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1 minute ago, top dawg said:

That's an awful stat! It also belies the fact that we need a dynamic top tier QB and OC (in my opinion).

That falls highly on coaching in the Nfl 

27 minutes ago, CRA said:

my biggest fear.

We don't make a move for Watson/Stafford.

Then, and some mocks show it, Trevor, Fields, Wilson and Lance all go before #8. 

Matt Rhule drafts Mac at #8 after getting to know him at the Senior Bowl so well. 

 Bingo 

mine as well 

I was wrong about Justin Herbert and that’s who we should have moved up one spot to get and while I do not believe Jones is close to Herbert in any category, he us going to be the picK if things fall as predicted 

the panthers May trade back two or three doors to get him and get more picks 

Rhule scares me, after all Teddy would not have been here if Rhule didn’t approve and then there us the Dwayne Haskins futures offer 

8 minutes ago, Mage said:

Probably an unpopular opinion at this point, but I think Jared Goff can still be a great QB in the NFL.  Accuracy doesn't disappear, and Goff has loads of it.  His decision-making has been atrocious though, but Los Angeles shouldn't just give up on him.  

I think he'd be a great fit here personally.  Unfortunately I don't really want to trade for that contract.

Honestly. I spend a lot of time in CA and I watch the Rams a d chargers more than I want to...the guy is terrible with pressure...deer in the head lights.  Better arm than Teddy, slightly more mobile but the same guy 

no thanks 

8 hours ago, PantherPhann89 said:

Beating Washington and dropping to 8th overall pick from 3

It’s the Panther way...kinda like talking about culture and offering a futures contract to Haskins

there are ways to lose without looking like it. All teams do it to rest their players before the playoffs   New Orleans masters of it

its over and done.  Who knows, we might be better off 

42 minutes ago, Scott12345 said:

Is Jones playing in this game?

Yes...and Rhule is coaching him. Frightening 

40 minutes ago, Scott12345 said:

We don’t have any idea if he will be clutch with a game on the line

only time I’ve ever watched him, his last completion came up short and his team lost

I’m not big on Wilson but to be fair, he can’t catch it too.  His starting WRs and starting running back were out too as I recall plus traveling cross country.  Trying to say it was a team failure not just a Zack failure 

I watched all his games.  My concern is more the talent he played against. He isn’t going to have all day and open throwing lanes I. The NFL

he is smart. He has quick feet. Durability, who knows.  Everyone thought Luck a d Cam would last a lot longer than they did 

I have this feeling if none of the QBs the Panthers like are there, that they will trade down to mid range in the first.  in addition to the new first RD, they get a second and a third

they will then Take, god forbid, Jones,  and then all bets are off after that to try and fill holes 

I could see them taking the LT at 8 but  that’s it  I don’t  see a trade up and I don’t see a veteran 

I wish I did but it takes trade value, cap considerations, contract considerations and as the saying goes, ‘two to tango’.  I do not think those veterans prefer Charlotte 

time will tell.   I wish to god, Bridgewater had never come here but he did a d here we are 

5 hours ago, Zod said:

Or maybe having an elite QB, Elite TE, and Elite Receiver makes is much easier to get the ball out before a sack can happen. 

 

Some of his throws yesterday happened within one second of the snap. It is ridiculous. 

This.  Shula didn’t have a play under 60 seconds unless it was Cam running 

30 minutes ago, trueblade said:

Tampa seems unconcerned about building for the long haul or sustained success. 

...or the ‘culture’

honestly, it feels like we have a child coaching the team compared to Payton and Arian’s 

On 1/21/2021 at 10:49 PM, ladypanther said:

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article248407580.html

 

Wish there was a ‘laugh out loud’ emoji.   It’s all about the ‘culture’ right Matt...lol

1 hour ago, Captroop said:

You know.  That little bit of comedy really pissed me off.  I can’t picture a true competitor doing that....at all

petty I know 

1 hour ago, Zod said:

Tepper speaks on the record about the GM and also comments on QB 

 

 

Notice the line "it doesn't hurt to have a QB that can take you there" referencing the Superbowl.

 

Doesn't take much to read between the lines here.

 

We getting a QB, ladies and gents.

 

 

The concerning part is that anyone in the Panthers org thought they WERE getting something 

sweet baby Jesus, everyone knew this 

well...except a few optimistic, desperate souls

Matt is pretty ingrained in the Detroit area, much like Newton here, not sure uprooting his family would be in his plans 

it would be the smart move for a team with so many holes 

remember, the Colts are also in the QB market now...dangling a number 8 pick might get a slew of draft picks from them, yes I know they are lower, I’m just pointing out that the Colts might want to trade up with the Panthers or Bengals or Dolphins as well

As much as I want a new, young Qb or Watson, the smart thing to do is to pickup a Matt Stafford and use draft picks to build the team, if the Panthers want to compete right away 

if they don’t, then draft best rookie  qb available to them at 8 and let the pick spot behind Bridgewater 

very ironic as wasn’t it Brady who wanted Bridgewater here...to me if true he is just as suspect as Teddy.  People don’t like to hear that but his evaluation of Teddy was seriously flawed.   

after watching the playoff games, the Panthers are very far off from that circle 

I read it...particularly Fowler 

they do not have a paywall on the Panthers / Sports that I have seen

What makes anyone think Deshaun would want to come here?

