Davidson Deac II

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the biggest issue for David Tepper.....is his best offensive draft pick to date.....is an average, RB by committee caliber RB.  As in, he is backup RB in the NFL. 

If that's your best offensive draft pick in a half decade.....your team is going to fail. 

I would say Brady Christensen is actually our best offensive pick, which is almost as sad.  

On 5/30/2024 at 5:59 PM, Jon Snow said:

Ask me after preseason. 

Ask me after a few actual games.

If someone had ask me how good we would be in 2015 after preseason, I would have said 8-8, maybe 9-7.

A coach last a whole season.  

10 hours ago, Barney said:

Great point.  I totally overlooked that piece.  I would say if they are being paid scholarships are no longer needed unless paid for from those same funds.  No more tax money going to fund any athletes being paid by the school.  I think with what you laid out here that should cover the student athlete payrolls.  

Some of the schools might have to cut back in other areas though to cover it.  At a place like Alabama, probably not an issue.  But for say Vanderbilt or Wake Forest, this could mean some programs get cut or reduced.  

9 hours ago, Terry Tjs said:

I think his point is that under the old rules, special dorms, practice facilities, relaxation zones, scholarships and special meals were all justified by the "revenue" the major sports brought in. If 22% of the revenue is now paid out as cash, are those other "perks" being provided  at a loss to the taxpayer?

From what I have read, all of that is paid out of the money that they make from sports, or from donations.  The power five schools make more than enough money to cover it.  I remember reading that some taxpayer funding went into the Dean Dome, but for the most part, almost all the funding comes from income generated by the sports program and from fees included in tuition.  At least at a power five conference school.  Not sure how the others do it.  

A few schools even make a profit which goes back into the general fund, although that may go away now.  

For example, UNCCH made 139 million in revenue last year.  That was more than enough to cover the expenses of the athletic program.  But the one part I found annoying when I paid for my son to go to a UNC school (not Chapel Hell) was that his tuition included an athletic fee that he had to pay whether he chose to go to a game or not.  I believe all the schools do this and for those that lose money, this is what puts them over the top.   

23 hours ago, Barney said:

They need to take a look at the State funding a school receives.  If you have a kid at one of these football schools many times all of the money is flowing into athletics and athletic facilities while the regular student dorms are falling apart and many academic buildings are in bad shape, but check out that new and even bigger jumbotron.  If the schools start paying, any state funding going toward their scholarships should be removed.  I don't agree with our tax dollars paying college athletes.  Let that money come from boosters and endorsements.  

The money will come from the funds that the schools earn from sports.  For example, the ACC paid each of its schools an average of 45 million, which came from tv, bowls, ncaa tournament etc...  The money to pay the athletes will come from that distribution as well as any money the school makes from ticket and memorabilia sales.  Per the deal made, they are allowed to distribute 22% of that money to the players.  

9 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

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I don't know if Fields will work out (he probably wont), but these comments just seem to be coming from someone who is an ass.  Authentic relationships?  What should he do, go to each teammates house and weed their garden for them? Take their kids to school?

He doesn't need authentic relationships.  Just a professional, work relationship.  And he needs to play well.  

I am wondering if it will eventually get to the point that a guy like Bryce Young, if he fails in the NFL, can go back to college and pick up where he left off and make a lot of money.  

On the surface, CMC seems a more apt comparison to brooks than Stewart was.  Clay Matthews once said that Stewart was the toughest running back in the NFL to tackle.  Brooks doesn't seem like that kind of player.  

Wonder how long it will be before the four years of eligibility goes away?  What is to stop a player from playing 6 or 8 years to get his doctorate in basket weaving?  

8 hours ago, hepcat said:

He was invisible in 2023, he made some plays in 2021 and 2022 but not many 

Probably had a lot to do with our run for three yards, throw for two yards, and on third, run for three or get sacked, offense last year.  

Simms list and 5 bucks will buy a modern cup of coffee.  

While I don't think we should go after Dak, Dallas has been choking in the playoffs for 20 plus years.  Can't really blame it on Dak.  

