CPcavedweller

Right. Giving him the Kelci like tight end to scheme on the fly with, while also drafting the smaller, jet speed receiver as the Dolphins have done, would make this offense very difficult to stop in my opinion. If five touchdown Bryce was not an anomaly, he can be really good, and the offense can be really efficient. I just don't want Tommy Tremble's menial contract to be given as a reason why you wouldn't take Warren. He is different from Bowers in his build. He's not quite as fluid but Bowers is built more like an H Back than a Tight End. He is different from LaPorta and Kincaid in that he is far more fluid of an athlete. Again, I will die on this hill, but he is Kelci. He was a high school quarterback, he can run, he can throw, and he knows soft spots of the defense, as does Bryce at this point. We aren't taking him though, and this will be my last comment on it. Glad I found someone like minded on this.

No it doesn't. But, it is what it is. I was born in the early 90's so I grew up with the Panthers. I've grown to expect disappointment in who they pick. Times it worked out were with Star, KK, and Luke. I was fine with Cam but obviously at the time, no one knew really what to expect of how his game would translate. Anyone who watches college football has seen Georgia play because they are on, all the time. As an App State fan, I can say that in a vacuum, I was probably as impressed with Mike Green and Josiah Stewart, as well as Nate Johnson (who just transferred from App to Mizzou), as I was Georgia's ends. They are physical freaks as you'd expect, but the results just don't align with their measureables and who they were playing next to. Give me Warren, take a DT in the 2nd, Josiah Stewart in the third, Restrepo or Skattebo in the 4th. Then maybe take another flyer on a DT later and another pass rusher in the 6th. We can't give up what we gave up for Bryce and not at least give him a tight end. I will die on that hill that Warren should be the pick, even though I know he won't be.

Taking an inside linebacker at 8 would be a good plan, historically.

I know I’m not getting any individual or philosophy I want in this draft and that’s fine, as that’s been my experience as a Panthers fan. If Graham falls I’d like the Panthers to take him and then take Josiah Stewart in the third round. Perhaps pick up Xavier Restrepo in the 4th and a burner in the 2nd. I still believe our team will be better suited by taking Warren though. Our defense cannot be as bad as it was last year and there isn’t a huge gap in defensive talent in the first three rounds of this draft.

Buffalo literally follows the Carolina model. It works for them because of their stability and their drafts have hit. They also play in a garbage division.

Sanders took a lot of sacks, sure. But he also had one of the best completion percentages against the blitz, best passer ratings against pressure, etc. The sack number doesn't bother me because his numbers when facing pressure are so good.

Not if he takes Warren and the Panthers win 10 games and dude has 10 touchdowns and Bryce has 40 total touchdowns. Had he played at the pace of his scoring after his benching, he would’ve had around 40 touchdowns so that’s not impossible. The depth of defense in this draft is wild, and the drop in talent is not that high. Take Warren Dan. take, Warren. Do it.

You're all forgetting that Jeanty could have played anywhere he wanted to in 2024, and started. But he stayed at Boise State. I would take him on character alone.

You're moving the goal posts here. He provided them. I like Hampton, but put him at Boise State. do you think he has 2,600 yards?

"Gettlenuts suckssss"

2013 is low.

Also, Stew is GOAT. So GTFO with that.

So you're comparing Sam LaPorta to Hunter Henry and Freiermuth? I watched enough of Penn State to know that Warren is closer to Kelci in terms of fluid movement than any of them. That is why he is rated as highly as he is. Give the mini-Mahomes his Kelci. If we had listened to me in 2023 none of this would be necessary but here we are.

Your username is a hint of how bad you are at this. That aside. Who is saying we need a Top 10 player at every position? Most of us are just saying Warren because he would give us that big, physical, fluid athlete at the TE position that would pair well with the style of ball Bryce likes to play. The issue isn't whether you have good tight ends or not. Plenty of guys are good at the position. Most of them are not as fluid of athletes as you see with Kelci, and I think Warren is that kind of guy. Furthermore, it could open the field up for the rest of the offense.

You want to know who to pick? And this is easy, you take Tyler Warren first, Kenneth Grant second, Josiah Stewart third, Xavier Restrepo fourth, maybe Cam Skattebo 5th... Man, it's NOT HARD. At all.

Do you want to die on that hill? And what is "inferior"? How "inferior" is the Mountain West to the ACC, really? There isn't as big of a gap as ESPN would like for you to believe. You also have to remember that he is playing behind a Boise State offensive line. He isn't playing behind Georgia's line in the Mountain West. So what you call "inferior", I call a level playing field. If he was just another dude who beat up on smaller schools, he wouldn't be considered to be drafted where he is.

Warren is as fluid as Travis Kelci. Every other guy you mentioned but Bowers are stiff and they play stiff. The flexibility Kelci provides KC cannot be understated. As for you don't see what separates him? His highlight tape says enough. As for the volume issue, or "high school running back issue". The guy was the best player from the 3rd or 4th best team in the country. This ain't no 1A high school championship running back. This is your 7A running back in Texas who had 350 carries and 75 tackles.

Skattebo, Warren, and Restrepo are my wish list. I'd like Josiah Stewart out of Coastal...erm...Michigan too, and he can be had on Day 3. With the offensive line playing the way it was, and five tuddy Bryce playing the way he has been, the running back room, tight end room, and receiver room all of the sudden look a whole lot better if you add those three. Restrepo, Theilen, and Warren to go along with Xavier to take the top off would present issues for any defense in the league. You got the carvers, you got the deep threat, and you've got the wrecking ball.

It isn’t hard to project. Take Warren, Dan. This isn’t hard. The defensive picks on the line are talented deep into the third round this year. There are two elite tight end prospects. Take Warren.

Warren had over 100 receptions as a Tight End on a team that made it to the semi-finals of the playoff. He was the best player on one of the final four best teams. And if Loveland is better, trade down and take Warren. Both are fine but Warren is a fluid athlete and Loveland is far more stiff in the hips. If you wanted Bryce to have a Kelci, you would take Warren. I think Bryce would benefit massively from having a tight end like Kelci as well. You’ve seen Mahomes efficiency drop as Kelci has aged. You saw Brady’s efficiency drop when Gronk retired. If you still think Bryce is a mini-Mahomes, you’ve got to get him a guy he can just scheme up with on the fly.

Why do we need to draft a safety? We don’t. We just pulled a big money safety in Free Agency and wasting a pick there when your front four needs to be fixed is what will lead to continual problems. Speaking of which, I don’t even think Walker or Williams will fix that. I would pass on them and go defense in the 2nd round where the talent drop off is really not that big. So take the BPA. Take Warren. Morgan, if you read this, you must draft Tyler Warren.

It won’t happen but those are two Pro Bowl players, almost guaranteed in my opinion. take the Coastal NT in the 2nd round (I think he transferred but I remember him from Coastal). We don’t need DB’s, either way. If we draft corner at any point I’m going to lose it. Corners are only as good as the front 4.

Then maybe I need to publish mine. Had the Panthers followed my mock two years ago we would have had three more Pro Bowl players in 2024.

At 8, you don’t pick to “take another step”. You pick to set a fuging stone. Take Warren. You can pick up the former Coastal NT who began his career there as a Tight End in the second round. He will do just as much to help the run defense as either of the Georgia guys. Take Restrepo in the 3rd if he’s there, if he’s not, take Skattebo. Then you’ll have Tush Push with Cam and Warren to go with your new NT who was once a TE.

Out of prison I see. Hope all went well for you!