Newton was like a big brother to Deshaun and  the Panthers treatment of star players has been very questionable 

2 hours ago, Verge said:

I think the "character issue" thing is extremely overblown with Wilson. His teammates would die for him and his growth has proven he works hard day in and day out. Comparisons to Manziel are lazy and I am not sure what they are based on at all. Not to mention Wilson is a much better prospect that Manziel was coming out. 

You aren’t concerned about his level of competition?
BYUs schedule was poor this year 

15 minutes ago, stirs said:

 

What if FL does NOT experience the deaths at the rates NYC did?  What if they develop the herd immunity quicker than other states?  A big risk seeing how many retired folks live there.  But if all the bar hopping under 40 crowd gets it and it is truly vanilla, then will FL be better off?  I know it is hard to think outside the box, but give it a try, and remember, Trump won't get the credit. 

What if, the medical and epidemiologists simply now more than then and there are more possible therapies 

ie assisting breathing by placing on stomach, some steroid use, remdasvir (sp) using a different type of oxygenation than a ventilator 

you are making quite a leap on herd mentality when that has not been proven yet with this virus   Maybe it does. Maybe it doesn’t 

9 hours ago, Nick_81 said:

He was designated as a franchise player.  Maybe you don't know how it works?  For another team to get him, they'd have to give up 2 first round picks, PLUS the contract.  Nobody is going to do that.  Not even Washington.  There was literally no way to get anything for him

I am aware of it and my opinion on that is if a GM thinks enough of a player  to use it and apply it, then that GM lives with it.  There other categories that could have been used.

this move cost a lot more than just Norman himself. The Panther GM caused a loss of depth that he could have used. That the team could have used.  

its water over the bridge now. Well over it

he is the NFL Executive of the year  I expect more frankly. Maybe that's the issue for me.  I expect with his experience to handle it to benefit the Panthers and I really struggle with losing an all pro and drafting three players in a position that as he himself says, doesn't matter much in the Panthers scheme 

23 minutes ago, NanceUSMC said:

We averaged (off the top of my head) 31 points per game last season, and absolutely embarrassed 2 of the 3 teams we faced in the playoffs...  Newton wasn't running for his life...  We allowed 33 sacks for the season...  Sure, we had 2 poor showings (1 against a historically good defense)...  Sure we can use some OL upgrades, but overall they did a very solid job...

On the other side of the ball, we were bringing in street FA's in the defensive backfield every couple weeks, and relying on veterans who are WAY past their prime to keep things together for us...  Yeah, losing Norman sucks......  But not as bad as having to start Robert McClain in the biggest game of the season because you had no one else...

That's how this draft made us better

Last year is over. Glad for the wins some could have gone another way  a year is a lifetime in the young man's game of pro football   Rosters have to turn over frequently  we all know this 

both the Falcons and broncos gave the blueprint on the panthers and also the inability of the panthers'  OC to  do a quicker offensive play selection to neutralize that rush  either we don't have it or we can't execute it

I seem to recall gettleman saying cornerback isn't that important in our scheme. Th e front seven is...quite an epiphany to draft 3 corners don't you think

just my opinion  not arguing with anyone  there were players there to make numerous positions  better  instead we got nothing this year for Norman  we focused on one position group to the extreme and stayed pat with positions that needed an upgrade  

i really feel that Super Bowl should have been a wake up call on the coaching staff and some players  instead it's the 'so glad to have been there ' platitudes    Will kelvin make difference  maybe  Stewart another year older as is Khalil 

dont get it  I'm not paid to get it  just my observation  i just pay to watch them play

36 minutes ago, jdpanther5 said:

He'll get a 2017 third round pick out of it, that's a 4th pick in the top 100 of what projects to be a stronger draft. 

Great. But that is next year compensatory 

I dont really care who he drafted or what position they are or how they are ranked by some sports reporter 

Four  questions worth asking

1. How does a GM let an All Pro walk and get nothing?  Nada. Zero. Zip  an additional second or third round pick could have made a lot of difference this year

2.  How did anything done during this draft make the Panthers one bit better against premier defenses   Seems to me the defensive backfield wasn't the reason for that super bowl loss or the beating Newton took from Atlanta   Speed against slow tackles, kills

3.  Aging and injury prone RB with third stringers behind them and an aging center in constract year

4  edge rushers

If he finds a replacement for Norman, good for him but giving away an All Pro and getting nothing for it, not smart and then the ancillary impact of wasting not two but three draft picks to fill the void.  This  offense needs upgrades.  Gettlemen would do well to consider Newton's replacement in two years as his body can't take the beating he is getting

Two things I have observed over the years of watching pro football

1. It is a young man's game for the most part

2 sentimentality doesn't win games 

actually, PSL holder for 15 years  and you?

frankly posting your employment information in this forum is a testament to your educational level and your work ethic  

3 minutes ago, Kuechly59 said:

Fair weather punk.

In no way surprising considering your whiny pessimistic attitude. 

big talk from an anonymous poster 

I bet your parents still pay your bills don't they