1 hour ago, onmyown said:

Man the panthers really hate speedy guys with hands who can run routes and stretch the field. Their obsession with big slow receiver ‘jump up specialists’ is why they haven’t had more than one receiver consistently  worth a damn in their entire history, and he was an accident.

Really don’t like the pick. Looks like opposing defenses will continue to defend 10-15 yards and succeed.

A Ted Ginn type does us little good if Bryce’s deep ball is actually weak

1 hour ago, CRA said:

imagine building this elaborate draft room in your home.....and being confused about why teams didn't rush to draft you.  Not even getting into the actual football concern of holding the ball imploding plays and how that's going to compound in the NFL when open isn't really a thing most plays. 

Sheduer Sanders bringing 2025 Cam Newton energy to the table when teams want 2011 Cam Newton energy at the table. 

Sorry, I'll never understand getting worked up over stuff like this. Athletes are like walking motivational posters from the time they're kids. I want players who are invested and treat football like a lifestyle, not a desk job.

3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I was also concerned about T-Macs effort and body language when scouts talked about it. But after he was drafted, Peter Schrager on the Pat McAfee show did say that he went above and beyond to address those concerns with teams. If the Panthers brought him in for a 30 visit and they are cool with it then fine with me. 

Yes we need to fix our defense but this league is about scoring points, if you don't score, you don't win games. If our defense gives up 30 points a game, then we need to score 31 points every game!!! 

Smith didn't want speculate on his character but he did hear he was a good kid from another scout. Could just be a chill guy like DJ Moore was. 

I didn't know NALO was a nickname thought it was just a motto. Suggests that he does know what he's up against though.

giving Benjamin and Funchess 2.0 ngl, but I'm encouraged that McMillian is a much better prospect than Funchess and that we also have Coker to take the pressure off. Going to be really interesting to see how the targets go when we have no clear #1. 

42 minutes ago, Adb6368 said:

Does this make everyone feel better about Morgan? 

a lot of chatter this week about how the panthers telegraph everything and have more leaks than a faucet. Not sure many of us saw this coming even with the late report tet was a wild card for us. 

Could still be true and they were as surprised as the rest of us. Doesn't really matter though as long as it works out.

I like that Canales and Morgan seem to be on the same page.  Probably the most in sync GM/HC combo we've had. I actually believe him when they say "our guy."  I felt like Fitterer took orders or signed a former player of his most of the time, Gettleman had his own kingdom, and Hurney was somewhere in between. These two seem to have a shared vision of what this team can be and I haven't seen that out of the front office in a long time, if ever.

Love or hate Scout Smitty, 35 minutes of our franchise's best WR talking about the new guy three weeks before the draft is an interesting watch

- Steve's choosing his words more carefully now and keeping his favorites close to the chest lol

- Most teams had T-Mac as top reciever in the draft and the only one with WR1 potential.

-  Finesse player in a large body. Compares him to AJ Green. "I love AJ Green." Interestingly Green was considered speedy and Tet ran a faster 40.

- "F****** dangerous in space" per scouts around the league but has trouble getting seperation.

- Below average strength/physicality for his size. Difficulty blocking and against the press.

- Low energy when he's not the focal point.  Smitty actually saw some of himself in him there. I thought this was his best insight.

- High floor. Believes he'll be good at worst. 

Summary: A natural at wide reciever with unique athleticism for his size. Question marks around drive and physicality will be the difference between him being good or great.

7 hours ago, Basbear said:

Can someone post the tetairoa page, please?

12 hours ago, L-TownCat said:

Who keeps telling the media what we’re doing?  Could they maybe stfu?

 Fitterer rubbed off on Dan more than we'd like to admit he's probably in a NFL GM Signal chat

Perfect. There’s probably team staff who would use this as reference even

11 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

 

Yes BPA is a myth. Certain positions will always be weighted. 

 

also feel like Gettleman was just bullshitting us with it because he knew 

4 hours ago, bandu said:

if you want to be successful at the draft you have to always take BPA .if not we (Panthers) would have for example never drafted a HOF LB by the name of Luke Keuchly.

&, why do you often see the exact same teams picking at the top of the draft year in & year out year after year like clock work doing the exact same thing by ignoring BPA & instead drafting for need/fit often times never really seem to find the right players to assemble a winning football team with 

if Jalon Walker is who the Pats think is BPA at #4 then that is most defenitely who they need to draft at #4 ...just saying 

BPA is a lie and I wish we'd stop talking about it like there's a universal power ranking for the draft class. It's meaningless because "best" and "need" are both highly subjective team by team. Most media big boards had Fletcher Cox ahead of Luke.

The good teams have the luxury of low stakes picks and incrementally upgrading the roster because they don't really have needs. The bad teams have needs at critical positions that are hard to draft, as we well know. 

