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15 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I'm not a diehard fan. I'm an insane Panthers fan because I keep watching their games and expect a win, but they just keep losing. 

Same

4 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.

lol 

fear not, I’m sure they will rise like a phoenix from the ashes at the most in opportune time

probably this weekend as I started Atlanta’s defense in FF

Like Stephen A Smith said  in Reply to smitty’s comment about how the team was treated during the 1 and 15 year vs the Super Bowl year

paraphrased ‘yawl lost 15 straight games…you won the first one and then lost the rest of sept, all of oct, all of nov, all of Dec.  what did you expect’ 

I had season tickets…that year with Siefert and Weinke was very rough 

in support the team reality is fans pay, players get paid.  Even not going to games, paying for tv subscriptions and gear

Quite honestly, if any of us did our jobs as poorly as some of these professionals do, we would be fired

Truth    

We will see by Sunday at 415pm Eastern 

i dont believe 

zero for six on the final drive last week, so in that category of turning it on in garbage time

The first few mins of this podcast is agreeing with Cam.  The rest is failure of XL to sell his route but also the stacked WR sets calked by Canales

Really good viewpoint at 8mins and 32 seconds of this 11 min video on what is problematic with XL stopping on an option route   

Canales isnt doing the offense any favors either    not impressed but really no option 

..but Brad Izik calling plays.  The thing he foes best is be Dave’s buddy 

I miss Cam

he told the truth

his comments about Steve Smith, also truth

3 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Yup.

1 completion beyond 20 yards and only 3 past 15 yards. That's in 77 attempts.

I'm not one that thinks Bryce needs to hit 40 yard passes but with how defenses play us he needs to push the ball a bit further down field.

Wow

just wow 

1 hour ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Legette and luxury have no business in the same sentence with each other.

Lol

 That is Bryce.  He is ‘super’ excited to play with his ’ super’ talented ‘luxury’ WR

Bryce is a ‘super’ kinda guy

At this point, all the ‘what aboutism’ from the OP isn’t going to change what Young was,  is or will be 

the reasons why the Panthers need  move on from Young have been talked about ad nauseam

There are 31 other starting  QBs in the NFL other than Young

id take anyone of them over Young plus a few backups 

ive used this quote before.  When Bill Parcells was told of Young’s size, and he was going to be number 1 overall, he said

’he better be able to walk on water’

I haven’t seen a whole lot of ‘water walking ‘

It would be nice to have a QB that the justification for keeping him  or not every single week was not necessary

…Going into year 3 of this

a qb that can stretch the field, that doesnt  throw hospital balls, that steps on the field and isnt cringeworthy, that gives hope instead of dread

On 9/15/2025 at 4:38 PM, Johnstonny said:

Looked like every play that possession receivers were going deep... Line couldn't hold for them to come close to getting open... Line collapses Bryce happy feet and the rest is history...what happened to working the sidelines with one time out left. They tried to get everything on every play it seemed in a panic.

Because Canales seemed  to think he had Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes back there with Mike Evans still catching the ball for him 

he and Young are drastically mismatched 

…and that is part of the problem 

young will never be what canales wants and needs for  his offensive playbook 

canales failed in 2 min drill as much ad Young and the team did 

they looked like they had never done a 2 min drill in their  football lives at any level

i feel really bad for the fans, if there are any left, of this team and the PSL holders.   

15 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Did somebody from the Huddle call in on the show?

Side note: Bryce's stats in close 1 score games are hard to look at. 

 

At 5 mins  and 38 seconds 

analysis of bryce’s performance within one score (you know,  when it matters)

Passing   9 of 16 for 61 yards

1 sack fumble returned fir a TD

1 Interception  thrown

1 sack  fumble   taken away due to defensive penalty

game ending sack

that’s our qb when it matters 

On 9/14/2025 at 6:05 PM, toldozer said:

He ain't 190 pounds get fuging real

He is going by the combine which im sure the panthers use in their propaganda still

lot of rumors of how he got to that weight 

11 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

Yeah, Smitty is talking as an announcer. Would Smitty have said that if he was playing on the same team as XL and watched XL kill a drive because he couldn’t drag his toe on the third step? I don’t think so.

