CPcavedweller

My question is what could someone with more physical ability do given the same set of parameters? Canales has shown he can revive careers. I wonder what he could do with someone like, say, Jaxson Dart, Shedeur Sanders, Cam Ward, etc. Players with traditional measurables with adequate athleticism and fundamentals. Someone you don’t have to re-design the wheel for. I think he has the potential to be a great coach.

Watching the Giants makes me think Tepper should fire himself. Both Dillon Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders have outplayed Bryce. Dart has outplayed Bryce. Ward has played about like Bryce but with 10x more upside. Maybe it’s just preseason but man, it really doesn’t feel like it.

Trade Plummer and a fifth for Shedeur. Let Shedeur stew with Canales for a year then have an open competition next offseason with Bryce and Shedeur. That’s my opinion and I’m sticking to it. I don’t know that Bryce is the guy, and it’s about time he be challenged to perform. Whatever he does in the offseason clearly doesn’t work. Let him go into next year having to look over his shoulder and see how he responds. Note: this is an overreaction thread. I’m entitled to my opinion.

I mean what you would give up for a Number 3 QB is minimal. Shedeur is at minimum a second round talent on a 5th round contract. I’d like to see what Canales could do with him with no pressure to compete, or look behind him, for a year. He showed as much promise as I’d seen from Bryce up until the Falcons game last season. That’s worth a late round flyer. Kindly note this is never going to happen so it’s really not even worth replying to. But it’s something I’d explore as GM/Head Coach. It’s also Teppers wet dream, if he worked out. No doubt the Browns are going to fumble the situation they find themselves in.

We are still reaping what we sowed from the Bryce trade. In that draft I wanted to trade down and do the following: 1. Re-sign Darnold 2. Re-sign Wilks 3. re-sign Foreman 4. Get Dalton Kincaid/O’Cyrus Torrance 5. Draft Charbonnet 6. Draft Mimms Now clearly this isn’t a detailed plan but it is an outline of what likely would have turned into a successful core of an outline for building the talent of the team. All of this is in my post history as well. But it’s sad that my decision making, on paper, three years ago, would have been better than what we’ve seen from Tepper’s meddling. Now I’m onboard something else that will not happen and that is offer to ship a fifth and Jack Plummer to the Browns for Shedeur. Either way, they will be the 3rd/scout team QB with the difference being that Shedeur could develop into an NFL starter on an extremely friendly deal that could result in the ability to build out a core of talent on this team. We’ve also seen what Canales can do with at minimum, NFL QB traits.

The last time we only scored one touchdown in preseason, 2010. Game three better be right or we are screwed again, and Bryce is gone. unpopular take, see what the Browns want for Shedeur. Run him as third QB for the year, see what you have with him next year. If he doesn’t work out, he doesn’t work out but if he does, you basically offset some of the cost to get Bryce. I know it’s preseason and I’m trying not to overreact but it doesn’t look good fellas.

None of this is new information.

As long as we don’t go back to Frank Reich where we would throw out of shotgun and run from under center, almost exclusively, I’ll be perfectly fine. Run empty sets and make the reads easier for the QB’s. If we have the receiving core for it, go for it.

Part of me has started prepping for more 42-14 regular season scores. It wasn't the Browns game that did that because it is preseason. But it exposed the lack of depth the Panthers have. Also, the fact the Browns 2nd team managed to get to the Panthers 21, before ultimately winning out on a 4th and 1 where Stefanski went empty with a rookie QB, is concerning. The Browns also should have had a first down their first drive but Diontae dropped a ball and the receiver didn't get enough depth on 2nd down where he caught the ball at the sticks. concern level is high.

Mike Jackson and Jaycee are both really good, as a duo, as well. They got disrespected in this. I also think they overvalue our QB room. Even though the Browns have Flacco, Pickett, and Sanders, I'd put them over Young and Dalton.

From where he started, it was a leap. In terms of NFL QB play, it was hardly average. We got so used to the team being so utterly and completely terrible that any improvement seemed massive. He next step is average. It isn't Top 10. It's Top 16. If we tank again this year, he is probably gone. At which point I say we trade for someone on a favorable contract with high upside. But that's just me.

3-4 doesn't suck. It all depends on your personnel, and how you use them. Personally, I like the 4-3 and the flexibility that affords in going to nickel coverage while still maintaining a true four man front. That said, Evero shouldn't be employed by the Carolina Panthers right now. Literally no one in NFL history could have LED a defense to the worst defense in NFL history and still manage to have a job. That is absurd.

The team isn’t going to be kicking 70 yard field goals unless time is running out. That leaves the opposing team also only needing about 12 yards to be in FG range.

We really talking about firing Canales already? Come on guys.

Sounds like you need to go work for a new company if this type of humor isn't appreciated.

He struggled against starters? He got the offense to the Panthers 21, where Stefanski in his infinite wisdom went into an empty set, where Wonnum, I believe, made it into the backfield virtually untouched in about 0.62 seconds. The first drive should have been extended but Johnson missed a catch and I believe their tight end, or slot receiver, didn't get the correct depth on a hitch. I don't think he struggled against any of the Panthers defense if I'm being honest. And if that's what his struggling looks like, then trade for him now. I've seen struggle the past two years, that wasn't it.

And had he not looked good then you would have said “see, he sucks”. All I know is that he looked like a first round quarterback. If he works out, like Mr. Ochocinco said, some people are getting fired. He’s a massive brand and him being successful could completely shift the vibe in Cleveland, sort of how Can did for Charlotte.

He looked about how I expected. People are going to say he held the ball too long on the scrambles but Patrick Mahomes does that 6 times a game. The same exact thing. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. Scramble and find an open guy. that’s part of what makes Mahomes, Mahomes, ya know? The two touchdowns were starting QB throws though. Jaxson Dart looked good too. Cam Ward, to me, looked horrible. I know his stat line was okay but man his mechanics are the worst for a starting QB in the league right now. He threw more than half of his balls off of his back foot with zero pressure on him.

See, that’s disinformation too. You cannot possibly get under my skin in any way, shape, or form. I told you I hated that word.

I want to see the two pass rushers make passing up Jalen Walker, or whatever his name was, make sense. I also want to see Tet make my preference for Golden or Warren look stupid (I don't think he will. I think my belief in needing Warren or Golden will be reaffirmed but I'm not even an armchair GM. I'm just a chair. So broke I can't have an armchair).

I'll withhold judgment on Pickens until he gets balls from an actual QB. Kenny Pickett is hot garbage. I also think Arthur Smith is an issue in Pittsburgh. Perhaps it's Tomlin, I don't know.

That's disinformation. There is a controversy that began when teams were leaking that they wouldn't consider taking Sanders before he ever even had a workout or an interview. Tyler Shough was taken before him for crying out loud. Dylan Gabriel who is half the athlete of Bryce Young yet the same height. Jalen Milroe who lost to Vanderbilt with the collection of talent that Alabama has. Jaxson Dart who was average, at best, in a Lane Kiffin offense which is known to actually be a detriment to QB prospects. There certainly was controversy, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

Chase and Higgins are the only real competition here. Those are two true 1's. I wouldn't want Pickens or Lamb on the Panthers, because of the attitudes, but as receivers, they are probably the best or second best duo. Both, like Chase and Higgins, are true ones. We also don't know what Pickens can really do considering who he has had throwing him the ball.

you're out of your depth here bud. Again, with the misinformation. I don't have and never have been prescribed anything but an antibiotic after I met your mom once.

Nah. If I prefer anything it's Hill and the other dude in Miami. But I still think this duo in Dallas is really good. Doesn't matter because none of them are making it to the Superb Owl anyway.