Donald LaFell

You can’t not play as long as he did and not have something to offer. He’s never said anything dumb. I’d like to think he help guys find their pride/confidence. 
 

Working back from those injuries was such an impressive feat. He even got Jeremy Chinned his first year but still was able to contribute.

We had such good fortune with those 4-3 linebackers it’s been incredible. Almost two decades of having someone that was near the top in terms of talent, usually felt like at least 2 guys. 

17 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Any qb needs an oline first. 

True which is why I’d rather focus on it. I’m not sure if Young will really ever rip it the way he needs to even with time. 

I don’t think I’d mind but Young seems like really needs the o-line first. 

Resign and restructure the core group. Focus on supporting the QB position, don’t fit too much in one offseason or we’ll keep sucking. 

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yep we keep trying to cut corners without doing it the right way.  Been that way for 5 damn years now

And it’s been so tragic because the low expectations were right there. They literally took the rope and hung themselves. 

A year like 2002 or 2011 had some bright spots and I’m hoping for something like that. Seeing young players flash and build chemistry together. 

I definitely don’t want rookie or unproven WRs considering a new offense and shaky QB.

Young needs stability and talent so FA WR seems like a good idea but we also need to stabilize the O-line. 
 

TBH I’m pretty sure Young isn’t going to work out so making long term moves for him seems pointless. Give him enough for a fair shake and cut bait when he proves he’s not a franchise QB.
 

But truthfully the team needs to be torn down. Keep your foundational guys and just be patient. 

It felt like a risk to draft an NFL player with so many physical disadvantages. I hope with never do this again. It’s just nonstop questions wonder if he can even be average. 

This was such an impulsive gamble for a prospect that isn’t generationally talented or even the clear cut #1

Hopefully it’s more and more true 

We likely wouldn’t replace him for a while. We’d get players on offense. 
 

Burns is the kind of player that would make a great defense elite but he can’t be an anchor. He needs to go somewhere where he can be a pass rush specialist that is ok against the run. Trade him for what you can get or let him test the market. 

I wouldn’t be opposed. Availability is a big deal. Love him as a player but maybe his body can’t handle the NFL. Not to mention he’s probably be training for this his whole life. Maybe his body was overworked as an adolescent or teenager. Just thinking out loud. 

Good players leaving dysfunctional teams is always a win/win

6 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd agree, and I'd add what he's saying to him here is actually pretty good advice.

Hell, I wouldn't mind having Rivera on board as a defensive consultant or something like that.

Good idea. I think Tepper appoints him as director of clock management reporting directly to him lol 

4 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I agree 100%. Throw in some mid vet or draft pick that wins a few meaningless games at the end causing us to miss the next QB in the draft and see how the fans react. 

These comments are soothing. Let’s all settle in for a crummy but productive 2024 and wait for this to all blow over. 

12 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Even if I believe that Young can be a starter, is his ceiling that of the first overall pick? If the answer is "no," we're wasting time IMO. We're hoping that in a perfect world that we'll be able to build a team around him and drop someone else in to get the job done. That rarely works as planned.

I definitely agree. I don’t want to be apathetic but I hope we can just not swing for the fences this offseason but also get better? Maybe try to help Young too? 
 

For a new coach maybe we can go heavy on short term vet FAs he likes then focus on O line in the draft. 
 

I agree we are probably wasting time but I just feel like 2 years is always the plan with a rookie QB like that. Young is very mature/smart and no doubt a hard worker so I assume they’ll try to keep investing in him for this built in wasted year. 
 

I totally agree though I would love if they decided a 5’10” gun-shy QB probably won’t work out and move on. I can’t wait to have a tall strong armed QB again. I feel for Young but I hope he can hold his head high regardless. 

I think the nature of a super high QB pick just means we’re gonna double down for 1 more year no matter what.

im ok with it as long as they have plans to move on, struggling rookies usually don’t turn it around to be a franchise QB in my experience and Young was pretty bad 

13 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Florio notoriously despises Tepper.  This is expected from him.  

Florio is to Tepper as JT O'Sullivan is to Thielen lol

hahahaha I already forgot about those 

2 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

I won’t argue the optics of hiring a person involved with the worst FO in franchise history.

I just don’t understand getting upset at Dan for accepting the job offer.

IMO Tepper could hire the resurrected corpses of Vince Lombardi, Tom Landry and Chuck Knoll and they’d still fail b/c Tepper is cancer.

Definitely happy for Morgan. It’d be great if it works out. 

23 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Why are we making this harder than it is?  With Tepper in the building can you really evaluate the people he hires?  He just overrules their decisions with his own, unless they do what he was already planning to do.  Does that mean Dan will be good or bad?  Who knows? But how can you blame him?  We have no idea what decisions he’ll actually be allowed to make.

I’m fine being optimistic because it’s hard to see the point in letting sports entertainment make you too miserable. It’s just internal vs external.
 

How can we justify keeping anyone from the front office that was building the team?

Just feels like we picked someone with no potential. 

3 hours ago, Steelo said:

Like forreal, additionally it doesn’t matter who he hires as GM the huddle was going to label them a yes man. 
 

The AGM standing up to the GM? Does it matter, the GM is gonna do what they “feel is best” anyways. That’s like the QB coach overruling the OC on play calls.. imagination land. 

Hiring internally is what has the Huddle all uppity. External hire you could at least have hope and looking forward to FA, the draft, and contracts with a little bit of “new guy” optimism. 
 

Internal hire scares me a lot. Nothing has worked so far and we hired the person most adjacent to all of it. Just feels like a conventionally bad idea that you can’t defend if it doesn’t work out.

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

"I have no concerns with Icky at all....."

"most competitive roster in the nfl....."

 

God we are so fuged.  That entire presser shows how fuging out of touch he is.

I mean that was the season for optimistic pressers. Do any other orgs speak that differently? 

We to just just calm down and stink for a bit. Build up a culture. 

13 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

But he’s never gone internal before. This is a new strategy. Didn’t he hire a firm to help him?  What if this was their suggestion?

That’s a great angle to frame it honestly, hope it works out! 

3 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Neither do any of the people here claiming he’s a yes man and a disaster of a hire. 

I don’t like to be overly negative I guess people are just not excited. An internal hire has Teppers poop finger prints all over it. Doesn’t feel like he’s learned anything going internally. 

Hiring internally when it’s been 6 years of crap is shocking.