Smith would’ve beat him up

great player.  Troubled human

Mr Rogers aka Dave  lol

NFL is a production league

best players  should  play 

the NFL is also the ‘not for long’ league and out of it  is where Dave is going to find himself 

he needs to find something this team can do consistently…if anything 

22 hours ago, MRenshaw said:

It's ironic that the Panthers have a mouse playing QB.

And Minnie Mouse at that

18 hours ago, The Lobo said:

I really hope you’re right, but the teppers love Bryce. 

Love can be fleeting ……….

smile

34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I want to see the All 22 footage of that final "drive".

Are you sure lol

once was probably enough as this is the vast of characters this grade B movie is stuck with 

Well…when a qb has no arm for a pass over 20  yards, this is what happens 

The day this guy  didn't throw at the combine and stroud did, should've ended  it

im no leggett fan but the fuger had straight line speed supposedly, when has ever been sent on a straight go route.  ?
 

Yes i know he drops passes but even a stopped watch is right twice a day.  
 

He might get lucky and it would  at least give a threat to move defenders off the line

 They  drafted horn for the same reason. He is inactive  

the panthers will never be more  than  they are right now with Young   Not going to happen 

12 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Frankly, at this point my take on Canales is probably the same as my take on Bryce.

He might be a better assistant than head coach.

I agree with this

Not sure  what he is

his play calls were poor through most of the game

his 2 min drill, atrociously unrecognizable 

now who knows how much of that is due to bryce limitations

he also loves to call timeouts in situations that only helps the other teams’ offense be better prepared to score.  It is maddening  

And all the rest 

i believe, could be wrong, that OL coach from last year, left the Panthers for the Jags and it shows    Plus Corbett with his injury  history had no business starting much  less at center 

canales, never has the answers and there is a time to be Mr Rogers a d a time not to be on dealing with grown  men playing at the nfl level

Scott Fowler from observer   An excerpt  from larger article

gotta say, i am not sure what Canales or Young were  thinking in the final 2 mins  they both looked like they have never a 2 mon drill in their lives    Unprepared   Let’s just throw and hope was the strategy 

Add to it,why leggett, the most unreliable receiver, was targeted so much during that drive is beyond me 

With a chance to be unforgettable, Panthers’ final drive was one to forget

BY SCOTT FOWLER

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4 hrs ago

The Carolina Panthers lost again Sunday, 27-22 to Arizona, but let’s at least give them some credit for their heartbreaking creativity.

This, at least, was not a rout like Week 1. Yes, the Panthers (0-2) did a whole lot of nothing through the beginning of the third quarter against Arizona (2-0), falling behind, 27-3.

Then they did a whole lot of something, scoring 19 unanswered points under the direction of quarterback Bryce Young. Then the special teams recovered an onside kick by punter Sam Martin to, quite remarkably, get the ball back, down only 27-22 with 1:55 and 51 yards left to snag the win. And one timeout, too.

After finishing three straight possessions with touchdowns, the Panthers would need to do it a fourth time to pull off what statistically would have been the largest comeback in franchise history.

But while there was no quit in this team Sunday, there was no comeback either, and nothing but nonsense in that last “march,” which ended 46 yards away from the goal line.

Let’s go through a little of that final drive for the Panthers, shall we?

Young, who had played a horrible first quarter and then a terrific second half, reverted to first-quarter form. He was 0-for-6 on the drive. He only targeted Tetairoa McMillan, the rookie that is clearly the team’s best receiver, one time. When all else was failing, the option of throwing a jump ball to T-Mac — drafted No. 8 overall for exactly this sort of situation — should have been utilized. It wasn’t. Head coach Dave Canales suggested that the Cardinals started shifting their coverage toward McMillan.

