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  1. Excerpts from Joe person 

    Sept. 7, 2025Updated 6:51 pm PDT

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — For six weeks, players and coaches spoke optimistically about how the offseason additions and the growth and development during training camp would make things different this year.

    And then the Carolina Panthers went out and did what they usually do in Week 1: put out a pitiful performance that will make it hard for the fan base to believe in this coaching staff and roster.
     

    Yes, it’s just one game and they have 16 more to show 2025 will be different from 2024, 2023 and every other year since 2017, which is the last time this franchise made the postseason.

    But that argument would be easier to swallow if it weren’t for the fact that the two things that dogged the Panthers for much of last season reared their ugly heads again in Sunday’s listless 26-10 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars: a porous run defense and another shoddy start for Bryce Young.

    Year 3 for the No. 1 pick began just like the first two — with too many turnovers and not nearly enough plays to convince you that Young is the clear, long-term answer at quarterback.

    Young led just one touchdown drive in all three Week 1 losses; the Panthers mustered 10 points in each while being outscored by a combined 97-30. With a three-turnover day against the Jaguars, here’s the ugly running score of Young in Week 1: seven turnovers, three touchdowns (two passing, one rushing) and three games with passer ratings of 49 or lower.

    All the turnovers and empty possessions sent Young past his boiling point on the first drive of the second half. With Canales going with an empty set on fourth-and-1 from the Jags’ 5, Young failed to find any open receivers and threw the ball away. Young stalked to the sideline and slammed his helmet to the ground after Canales tried to talk to him.

    Neither Young nor Canales would share the source of Young’s frustrations, other than to say it wasn’t directed at Canales. “Definitely could do a better job of body language there,” Young said. “It’s on me. But just competing. That’s all.”

    It was a curious play call from Canales, given Chuba Hubbard’s physical running style and the fact that the Panthers invested heavily in people-moving guards Robert Hunt and Damien Lewis last season. Canales said he liked the matchup and the concept in the five-receiver alignmenT

    Young threw two interceptions and lost a fumble at the end of a 7-yard scramble when he didn’t slide. That has been a recurring issue for Young, who has said it doesn’t come naturally because he didn’t play baseball.

    The offensive struggles didn’t fall entirely on Young. The youthful receiving group managed just one catch longer than 20 yards — a 21-yarder to Tetairoa McMillan — in its first game following Adam Thielen’s trade to the Minnesota Vikings. But McMillan tried unsuccessfully to make a one-handed grab on a nice Young throw in the end zone, and Xavier Legette missed out on a chunk play when he didn’t get a second foot inbounds.

    “We’re gonna keep giving them opps. That’s just what we’re gonna do. These are the guys we have. We love ’em, and I’m fired up for this group,” Canales said. “But they’ll be the first ones to come up here and tell you, ‘I’ve gotta make that play.’”

    Legette, who struggled with drops as a rookie, confirmed Canales’ assessment.

    “Anytime the ball’s in the air, those plays, they’ve gotta be made,” he said. “I’ve just gotta do a better (job) realizing where I am on the field, dragging my foot. Get better at those things.”
    The Panthers have a laundry list of things they need to improve. Put the run defense at or near the top, like it was last year when Carolina became the first team since 1980 to give up 3,000 rushing yards in a season.

    The Panthers are on that pace again after Jacksonville gouged them for 200 yards on 32 carries, good for a robust 6.3-yard average. A third of it came on one play: Travis Etienne Jr.’s 71-yard thunderbolt on the Jags’ first offensive possession following a 76-minute weather delay in the second quarter.

    With several defensive linemen failing to shed blocks and safety Tre’von Moehrig tripping over teammate D.J. Wonnum, Etienne was quickly into the third level of the defense without being touched. Safety Nick Scott dived at and missed Etienne, who made it to the Panthers’ 20 before linebacker Christian Rozeboom ran him down.

    “It’s the hardest tackle to make in football. If you make that tackle, you’re a hero. If you miss that tackle, you’re not. They pay guys to make me miss in the post. I don’t know what to tell you at that point,” Scott said.

    “I want to make that tackle more than anybody in the world. But we’ve gotta do everything, starting all the way from the front to the second level. If everybody does their job, it’s a lot easier on everybody else. I’ll never blame anybody. I’m back there. I’ve gotta make it.”

    Two plays after Etienne’s career-long run, wideout Brian Thomas Jr. scored on a 9-yard misdirection, and the Jaguars never trailed by fewer than two touchdowns again.

  2. Just now, BlazeCarolina said:

    We don't know what is going on behind the scenes, so all I can do is speculate.  Maybe the raise was to try to keep him happy as he was disgruntled with our success?  No way for me to know.

    He wasn't the answer for the future, but he was good for us while he was here.  I don't think we hurt anything by giving him a pay bump and sending a message to the team that he is model behavior and it gets rewarded.

    I am absolutely all in on treating players well who have earned it

    the panthers did that with a pay increase that no other team would gave given him

    that as enough  

     

  3. 54 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

    It is good to do right by your players.  Word travels.

    Would you rather keep him here against his will and have him leave later for nothing?  I wouldn't think Thielen would sand bag it out of spite, but he might.

    This isn't Madden.  You have to treat people as people and give them some respect.

