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With zero front office experience I still trust Cam, Luke, Greg, and Smitty on football over the people we’ve got. It can’t be a role that would undermine a new GM but Tepper should welcome any consultation from our legends.

9 hours ago, RJK said:

He doesn’t want the job 

Yeah I don't think Tabor was first choice for interim

14 hours ago, Waldo said:

Promising yet raw coach put in a terrible position and asked to do the impossible? The Panthers are the experience needed to do better elsewhere. This team packs years of bad experience into 1 season for them to learn from. The behind the scenes stuff too.

“Terrible position” lol offensive coordinator with a #1 pick QB 

If he’s anywhere near what he was hyped up to be then he’s going to work his ass off this offseason and just maybe, with halfway competent coaching, he’ll rise to the occasion. 

The knock was that he’s never had to overcome real adversity. Well now he’s got it. Time to see whether everything about his work ethic and studiousness was bullpoo too.

1 hour ago, BrianS said:

The problem is not what we gave up to get there.  The problem is who we chose with that selection.  Had we chosen Stroud, do you think this would even be a conversation?

This is Scott Fitterer in a nutshell. He’ll come up a fair deal based on market conditions and asset value or whatever but has no eye for scouting. It’s like having a finance algorithm as GM which is probably why Tepper has kept him around.

2 hours ago, Waldo said:

After the next draft cycle when people tend to start forgetting the year before. It is a lot easier than saying 'I was wrong'. That or it will be 'they ruined him like Carr' and not he was also a bust like Carr, only one of those was ever true and Carr did a lot of that damage himself with his limitations.

No doubt in my mind the narrative is going to be that the team ruined him. Media will blame the clearly dysfunctional organization before admitting they were wrong about Young.

Next year is make or break for Bryce and poor play in a system we won’t be using isn’t doing him any favors. Sit him and hope he can wash the stench of the season off. 

No coach worth his salt is going to come here without full control and if you’re going to do that you may as well go Harbaugh. Him or Belichick  and I think the game has passed Bill.

Lame duck staff

23 minutes ago, Panthercougar68 said:

Has Bryce shown nothing at all or just nothing that you want? He’s made some throws that have been completed and some not that warrant talent.

Hes not Cam, if that’s what you’re looking for. He’s not gonna make dudes miss and miraculously turn as 3rd and 17 into a first down with his legs.

He’s not going to do it with his brain either so what good is he?

I gotta say as someone who doesn’t watch college, I’m amazed at how off the entire football world was about this dude. Hyped up as one of the most NFL ready QBs the games seen and he’s been about as far from that as you can get. With every other bust at this level the red flag that did them in was a known risk. Bryce has ironically been durable he just doesn’t seem very good at the rest of being a quarterback.

If it weren’t for the condensed replays I would have stopped weeks ago

13 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Tepper needs more than just a new GM.

I suspect until Tepper takes a couple of steps back Fritterer is the kind of front office guy we will keep seeing. Tepper is way too easy to manipulate and I can only imagine what the rest of 'his guys' get up to that we don't know about. Sounds like a snake pit

Great point. Fitt’s probably as good as a Yes Man gets.

No matter how you feel about Fitterer he’s done a bad job. There’s qualities I like about him but it’s undeniable at this point. The only reason is to keep him around is if you believe he has the qualities to become a good GM with more time, but frankly I don’t think we’ve seen enough progress from year 1 to bank on that.  He is who is— a human calculator who is good at asset evaluation on paper but is throwing darts at the wall to when it comes to talent evaluation.

Very cool that the publically owned Packers are one of the winningest. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

More:

Tepper also encouraged Reich to go outside of his “circle” with some of the hires. As such, many of the offensive coaches had never worked together and brought different philosophies to an offense that would be led by a rookie quarterback from Week 1. Besides the disagreements in scheme, there were personality conflicts and factions formed on a staff that included two main holdovers from Rhule’s staff — offensive line coach James Campen and special teams coordinator Chris Tabor, both of whom were retained at Tepper’s urging.

After Tepper named Tabor interim coach last week, one of Tabor’s first moves was to fire quarterbacks coach Josh McCown and running backs coach Duce Staley, who was on Philadelphia’s staff with Reich in 2017 when the Eagles won the Super Bowl. Staley was still with the Eagles two years later when McCown played for the team.

The 44-year-old McCown logged 17 seasons in the NFL as a backup quarterback. McCown twice interviewed for the Houston Texans’ head-coaching vacancy, but his Panthers’ role was his first NFL coaching job.

Some in Carolina thought Reich and McCown weren’t tough enough on Young as the 2021 Heisman Trophy winner from Alabama got off to a bumpy start.

So basically we overcorrected and went from CEO coach to a coaching committee.

Over a 100 years of experience gave us the worst coaches we’ve had so I’m with him on that being overrated. A smart football mind who is a motivational leader is what I want and I think Greg has that.

i believe this is just a stunt to up his stock though. Like McCown, just being considered for a HC gig is a good one on the resume.

y'all realize he has two sports teams in Charlotte right

Belichick failing here would be disasterous. Atleast everyone agrees that Rhule and Reich were inept. Media's going to go in on Tepper if he gets similar results with the 6x champion.

Said this in another thread but I have a hard time believing Frank was bullied into betting his career on a QB he didn't want and then grew a spine when asked to run some RPOs. 

1 hour ago, ncfan said:

So we’re supposed to believe Reich didn’t take a stand on the QB he wanted but chose this as his hill to die on? 

We don’t have a first round pick and this team is not talent enough to go far with Andy Dalton. Bryce is getting another year.  

nah that would be 2019 when we lost Cam, Luke, and Greg. 

Everyone acting like Young was a reach now is dumb. Who cares if Nicole likes him, so did the rest of football media.

I remember going to a Bobcats game, I think it was the 7-59 season, and they gave everyone a ticket to the next game after a fan made a free throw. I didn't feel like waiting at will call for mine.