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17 minutes ago, TD alt said:

McMillan is the 7th overall receiver in the NFL right now. 

Bryce is the 19th overall QB in the league mind you and only ahead of Tua among QBs with atleast 12 games. 

1 hour ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

He's fast so .. uhh... send him deep every play to drag off defenders, to open things up for TMac and Coker. Don't do anything stupid and actually pass him the ball though.

 This is the best use of him. He'll get open inevitably when defenses crowd the box on Bryce.

I don't think being a podcaster has been good for Steve. There was a time where I thought he had learned from the immaturity of his playing days. The Shannon Sharpe interview he talked about going to therapy, battling depression, wishing he had been a better teammate, it seemed like he genuinely was a changed man and in a better place mentally. And then his behavorial care facility in Charlotte felt like nice closure on it all.

But then he started doing more podcasts and stuff and all that kind of unraveled. Steve strikes me as a guy who absolutely reads the comments and has to say something back. It's part of what makes him entertaining as analyst, but I think working for the NFL Network helped him keep it all in check. Like his beef with Jeff Jeudy started off with disrespectful but in the end he kept it professional and apologized.  He doesn't have to answer to anyone on his podcast so there's no filter when the old Smitty pops back out. I'm not a therapist but I'm not sure it's a healthy platform for a guy battling a lifelong chip on his shoulder.

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

They really fuged up by not trying to score at the end of the half

which team are we talking about 

Wait was it the Falcons? I was distracted, could have sworn the panthers ran the clock out.

The choice to kneel instead of trying to get into FG range at the end of the half was very telling.

Before Sunday we were on pace to start exploring other options in the offseason but I think he bought himself another year like this one.

2 hours ago, LegioX said:

If Bryce starts showing some damn consistency I will hop on the Bryce train and cheer him on. But for 3 years we have seen nothing but periods of bad, to really bad games, to maybe 1-2 games where he looks like a #1 pick. I still believe he is not the fit for this team. Just because you can “consistently” beat the falcons doesn’t mean your good. 

This was the first time that he's looked like a #1 pick to me but I agree totally. We can work with this as his ceiling but his floor needed to be "not bad" more often than not to make it sustainable. That's what a gamemanager is to me anyway. Rare that he's going to blow the top off a defense but the also rare that he chokes the game away. Bryce is not quite at the right ratio yet but the progress is encouraging.

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. 

Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson. 

Yeah this is the big irony of the whole saga. Everyone acted like it was the only question mark for him but it's been the least of our worries.

XL's not the bust here

Bryce and Jaycee hold this L

I’ve seen enough

Bryce has just been ok, which is progress for him and thanks to Rico is good enough for now. The best I can say is I think we'll know what we have in him by the end of the season, and that's all this year is about really.

33 minutes ago, Mage said:

There is no "mythos" around Bryce Young except in your head. 

The mythos is that Bryce Young is an elite QB trapped in an undersized body but since they've been saying it for his entire time in the league I guess it doesn't count to you. Don't know what else to tell you.

Until Rico gave them another storyline to work the national talking point after every Panthers win was how it looked like Bryce Young was starting to turn the corner.

3 minutes ago, Mage said:

Do you have any evidence of this?

Literally the first article that pops up when you google Bryce Young right now is, "Insider says Bryce Young isn't going to be a superstar, but that's fine." Source

Can you show me at least one source from a legitimate media rep that shows them building a mythos around Bryce Young?  No media outlet is going to outright say Bryce sucks - he's a nice guy by all accounts.  But I haven't seen anyone try and act like Bryce is anything more than he is.  But maybe I'm wrong, and you can show me.

And see, even me making this post will get me labeled a "Bryce Apologist", even though I have been out on him the last two seasons.

I think we have some revisionist around it here because of all the drama around Tepper's involvement. If you pull up any scouting report from the time you'll see the same take. WalterFootball's report sums up the media's thoughts on him well: "Young has everything the NFL is looking for in a quarterback except in terms of weight and height." He was the consensus top QB of his draft and the only real question mark they had about him was whether his body could hold up in the NFL.

The infamous Steph Curry comparison the Panthers latched onto came from Albert Breer.

The excuses I've heard for him are more anecdotal. Bryce Young's development is the only bullet point most NFL fans have on the Panthers right now. That and the coaching turnover. If you're not actually watching our games it's easy to believe this is just a dysfunctional organization that doesn't know how to unleash this talented Heisman winner.  I've seen media and fans alike run with that narrative way more than criticizing Young outright. Whenever we win there's flocks who use it as proof that the Panthers just need to be patient.

1 minute ago, Mage said:

Why do we keep using this language?  I really don't get it. Call me soft, that is okay.  But it seems unnecessary.  

DEI/woke is out edgelord trolling is back in

10 hours ago, Jmac said:

Defense and Dowdle is the ticket. One hundred to one fifty yards a game is Youngs ceiling. Let him use his legs in situations where he can get some positive yards. He will never be a gun slinger, throwing darts all over the field.

A "game manager" is obviously his skill set. Taking the throws he can make and not making stupid mistakes is his game.They can win with this formula, they have no choice. Supplement Chuba when needed. This win wasn't luck.

Keep Pounding

This was always the plan with Bryce. It shouldn't be controversial. Now he's just gotta get to where defenses fear his accuracy and it'll open up the field for Rico 

The media created the mythos around Young and they’re going with it until the wheels fall off

The aversion to tying up too much money in the ground game when it’s what’s winning us games is crazy to me. I get letting Rico walk if you think he’s easily replaceable but I don’t see many people arguing that, just applying an arbitrary salary cap based on what we think RBs are currently worth.

I’d rather be stuck with Hubbard as an overpaid backup (not the worst one to have, mind you) than lose out on the most productive player on the offense personally.

On 10/30/2025 at 11:31 AM, ForJimmy said:

4th round pick would be a nice return 

Chuba was a fourth round pick

Doesn't matter to me whether it was for Chuba's sake or a strategic move it was amateurish. I'm not against trying to make a two headed running game out of them but that was the worst way he could have went about it.

Tepper remotely controls from his box seat with a VR headset. Codename "Football Person".

The leash is long and there's still time but he definitely exposed himself as not the offensive wiz he was cracked up to be. Looking like your average OC cosplaying as head coach. I feel like you could swap him and Evero and the results would be about the same

7 hours ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

He will retire at the end of the season. Canales already said in the press conference that he will continue being the back up. 
 

The real question will be who do they get in the offseason to either A) provide competition in QB room or B) have a competent back up for situations like this. 
 

The problem is can you really have B without A? 

If no competition we should really consider a situational backup like Taysom Hill instead of someone who can simply fill in for Young. Imagine a big guy with a cannon we could throw out there for certain downs to keep defenses on their toes. 

miss bryce tbh

Still believe Horn and Brown were the right choice but good for Burns.

I think more about an alternative universe where we kept McCaffery. Probably for the best we moved on when we did but he might have been the perfect weapon for Bryce, and it would have been nice to see him used more strategically than Rhule did.