Said the rookie afterward to reporters when asked what the Cardinals did to limit him on the last drive: “I’m not too sure. It looked like regular defense to me.

That last drive only lasted as long as it did because of three defensive penalties on Arizona, which kept Carolina in the game (defensive holding to negate what would have been a Young turnover; roughing the passer; offsides).
 

Now it is true that the Panthers’ offensive line was threadbare by then, with two starters out. This made the degree of difficulty harder for Young and everyone else. But the Cardinals defense was also banged up, as their defensive backs had been going down like dominoes.

So how do you solve Arizona’s suddenly fearsome pass rush? Screens. Quick hitters. Chuba Hubbard in the flat. Maybe even a shovel pass to a tight end. There was plenty of time — what there wasn’t was plenty of yardage, nor enough flexibility from Canales.

One of Young’s six incompletions was a pass to Xavier Legette, who to me at that point shouldn’t have been in the game. That pass went incomplete of course, because Legette — the Panthers’ first-round draft pick in 2024 — had what was undoubtedly the worst statistical lines in Carolina history.

Young targeted Legette eight times.

Eight! I have no idea why.

Legette caught one. One!

And it went for minus-2 yards, meaning Legette entered the game with 10 yards receiving this season and left it with eight.

Now to be fair, Young (35-55-328 yards, with three TDs) had gotten Carolina back into the thing. Hunter Renfrow had a breakout game at slot receiver, scoring twice. McMillan didn’t score, but had his first 100-yard receiving game. Tight end Ja’Tavion Sanders and wide receiver Brycen Tremayne were also very good.

And the comeback happened after Young about lost the game for the Panthers in the first quarter, fumbling the ball away on a strip-sack that led directly to a return touchdown and then throwing an ill-advised pass under pressure that resulted in a wounded-duck interception and three more points.

Said Canales after the game about Young: “Sometimes it ain’t the worst thing, if you’re in that situation, to take a sack. I also know he makes some magical plays.”

We saw both on Sunday. Young held the ball too long sometimes, including on Carolina’s final offensive play (a fourth-down sack). He also made some magic, sometimes throwing between three guys at once, sometimes escaping a sack attempt and keeping his eyes downfield for a touchdown.

So there were some things that were better Sunday. Carolina only scored 10 points in Week 1; this time the Panthers had 22. The run defense improved. Young, after playing the first five quarters of the season as if he didn’t belong in the NFL, finally looked like he did again for those three consecutive TD marches.

But that final drive?!

Listen, Arizona was ripe to be beaten at that point. NFL onside kicks didn’t succeed about 94% of the time in 2024, yet this one did after a Cardinal misplayed it.

Arizona had lost 19 points of its 24-point lead at that point. The Panthers, who had never successfully come back from more than 17 points down before, were close to a signature win for both Canales and Young.

And then… total letdown.

Again, let’s emphasize, the clock was very little factor. Carolina didn’t have 15 seconds left to score; the Panthers had 115 seconds left. And a timeout. And only 51 yards to navigate.

Momentum was firmly on the Panthers’ side. These were the moments where Drew Brees killed the Panthers, time and again, when he played for New Orleans. Three-step drops. Eight yards here. Twelve yards there. Right down the field.

But for the Panthers, every play looked the same — Young on a deep drop. Scanning, scanning. The pocket breaking down. Then, either a heave, or some scurrying around and then a heave. Or a sack. All the blitz-killing plays that the Panthers have at their disposal — they didn’t run any of them, it seemed like, except a Hubbard run that netted 3 yards.

The Panthers’ best plays were Arizona penalties. Other than that, it all went south. Carolina couldn’t adjust to the Arizona adjustments. Needing a touchdown, the Panthers never got closer than the Arizona 33. And so that was that.
 

At least there was some hope.

At least the game was exciting in the final two minutes.

But, as has happened so often in the past eight seasons, when it was winning time for Carolina, it turned into losing time.

Mingo …. With personality and an accent