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Young’s bummy but if you can only work with a specific archetype of a QB you’re not a good coach and you definitely shouldn’t be calling plays. Felt the same way about Reich not even trying once he realized he didn’t have Andrew Luck to make him look good anymore.

Y'all realize he'd have to sell two sports franchises to leave Charlotte right

1 hour ago, uncfan888 said:

Listening to the radio defend Bryce this morning is insane. Bone even said he cooled off from his hot start. What hot start? 

When he's out of the league the narrative will be that the Panthers failed him 

35 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Make Chuba the focal point of the team. Plain and simple. 

You would think but we're not even being creative about it. Chuba's actually doing well considering.

Evero is a laughingstock and even if Bryce started cooking at this point Canales' gameplan doesn't really give him or us a chance. Why is the short game so damn bland if that's 80% of the playbook? We get it, his arm is limited, but there has to be some sort of path to victory here. Like what are we even trying to do?

I want Young to succeed but the attempts to rewrite the narrative anytime he musters up a decent game, quarter, drive, etc are getting old. Need consistency first. His ceiling as far as we've seen so far is "not bad sometimes".

Now that he's back in good graces with the organization we gotta take Smith's commentary on the team with a grain of salt. I don't believe the unfiltered Smitty of old would have defended this.

But yeah Charlotte is a fairweather sports town. Every city has transplants; I think the pro teams just haven't been around long enough to build loyalty.

Over or under 4.5 losses in a row before Canales drops the Mr. Nice Coach act?

18 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

And the crazy thing is, there have been guys that have done it at his size.  Flutie and Russ are the first that come to mind.  He just doesn’t have the physical ability to PASS the fuging ball where it needs to go, nor the ability to escape pressure on any meaningful snaps.

The escapism is really what's missing. I actually do think Bryce's awareness and ability to improvise on broken plays is above average--better than when he's throwing in the pocket because it forces the recievers to get seperation and within his line of sight. If he could scramble in the backfield like Seattle Russ until someone got open I believe he'd have the tools to be a franchise QB even with his noodle arm. He did that in college but it hasn't translated to the pro level.

At the end of the day, Young doesn’t offer enough to make up for the limited scheme he requires. He’d have to be laser accurate and make little to no mistakes to dink-and-dunk 50 times a game and win consistently at this level.

What’s worse is that even when it all goes to plan that’s a lot of hospital balls shortening the career of the recievers. I felt bad for Sanders and Renfrow in week 2. 

Nice drives every now and then aren’t going to cut it. Every guy we’ve trotted out there since Cam has been able to impress in spurts.  If Young can’t do that consistently and prevents us from having a deep ball what are we doing?

Bryce can’t afford the bad ball security. Without the turnovers it was a good game from him.

10 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I hate this approach.

There's no guarantee you'll like anyone in the next Draft. You can't just pick a guy 'cos you need a QB. Which is why I advocate looking at the guys with NFL tape and trying to prize one of those away until you DO find the guy in the Draft. 

But granted you're also happy to let Young play out the season, leaving us playing 10v11 all year, so there you go. Different strokes for different folks. 

And there's no guarantee some other team's reject is going to be our prize. We've tried that a few times. I'd sooner bet on a draft pick than a veteran having a resurgence in Carolina at this point.

And yeah I think a big veteran QB signing as if this is a win now roster would be shortsighted

Cam looked like a #1 pick from day one. Literally broke the record for passing yards in a NFL debut and never got the leeway these QBs get now. The narrative to this day is that he wasn't a good passer.  Don't know what you got till it's gone...

On 9/9/2025 at 1:16 PM, Panthera onca said:

After watching Cam Newton put this team on his shoulders and will us to success, it sickens me to watch this soft, entitled, tiny, sensitive simp try to QB this team. 

It’s the media giving him the treatment Cam deserved for me. FOH using drops and college pedigree as excuses now.

