on, too. But Young also managed to miss fellow rookie Jonathan Mingo on a deep pass when Mingo had worked his way free and would have scored easily.
Lack of execution, especially for myself,” Young said. “I missed a lot of things.”
There’s more, but you get the idea.
“Everything’s frustrating right now, if I can be completely honest,” said Tabor, who has four more games to go as interim coach before Tepper hires someone else. When Tepper does, he will be employing what will be his seventh NFL head coach in Charlotte (including interim coaches) since he bought the team in 2018. In Tepper’s 95 total games as the Panthers’ owner, the team has had six straight losing seasons, never made the playoffs and is 30-65 overall. It’s been ugly.
So the Panthers, as everyone knows, need a — well, another — major overhaul.
But in terms of creativity, and losing games in new ways each week? In that way, the Panthers are actually underrated.
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Just now, scpanther22 said:
Bryce has the kind of personality that very rich people like for people to have that work for them
Or more succinctly… the ‘anti’ Cam
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16 minutes ago, jopie87 said:
Dude is going to make a really good offensive coordinator one day. Kellen Moore style career coming up.
Yep
cowboys look better since he is gone
chargers look worse
come on down Kellen
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47 minutes ago, Byrdman4real said:
I really don't think they practice deep balls. I really don't think they practice in game situations also, because the decision making is complete trash. Bad timing plays, bad route concepts, bad blocking assignments, no creativity, no play calling to setup defensive bus plays, no end-around, no come-backs. This scheme is trash, coaching trash, players trash, front office trash.
What do they practice
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22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:
From Panthers.com...
So what happened? Fitterer beamed while he told a story from dinner with Young when he fielded a question from the Panthers' contingent about his practice habits and weekly process. Fitterer said Young spoke with the kind of detail you can't make up, estimating his Sunday-to-Tuesday exposition took about 10 minutes.
Young earnestly grinned when asked about the conversation in a press conference following his selection, saying that his weekly planning process was "a little bit long-winded of an answer; I'll save everyone from having to sit through that."
But Reich, Fitterer, and Tepper didn't seem to mind it. In fact, that "long-winded" answer turned out to be a big plus.
"At one point, Scott and I and Mr. Tepper kind of made eye contact, like, 'This is crazy,'" Reich said. "He got into how he was studying the film, and some of the things he said about that. I looked at Mr. Tepper; he looked at Scott. It was like, this is next-level stuff.
"And listen, we've all been around, and we've all heard good stuff. The other guys said good stuff too. But this was just at a level that was different."
fuging idiots
thats as eloquent as I can say it
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20 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:
It's so obvious but the copers just don't want to admit it.
Deep out? Nope. That's a pick six. Anything over 20 yards? Can't be in the playbook.
You are running a VERY limited passing playbook with Bryce. You're effectively turning the entire field into a redzone offense.
And not just passing. Apparently can never run a qb sneak again
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20 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:
Why in your mind does Field get the benefit of having a team built to help him but Bryce does not?
Lol
he carried the bears last year. They are putrid. Fields too, has been through 2 HCs
Physically, he is what a nfl qb should be
young is not
as Parcells said about young and his physical limitations ‘he better walk on water’. He doesn’t
if you can’t put a nfl qb under center for 1 yard, you got problems His size, lack of arm strength etc alone eliminated parts of the playbook and that, you cannot have in the nfl
and he can’t hit a sideline route to save his very soul …there is a reason why so many ‘in’ routes are designed for him
he's a nice kid I’m sure and good to his momma and all, but none of that matters at the pro level
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1 minute ago, MGH1989 said:
Wait, the guy that has been bad enough to earned his team the number 1 pick last year and is only starting to look better with better talent around him. You don't say, maybe we should do the same with this QB, or is he not allowed time like Fields?
Fields at least can be put under center on a 4th and 1
he can also throw touchdown passes
tell me about young again ?
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Justin fields is having a nice day
couldabeen a Panther but nooooo
we have a midget that can’t sneak in 4th and 1
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1 minute ago, jopie87 said:
I'm not sure I could be a player on this defense and not be flipping poo over on the sidelines. They've given up 7 points. They've given up less than 50 passing yards. And the game is not winnable because the offense couldn't score with a prostitute on prom night.
Sadly truth
thanks for the laugh
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1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:
Except he made these plays routinely in college. You can say that was college but it’s still football.
World of difference
you know this and you know why
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Wide open miss
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Just now, MGH1989 said:
Another Bryce drop
You don’t get it do you
teams with qbs not midgets, put the qb under center and get that first down
never mind the dymbass coordinator should’ve put him u dear center and handed off to Chubba
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So so bad
so bad
play calls
to excution
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Andy Dalton plays, the Panthers win this game
winning, apparently isn’t the goal
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4 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:
I have no earthly clue why they still insist on running Sanders. Reich and Staley are gone.
Because the GM gave him a hefty contract
we wouldn’t want Scotty to look bad, would we
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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:
Two straight shots downfield? Is that actual good playcalling or are you just trying to say something?
He is trying to say young is inaccurate on longer
passes …unless out of bounds is a receiver
Monday Night Recap: Good night for the rookies…Tommy DeVito and Will Levis each get their third wins of the season
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Posted · Edited by raleigh-panther
You….are exactly right…
the nice boy, the anti Cam
thought were getting a brainiac, outlier Mighty Mouse
….what they really got was Minnie