Donald LaFell

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I just hope this is a lesson to them to not look a gift horse in the mouth so to speak. If they ever get an offer like that again to realize there's not a player on the team you pass that up for.

For real, that made no sense. Belichek wasn’t great at drafting but he was always good about trading guys for firsts before they needed a big pay day 

46 minutes ago, CardiacCat said:

No team/owner/headcoach/player will EVER go into a new season with the intention to "tank".  There is just too much at stake.  Will an owner be happy if attendance at games goes in a downward spiral if the team doesn't perform? NO! Will players be happy if their value goes down if they are not put in a postion to shine? NO! How about the coach(es)? Do you think they'd be happy with a dismal season? NO!   WE WERE NOT PLANNING ON TANKING AT ANY POINT....

I think it’s unavoidable in the salary cap era that teams go through cycles. A new staff will have some rope and time to set things up. 
 

If Canales is a good coach and Young lives up to the #1 pick hype we’ll still prob stink this year lol

enjoy the rebuild! 

40 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

We have to pay a bit more for the same players because the team is so bad. Call it a surcharge if you will. It's the price you pay to convince a good player to join your crappy team.

Hopefully we can front load some of the cost during the crappy reset year, and these guys are still playing well for the remainder of their contract 

On 3/11/2024 at 7:12 PM, Eazy-E said:

By the time we recover from this mess we will either have to pay Bryce Young or look at drafting his replacement. The entire point of having a QB on a rookie contract is being able to pay and retain your high end talent.

This is NFL purgatory and I’m not seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.

Yeah I would think we need to stink this year, trade the number one pick for a haul in 2026 and reset that way. 

Hopefully so. I don’t really care.

i wouldn’t watch much, enjoy your Sundays! 

My gut feeling is we’ll be bad during this reset year, then probably mid-bad in 2026 while we get used to a vet or rookie QB to replace Bryce. 

Just gonna be a long road. 

1 hour ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

knowing the panthers, they'll win some meaningless games in December and push us out of the number one overall only to trade back up into the pick 

We’ll trade next years first to do it but then end up giving up the number one pick of the 2026 draft 

it sounds crazy to say but I’m really surprised at the negative reactions. The team stinks and in all likelyhood it will stink no matter what they do. 

They don’t have a lot to work with and they absolutely need to support the QB they drafted. They need to look attractive for backups or a new QB next year. 

Sacrificing the defense to help the offense bring in new blood makes all the sense in the world. We’ll stink no matter what so prioritize the most important position. 

The worst team in the league isn’t gonna have a lot of trade able assets 

I mean if they can’t agree on a deal then you get what you can. Still need to re-tool the offense to support a QB. 

11 hours ago, rayzor said:

And one thing about Tepper, he's made some bad decisions, but he's learned to bounce from an idea when it doesn't work and try something very different.

At some point something has to stick, right?

I really hope it sustains as well. I can’t help but wonder that Tepper’s mind is 2-3 steps ahead in building a sports/gambling/entertainment empire.
 

Owning an NFL team just checked a box for him on the way to owning a recession proof business that’s fun even in a down economy. 

I feel like skill players are how you end up in the exact same spot. They need to calm down and build in the trenches. 

12 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

LMAO!

 

Man y'all gotta let this stuff play out. We been hoping for change since Tepper took over. Each year ends in disappointment.

 

Cmon guys just stop with the hope.

It’s the circle of fandom. Can’t control it so might as well be optimistic. I’m hopefully but also not really investing any time into the draft or watching many games this season unless we are showing sparks. 

19 hours ago, pantherclaw said:

He is a ranks 11th overall as a pass rusher in the league. He's also the ONLY legit pass rusher on the team.  He's also a leader. 

Miss and moan about the economics of how players get paid in the NFL all you want to. He's still wanted and needed ob the team by upper management.  

How yall continue to dismiss him because he doesn't fit what we would all ideally want doesn't change any that I've shared. 

Yeah I think it’s worth saying. 
 

There’s no ideal ratio of player per dollar, and ideally the team keeps its best players.,
 

Since we’ll stink this year maybe we just front load his cap hit lol. 

It’d be different if they were locals and they also didn’t get rid of the grass. 

Nothing wrong with utilizing the space more but they still just seem like carpetbaggers. 

That’d be a cool novelty. If he’s made it this far he must enjoy the game and has handled the pressure of being a kid…a baby GOAT? Hehe

I feel like it’s a given, expectations are pretty low 

Any pass rusher is going to benefit from a bookend, but Burns has never been one to fight through double teams or command triple teams. I could be full of crap there but AFAIK that’s the case. 
 

If you make a big investment in Burns do you now have to give him a FA or #33 pass rusher to keep him effective? 
 

The answer probably feels obvious to some but I just felt like throwing that out there. 

Without getting into the sunk cost fallacy, the team invested too much in Bryce to not make this season all about him. 
 

Give him the best chance to succeed so we can move forward. If he blows then we are in a better spot for a new QB or vet to take over. 

Either Bryce somehow becomes a starter worthy of number 1 pick hype or the team is set up better for the next QB.  I hope it works out. 

I’d rather trade him because just like CMC he’s not going to put us over the top. He needs to be next to other talented players.
 

If we overpay for him I don’t think it’s the worst thing in the world, at least he’ll have the security but he’s just too in between to be an elite edge. Maybe front load his contract and hope we can extend him for cheaper if/when a SB window opens up and he’s failed to be impactful. 

I hate to be apathetic but I’m just unsure of how much of a difference it would have made. 
 

If you read bears fans posts some of them don’t even care that they have the #1 pick since they just think they’ll screw up anyway lol 

39 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Whatever happened to good old fashioned common sense, I wonder?

Yeah I’m always open to new approaches but holy poo. This seems like a whole lot of trouble vs the eye test. I hope we keep trying new things but why are we going all in on it? 
 

I feel like analytics makes more sense about what positions to prioritize, how to spend cap, maybe how to harness a Super Bowl window. 
 

I can’t see how analytics can help that much with talent eval. The data sets aren’t large enough and football is pure chaos. 
 

This is all so silly lol. 

When we win the Super Bowl we’ll rub it in his face, and if we suck again then Teppee with throw scotch at him. Win/win! 

9 hours ago, pantherj said:

4K on a small tv is pointless. On a large tv, say 65", you need to be about 6ft or closer to really take in the increase in resolution. The bigger the tv the better when it comes to 4k. Also, 4k that is broadcasted, say over a streaming service, will not look as good as a physical media source due to compression. Streaming 4k is second rate which is why I have a physical media collection.

Yeah back in the day 1080p over bunny ears looked incredible vs whatever cable was. I recorded all of our games on windows media center. I think they were about 28gb for 3 hours back then. 
 

might be kind of a cool hobby to try again. Rewatching the games wouldn’t be as fun during this era lol. 

lol you don’t say that even if it’s true you doofus. 
 

All of the GOAT orgs prob wanted to draft some real stinkers too. That’s just how it works. 
 

Also if you gave us the top 10 picks in the draft he would have ruined it