If he locks in he can be great I see the vision

Imagine paying $375 million to replace a guy up for his third Emmy in a row

41 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Panthers reportedly 'intrigued' by Arizona WR Tetairoa McMillan, per Joe Person

McMillan has great size (6-4, 219) and an uncanny ability to high-point the ball. Without blazing speed, there are concerns about his ability to separate. Some in Carolina’s organization are intrigued.

https://pantherswire-eu.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/03/24/2025-nfl-draft-rumors-panthers-tetairoa-mcmillan-interest/82634663007/

Doesn't bode well for their confidence in Leggette IMO. Very similar profile.

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

If you wanted an idea of how bad our team actually was/is, precisely one of our free agents was signed yesterday. 

Darnold and Mayfield making $100m each and their stats since leaving are better than Young's career so far.

Would have been nice but I'm ok with letting him go at that price

The whole idea behind drafting Bryce was that he'd be a distributor so we wouldn't need one. That's how they justified trading our #1 WR to get him. I don't believe the passing game is so bad that we should be abandoning that already, especially now that Bryce is finally coming along. Coker looks good, XL is far from a lost cause, we still have Theilen as some extra insurance. They should draft a burner in the early rounds but it doesn't need to be the first pick.

An incentive based, non-guaranteed contract makes the most sense for the situation but it would make cap management a pain and Bryce might prefer to just test the market when the time comes. In short: it's too soon. 

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Get press the fug out of the locker rooms. You're going to have your press conference, ask your questions there. You don't need to be up in the players' business when they're changing and either celebrating or decompressing. I mean, damn...

And it's a trap to get something out of them in the heat of the moment. Players either have to rattle off some generic non-statement, say something that could get them in trouble, or say nothing and get in trouble.

The NBA sideline interviews are the worst. The guys haven't even caught their breath yet and getting asked to assess the game they just played

20 hours ago, frankw said:

I would say that's a poor choice of words on his part. He can convey the point that the Panthers were in disarray at best when he was drafted without calling the whole roster losers. There definitely were some quality players on that team. At the same time it shouldn't be confused that just any rookie QB would have came into that situation and flourished or gone on to be named rookie of the year. And also while I am very pro 89 there's also the reality that not just any QB let alone a rookie was going to be at all adept at managing his personality.

Anyways I think Cam needs to take a step back and assess this media persona he's created for himself. At some point with how he navigates this he is tarnishing his own brand and legacy for the sake of clicks and social media exposure. I mean he's giving credence to the things people used to say about him especially those who ironically were in the media. He's becoming that which he was victimized by because he still craves the limelight. That's unfortunate.

Cam acts like he's a respected authority who can criticize teams and other quarterbacks. I get why. If all these talking heads who've never thrown a football in their life can speak on it than why not a Heisman winner and MVP? Problem is the narrative that Cam was a gifted player who came up short because of his selfishiness is still alive and well.  So that gets thrown back in his face a lot and he takes the bait everytime. 

It's all been downhill since the Game Changers vs Game Managers stuff. From anyone else that's normal sports talk, but Cam's legacy is still too up in the air to be criticizing the people actively doing it. . Just recently he was asked if he would trade the MVP for a SB ring and it set him up to basically diss his old team. And he has too much of an ego to just state his opinion and stand on it so he tries to defend his legacy and then he becomes the topic of conversation

It's not like in the Carolinas where we blame his shoulder, his coaches, his roster etc. The average NFL fan thinks Cam is still physically capable and just too eccentric, selfish, or inaccurate to be in the league anymore. I don't think he realizes that so he keeps putting himself out there and making it worse.

I was certainly one of the those worried about his demeanor. Big ups to Bryce for putting in the hard work to turn it around. Coachability was ultimately the reason we drafted the guy and he sounds like they were right about his work ethic in the end. 

1 minute ago, flagfootballcoach28 said:

That’s even worse. He lacks self awareness. If he was an all rookie WR, then sure post your weird squirrel videos. But since he was a huge let down, a lot of people don’t want to see him broadcasting himself eating road kill.  Too bad he doesn’t have the same passion for posting videos of him hitting the jugs machine and improving himself on the football field. 

People will hate regardless so let him live. None of it really matters at the end of the day, only what he does on gameday.

On 1/1/2025 at 11:32 AM, electro's horse said:

You can only judge Bryce from after his benching. Talking people on tv said it so his defenders have said it to. 

It's fair to believe that Young's worst is behind him and his floor was raised with the benching. I'm not sold though. The best I can give him so far is that he plays to the level of those around him. I think he could win in the right offense but that he goes back to being the worst QB in football in the wrong offense.

Bryce’s upside is ambiguous because it all depends on how much he can develop that super processor of his