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47 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I don't agree. Olsen looked like a noticably quicker prospect with the same size. Olsen would go top 5 in this draft would be my guess vs 31st. He ran a 4.55 and Warren looks 4.7+ (or 4.6ish if his school did it at his proday). There is a reason he didn't work out at the combine or his proday and it's obvious. He is a solid but not great TE prospect. He only has room to lose by showing his real numbers.

I didn't even know that about Warren. Count me out on guys who are scared to workout because they know their metrics won't look good. 

12 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

So he's thinking/hearing that T-Mac could go before Jeanty, who is all but assured to go in the Top 10, but so many here are so sure that he's not worth taking at 8 if he's there when we're up, ya'll be crazy.

This is looking like more specifically a jaguars thing. They want to get Lawrence more help and don't need a running back. Some teams don't even have tet top 15-20

15 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Yeah that's kind of where I was going.  Our board may be 1A Walker 1B Mykel ahead of Graham.  Don't think it's necessarily a good thing, but he could slip to SF.  

And not to mention, we have a lot invested in the group of Brown, Robinson, Wharton & Brown II for our 3 DL spots.  Not that those guys should be predicating a draft move (they're not world beaters).  

Really think they're weighing LB on our board.  

Don't get me wrong, the guy is talented. But like you said we just signed a bunch a DTs so they probably don't see it as a huge need now. And if it's true walker might go before 8 then Graham might be the safest option. Williams injuries worry me a lil bit, not gonna lie. I just hope what we saw from graham translates to the pros. 

1 minute ago, CRA said:

our biggest need is still developing and answering the QB question. 

True. But this idea that we need to go balls out dedicate all resources to offense to figure that out is just wrong. And I'm pretty sure the team feels the same way. 

We are not drafting a tight end in the top 10 over all our other needs. They just took one they were high on last year and they are gonna develop that guy along with the receivers.

Everything i have seen says teams are not as high on Graham as fans are. And im pretty convinced the panthers would pass on him too as this point. They already know who they want. Just my thinking.

30 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

There’s been some Vegas odds shift for Tet and Jags at 5 is picking up.

Mcshay released a new vid this morning and said the same thing. Also pretty much said dont expect a trade up for shedeur in the top 10 atleast. Gonna have to pick somebody at 8.

For the record, I'm good with trading back a couple spots and taking Emmanwori. But DE has to come next afterwards. 

Im good with either Georgia player. But prefer Walker if i had to pick.

Calling out players production on a stacked defense is just so misguided. Its nowhere near that simple. 

From a talent perspective either one of them elevates defense because we are badly lacking on that side of the ball. How they will be used is the real question. 

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you could also easily argue by not showing up to a top prospects "pro day" it could also mean we have seen enough especially since we have met with him numerous times already.  Whats he really going to show you?

Thats how i take it. They already know everything. A pro day a week before the draft isn't changing much. 

He is right up the street, gonna be at home for the draft. It will be a breeze to hop in the car and drive down to BoA after the pick is made. Hell, It's almost gonna be awkward if we don't take him if he is there. Lol

41 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I'm not as down on XL as many of you are.  He got open alot and showed toughness.  He deserves another season before writing him off

Most fans are just upset because they think XL made bryce look bad. Thats what it comes down too. If that was any other qb out there throwing balls and getting dropped by XL the energy wouldn't be as bad. XL performed pretty well for a guy picked at the bottom of the first round or second if there was no trade up. There should be no reason for fans writing him off after one year. Everybody knew the guy was a work in progress coming in so the anger is really about something else. If you read between the lines that what it is

2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/avl_mike/status/1912170684589158500?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

Dan Morgan doubles down on the current receiver room. Sounds like Tet McMillan isn't in consideration with their first round pick.
 

Good

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Mcshay and other analysts are speculating the Saints could just pick BPA, roll with rattler, clear some cap space next off season and go for a qb in the next draft where there are some very talented dudes that potentially could come out.  In short, Arch in new orleans with a rebuilt roster and with cap space would be a problem.  I guess we will see what happens in a week

Thats actually the smart thing to do, but of course a lot of people are just gonna assume every other team is gonna do the stupid thing instead of the smart thing except for us. 

Lol...you are just dying to get rookie bryce again aren't you

Lol

Maybe because it was historically the worst defense ever and the offense made strides second half the season. The defense couldn't stop a nose bleed and was the scapegoat for a lot of losses. The Panthers atleast have an identity on offense to run the ball, and they were able to do that on some of the best teams in the league. They cannot however stop the run, rush the passer or defend the pass consistently because they can't pressure the QB enough. Hell, they had to start practice squad players a lot of games. Only 2 stand out players on defense and one of them is coming back from a season long injury. If they decided to go defense the entire draft nobody should even have a problem with it. 

You sure have an unusual obsession with the Sanders. 

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Idk man for a long time there were people who gave Burns the benefit of the doubt. I think really it's about learning and adapting going forward. We already can't draft worth a damn. If we're targeting pass rushers we need to reconsider past approaches and try something different so we don't keep ending up in the same conundrum.

Well That was a very small number and i was one of them.

i think its funny how Burns was considered an overrated limited player on here for so long to now other players dont have a higher ceiling then him.

2 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

Brian Burns not being a 10+ sack guy a year and being a run game liability is why we were smart to let him walk.

Williams is an asset in the run game Day 1. No question.

Yes...if it's one thing he will do really well coming in is stop the run.

16 hours ago, Swaggasaurus said:

Walker- Has the intangibles, demeanor, and potential. Only negs are no big time #’s and size, but it’s not like he’s a hobbit. 
 

Edges out Warren for me. Position value not there.

They already have a tight end they invested in and need to develop. If Warren isn't gonna Come in and be a 1k yard number 1 option I don't see the value either.

Inevitable marriage.