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Where has he personally made anything "clear"? Every report I've seen has said that we are a contender! We've seen some reports that says he is considering us in a positive light. I don't think we can say that about the Jets--maybe Miami, but they have the question of Tua!

Stafford hasn't had a bad career. He was down a little bit in 2019 (where he may have been injured iirc), but 2020 was solid! In the right situation, his game may even rise! The Lions have been dog poo! We all know it! The man hasn't had the best support! Is he inspiring enough? Has he put the team on his back and won enough games in the fourth quarter? Has he had the supporting cast to do it with consistency? Or, has he shown consistency in that department notwithstanding fair to middling talent? These are the type of questions that we should be considering.

If the price is too high for Watson, it may still be too high for Stafford. I wouldn't trade my 8 for Stafford! I'd go young! Of course it's all predicated upon our beliefs and desire about the 2021 crop of QBs. I should say "their" beliefs. I'm rolling with them, so whatever they decide will be good with me.

It's not "common sense", it's a deduction based upon our circumstances!

I've found Gantt's opinions to be gratuitously snarky, especially as it pertains to the Panthers, but his info isn't necessarily incorrect. He's always had some access--even more now, but this statement is not necessarily an endorsement or indicator; It's food for thought!

Contractual obligations aside, if someone tells you that they're going to do something and fail to do it, they've lied. Moreover, I'm not going to bore you about a verbal contract, or leading someone on with lies in order to get them to sign the contract, but suffice it to say that a man's word is still supposed to mean something. In any event, McNair is a liar... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2768551-bob-mcnair-i-regret-apologizi-inmates-comment-about-nfl-players ...and probably worse! https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thestate.com/sports/nfl/article181508331.html I don't blame Watson for forcing his hand, and like I said, I hope that he plays hardball with McNair.

Doesn't anyone else find it kinda funny that this story comes out on the heels of the other one?

I think you're correct about Huddle valuation, and I posted as much earlier in the thread. Many have us giving away the farm! I doubt it goes that way. It won't go that way!

You're preaching to the choir!

Ask the Rockets. They saw the writing on the wall and did the sensible thing. You think that paying top dollar for a backup QB won't affect the Texans' bottom line. How many games did they win last season, much less pre-Watson?

I already know that most go broke, but that's because they're either ignorant or stupid. Watson is neither!

If they keep him locked up in contractual purgatory, his refusal to play for them, or, worse, play under contentious circumstances that affect and effect the desired results, will bring them to their knees, and they're already pretty low!

It sounds like you're putting 19th and 20th century antiquated solutions on a pedestal, but there's a better way to do things in this day and age... Anyway, Watson is already a multi millionaire, who literally has to never work again in life depending on how he manages his money, and will still be able to afford all those things that you mentioned. The fact is is that he has a modicum of control in this situation whether you like it or not! And, if he decides that he's done playing for the Texans, the trade will happen, and it's going to be to a destination that he wants to go to! That's the bottom line!

Not only that, but Fitterer has earned his lunch money scouting mid to later round players and UDFAs! You can't be a scared motherfuger, and the Seahawks, as well as other successful franchises, aren't timid about trades or trading back and somehow still continue to compete year in and out!

I don't get into the minutiae of these contractual rules, but appreciate the people that do. I learned something!

But they will take contracts into consideration. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have a strong possibility of happening! Trade opportunities like this just don't come along! Of course you're going to have to give something of value to get something of value. I just think that many Huddlers just don't have any idea how to valuate the players. They act like CMC's contract is such the impediment, or they think we should give up two first round players--or more--plus multiple first round picks--and day two picks (like our players, who are on cheap contracts by the way, relatively have little value). I don't believe any of that's the case. We can make a deal if all parties involved wants a deal! No one is going to come away in the perfect situation.

McNair is a lying POS, and apparently hasn't learned his lesson. I mean, he ain't gonna let the inmate rule him! He can just lie to Watson with impunity and act like everything's all good! And you're supporting that? Talking about a lack of a moral compass...

Moral compass? So much for yours! This ain't the 1800s. No one can make you work if you don't want to! If you feel lied to and otherwise exploited, feel like the front office sold you a bill of goods or have acted in bad faith, or simply feel like your boss is a low-key racist motherfuger, you can quit! The Texans can't force him to do anything either!

LOL @ Harden being a low character guy! He got exactly what he wanted, and anybody of import is holding it against him! The Texans' hand will be forced one way or another, and Watson will get paid by them in dead cap, AND by someone else--top dollar! That's the power of the no-trade clause!

I hope he plays hardball with the Texans. Just like Harden basically manipulated the situation by half-assing it with the Rockets, Watson can do the same thing with the Texans, and it ain't really poo they can do about it. They can sit him down, but he's still going to be getting paid! They don't need those types of problems because it can screw up team morale and chemistry, and set them back even further. Their best bet is to take a reasonable deal and get out of the situation (of their making) ASAP!

The plot thickens, as Fox Sports analyst Jason McIntyre has heard things... "...the Carolina Panthers are a potential player...according to Fox Sports analyst Jason McIntyre." McIntyre said Friday on Colin Cowherd's show that Watson has told those close to him that he wouldn't rule out playing for Matt Rhule in Charlotte. "While I was prepping for this segment I had somebody influential in the league text me and say the team I've heard is the Carolina Panthers, a deep sleeper for Deshaun Watson," McIntyre said. "Apparently, he is telling some folks he would not mind going home. He grew up in Atlanta, about four hours from Carolina and Matt Rhule has set up a pretty good foundation there in Carolina ... they have a lot of good offensive weapons." --Via 247 Sports via Cowherd https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/Deshaun-Watson-Carolina-Panthers-Houston-Texans-trade-159762257/Amp/ Take it for what it's worth...

I feel the same way, though I believe we could trade back maybe 8-10 spots if he believes we can still get our guy! I think he is kind of taking this as an opportunity that he may not have going forward! I'm thinking that we have to be getting a QB (unless we acquire Watson)!

I told y'all last month that Teddy is toast. After hearing Fitt talk about his definition of a franchise QB having the ability to put the team on his shoulders and win the game in the fourth quarter, I believe it 100 percent. Teddy is like the antithesis of what Fitt's looks for in a franchise QB. Teddy's really a failure at the priority trait that Fitt wants. And, make no mistake, it is the priority because Fitt mentioned it twice!

I doubt that we trade back out of the way half of the first! It sounds like Fitterer is pretty confident in his belief that pick 18 is about the very latest that teams can be sure to get an impact player.

I won't be surprised, but Jones has limitations when considering the modern NFL franchise QB.