    What would, and have, championship GMs done?    How much respect does  Howie Miller give his players   How about the Patriots   Or the Chiefs   Or the Ravens 

    answer  Never, what  the Panthers do

    it isn't Madden.  It also isn’t goodwill  

    if he wasnt the answer, the safety blanket for a mediocre qb, then paradoxically, why give him a raise 

    we can agree to disagree but the  psl owners deserve better   The fans do. So do the other players 

    …but ole Adam lives large in minnesota   So glad we were the better organization 
     

  4. 21 minutes ago, rayzor said:

    i think if i wasn't getting laid off in a few weeks i would probably be more engaged. i just don't have room in my head for the kind of poo we've got going on. 

    seriously, it would have helped me out if we could have this one year where we didn't suck just to give me something to look forward to. now it's just another negative thing i've got going on. i'd really just not bother with it anymore. 

    Im sorry Rayzor

    i wish you much luck 

    i know it sounds trite but many times, something better comes from

     

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  5. 12 hours ago, BlazeCarolina said:

    Thielen wanted to go home.  We did the right thing in letting him go.  He was good to us, so we were good to him.

    Oh yeah

    that’s our altruistic GM

    That wR room is ssssoooo good that the one WR that Young could find sometimes, the Panthers  could afford  to move

    they did Adam ‘a solid 

    how about doing the PSL holders a solid, and the other 51 players on the team by keeping Young’s target 

    this is a business not ‘make a wish’

  6. 7 hours ago, Moonraker said:

    Easy answer when what we can, and did do, is nothing.

    Bingo

    all i heard about  Evero’s failures were the ‘players he didnt have and Derrick Brown’s return’ 

    Brown is back   Supposedly better players.  same result 

    never in my life have i seen a defense, in the decades i gave watch pro football  have schemes that give away so much open space in the middle and so much space to WRs   Never

    He should've been gone last year

    canales as well needs to change  he needs to be a true HC and with competent coaches who arent his buddies as coordinators 

    evero is far from being  Fangio  he needs oversight and Canales aint Liam Coen or Andy Reid or or or 

    tell you what, i believe the 2024 Panthers oline coach went to Jax to be with coen tells all that is needed  to be known

     

  7. 1 hour ago, BlazeCarolina said:

    It is unbelievable to me how negative this place is right now.  Might be time to take a vacation.

    What do you expect?

    7 years of dreadful football from a pro team will do that

    and dreadful is what  they are and it is inexcusable 

    To a fan of pro football, they present as unmotivated, overmatched, underperforming, not prepared,  and untenable.

    the only player on that  roster  worth a tinker’s damn is Chuba.  That’s it, Chuba 

    the rest get their paychecks and they should be damned glad to get them, including Canales

    they are consistently the worst team on the field 

     

  8. Why was Brady not the starting LT

    why was nick scott on the field

    why was Evero not let go last year   I have never ever seen a pro defense so open in the middle  ever 

    corbett, one more week, and he can go back to backup guard and put Mayes in 

    we have a cheer leader as a head coach   Not working 

    we have a GMwho let Thielen walk because hr ‘believed in his young receivers’ so he ‘did Thielen a solid’   

    we have a qb that doesn’t belong in the nfl with his limitations and the playbook showed it 

    the  2024 oline coach we had is in Jacksonville right …whoever The oline coach is this year….bad

    one thing about the Panthers, they show you who they are first game    It ain’t pretty

     

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  9. 27 minutes ago, Troys99x4 said:

    He’s trying to put the team on his back because clearly he has zero reliable options outside of himself or TMac. Cmon man. We need a spark and the fumble was unfortunate. Legette got knocked over like a 130 WR on a JV team on that interception. XL is not an NFL WR. 

    If only Dan had kept Thielen but he ‘had confidence in his young receivers’

    He is also the same guy who, with fetteret, had ‘conviction’ with young 

    followed franchise from the beginning   Had season tickets  bought Sunday ticket so I could watch them on the west coast  

    I turned them off  watching us open and waiting for the Detroit game

    Nothing has changed over 7 years…they are still bumbling and fumbling 

    not  disciplined   Nothing 

    i feel sorry for PSL owners   At least I can change the channel 

     

  10. 3 minutes ago, CRA said:

    That INT is the perfect example of the coverage cheating I always talk about with Bryce on the field.  They know they don’t have to respect certain routes.   Especially the S.  Safeties cheat and don’t play essentially how they are supposed to.

    Another opening day and another S not respecting the downfield threat and coming up to make plays because they all know what Bryce does 

    Absolutely truth

  11. 3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

    What I care about most this season is getting an answer on Bryce... So far we're getting one.

    We’ve always had the answer 

    Looking good but not winning games against teams that are fairly already locked in the playoffs at the end of the year OR WHO  DO NOT  TAKE THE TEAM SERIOUSLY shows  nothing 

    this game matters and he has like zero intensity    How do you not see those the play is covered with clear space in front of you for a first down, pull the ball down and make the first 

    I guarantee you Pennix is already many times better than Young 

    if young wants to keep his job, he needs to lead this team, right now, get points on the board, make them competitive 

    AND STOP LOOKING LIKE A SLEEP WALKING DUMB poo

     

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