Let him play out the year. If he’s as bad as feared we’ll have a top pick to get the next guy. The only advantage in benching him early is to try and preserve his trade stock, but at this point I doubt we’re getting much unless he’s traded after some promising performances

54 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I mean did you see Russell Wilson play Sunday? He was leagues worse than Bryce Young. Honestly some of you are just so stuck in the mud that you think the Panthers are the only team with subpar QB play. Caleb Williams would have had the exact same performance against Jacksonville if he was our QB. Bringing in some jackoff like Aiden OConnell or Sam Howell isn't scoring any more points.

Not saying I’d rather have Russ than Bryce bro I don’t even believe he would have a won out in camp. Point is if Canales didn’t even consider him I doubt Young competing was ever on the table 

Red flag went up for me when Canales publically passed on Russell Wilson. What better way to push Bryce than the SB veteran who put this coach on the map, has a comparative style of play, and believes he's still got it. He probably would have rejected having to fight for a starting role but the fact that Canales didn't even consider his guy tells me there was an order from up top to clear the runway for Young.

6 minutes ago, frankw said:

The every single little thing has to be perfect for him to have marginal success rationale is beyond the pale. This guy was supposed to be a "magician" off script. That was his bread and butter before the draft. Now we need top talent top coaching top to bottom perfection every single time guys lineup etc. These people are insane.

Was typing up basically this when you replied. Without his playmaking from college Young is just Teddy Bridgewater but shorter.

We’re past the talk and hypotheticals with Bryce. If he needs a perfect game from his receivers to not put up a stinker he’s not franchise starter material.

or maybe the hired Football People™ aren't any good

Not concerned about Legette being country. It's that I don't see any hunger out of him. He's been giving a golden opportunity to make a name for himself here and favorable press despite not producing. After last year's perfomance and the team bringing in a rookie over him I'd hope he come out with something to prove and I'm not seeing it. He seems more passionate about ranching and frankly he's not talented enough to treat the NFL like it's just a dayjob.

The cruel irony of Bryce is that game manager is his ceiling 

6 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I’ve said it in other threads.  He belongs in the NFL, but we aren’t using him correctly.  I’ll give him the rest of this season to see how it pans out, but then again, it’s also hard to judge him because we don’t have a guy who can get him the ball in his areas of strength.  I know some compared him to DK when he came out, which is possibly an apt comparison, but with a noodle armed middle schooler at QB, it’s impossible to know that.  DK isn’t known for being ultra agile and making ridiculous, ballerina-tight rope catches.  DK is a force of nature.  A big body guy who is freakishly athletic and relies greatly on strength and straight-line speed.  That’s how I see XL at best.  At worst, I envisioned him as a bigger version of Deebo.  Again, a guy that isn’t ultra agile or quick, but big, strong, physical, and fast, but as you mentioned, Deebo worked because they were great at figuring out how to get the ball in his hands in creative ways and at scheming him open on routes.  In my estimation, none of these three are route technicians.  But the way DK and Deebo developed, that gave me hope for what XL could or can be.  I still believe he can be that dominant, but with Bryce, he is not in an offense that will foster that kind of development.

It’s my belief that just like in the preseason, when the guy pulling the trigger can’t get guys the ball in their preferred spots, it not only hinders immediate results, but it also makes it impossible to evaluate what we have.  I would like to see what XL can develop into, but as long as they keep trotting Bryce out there, that domino effect fugs everything else up.

The noodle arm plays right into XL's supposed jumpball speciality and its why he was brought here. If he has butterfingers with Bryce's floaters I don't know how more zip on the ball would help.

Really wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt but Tetairoa being a 1-on-1 threat out the gate makes it difficult. Two different levels of prospects, I know, but if XL can't bring win those more often than not he's useless to us. Ginn and Benjamin had special traits that we stomached the drops for. 

8 hours ago, frankw said:

I agree about his coaching style and personality. The youth pastor thing needs to go. It will not work with this franchise.

It also certainly stings that Canales just got throttled by Liam Coen who was his replacement in Tampa Bay last year. The same guy who also got roasted for that cringe attempt at doing a Duval chant.

We'll know who Canales really is very soon regardless. He's made his own bed. And Morgan should not get a pass in any way shape or form either. He deserves all the smoke too.

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