I think it's because they are decent to good enough to win the division or make it as a wildcard, but usually not as good as the media makes them out to be.  They lost to better teams. 

Take last years game.  Yeah, Dak sucked.  But Dallas's supposedly stellar defense last year was abused by the Packers.  Two of the first three td drives for the Packers were long drives where Green Bay ran and threw as they pleased.  And then when Dallas was trying to get back in the game, that supposedly great defense gives up a 27 yard run and this gem.

If there was a choke, it was a team effort.  

If Bryce doesn't work out, we should be in position to draft someone.  So no.  

11 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

No, I was referring to the fact 6 starting qb's came from the same draft.

Ok.  I agree, its highly unusual.  

On 4/27/2024 at 9:15 AM, MHS831 said:

I think CB is our biggest need right now, but passing on C in round 2 does make a statement--We are happy with what we have there.  If we needed a starter, we would have never passed of Frazier or Powers-Johnson.  However, Van Pran-Granger is sitting there now....

Not drafting one doesn't mean we are necessarily happy.  Could just mean there was no one we really liked.  Or that there were other players we liked more.  

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I would bet dollars to donuts even if Young works out in 2024 we still draft a qb to have on the roster and develop.  Dalton will not be here in 2025, bryce will be in his 3rd year so he shouldnt need a vet presence.  I can almost promise at some point that swing on a guy

I certainly wouldn't be surprised if that happened.  We might take a shot with say a fourth rounder if there is someone the staff likes.  

14 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Its not a bad idea but they shouldn't have taken a guy that will be 28 by the time he plays.

If (and its a big if) they get two good years out of Cousins and 8-10 good years out of this guy, then I don't see it as a problem.  

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

It's extremely rare. Go back through past draft and count how many times that's happened. 

What is extremely rare?  Taking a young quarterback when you have a starter?  If that is what you are referring to, at one time it wasn't that rare. 

7 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

I mean if it wasn't for hiring a buffoon for HC and the general impatience, grabbing Teddy and drafting a rookie to sit for a year or two could have been a fine strategy. Wasn't a great class in 2020 but we skipped on Jalen Hurts for YGM in the 2nd 

2020 was one of the best qb classes in recent memory.

Joe Burrow, Tua, Herbert, Jordan Love, and Hurts.  Getting five starting qb's out of a single draft class is very rare. 

We could have taken Hurts or Love.  Of course, hindsight is 20/20, and if we had taken Love with our first round pick, our fans would have been howling, as Falcon fans are now.  But it probably would have been the right move.  

But I agree, Rhule was a fool who made one significant mistake after another.  

I get what they are doing, going for long term sustained success instead of short term gain.  Cousins gives them the ability to compete now, and in two or three years, if they think Pennix can play, they cut or trade Cousins and go with Pennix for the foreseeable future.  Akin to what Green Bay did with Favre, Rogers, and now Love.  If it works out for Green Bay and Atlanta, might see other teams do the same thing.  

Personally, I wish we had let Cam play out his contract and drafted a younger guy that same year, instead of cutting cam and the ridiculous signing of TB.

48 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

Ahhh, we are talking about first overall?  My bad.  I thought we talking about first round picks who sucked first year as starters.

Drew Brees was a second-round pick.  

3 hours ago, MechaZain said:

Works great when you have prime Russell Wilson and Beast Mode. Tall order for our guys.

And a passing game works great when you have prime Brady or Mahomes.  Unfortunately, getting those types of players is even harder.  

I think the coach will go heavy run this year so we don't have to rely on Bryce much.  And if turns out Bryce can actually play, we work in the passing game more and more over the next few years.  And if he can't, we draft someone else next year.  Sucks, but imo those are the only choices we have at this point.  

Well, I just hope he can turn us into a winning football team.  

3 hours ago, SOJA said:

very glad we get chicago early while they are still working out their kinks because by seasons end that team might be dangerous 

Or they might suck just as bad as they have the last few years.  QB's picked at the top of the draft don't always live up to their billing.