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Lef tackle is the BLIND side for right handed QBs. That's why they get paid so much. If your LT is getting dog walked into the QB in 2 seconds, that is not the QB's fault. Geez people. You would only say that about Bryce Young. Truth is Chase was beating Ickey like a drum all game - against the run and the pass. It wasn't speed rushes either. He overpowered him all day. Bryce basically escaped multiple sacks throughout the game. Dalton would have gone down at least 7 or 8 times yesterday, including that play. 

38 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

TE is pretty dire but I don’t think Canales offense really needs one if it’s clicking.

Tet is good already. Coker is VERY good, like when he gets out of Carolina he’s going to go insane somewhere.

obviously XL just needs to be cut 

TMac I'm sorry. He's pretty good. He's not good. Coker is good. He really is a smart, tough and reliable receiver. His only real negative is a lack of top end speed. If that dude had XL's physical ability, he'd be one of the best in the league. TMac is young. He's probably not what he was billed to be yet, but we've seen flashes. He'll be better than all of them in a year or two. He lacks true WR1 speed, but his ability to make tough catches is why he went before Egbuka and Luther. Unfortunately he really hasn't made a lot of tough catches when given the opportunity. I'd say Coker has just as many wow receptions as TMac, with a 1/4 of the targets. He has great instincts (that can't really be taught) but loses focus on catches way too much. 2 big drops yesterday. XL is a step above Mingo right now. He is not a natural receiver. I really hope the light turns on for him. His potential is through the roof. JT Sanders will likely be better in a season or two, but he ain't there yet. Not tough or reliable. Evans lacks athleticism. Tremble is the best of that group and he's an unreliable target as well. But I love his CRAZY when the ball is in his hands. He is who he is at this point. 

Yesterday's game was a really good example of where our receivers are compared to other teams. The little things like working back to the ball, high pointing intermediate passes with strong hands, catching in traffic, beating tight coverage. The Saints receivers probably saved 2 INTs yesterday on late and badly placed passes from Shough. So yes, he has all the confidence in the world to let it rip. I'll watch the All-22, but I'm thinking (like most every game) Bryce isn't confident in his receivers to make plays or bail him out on tight coverage throws. But at least he is taking deep shots now. Honestly think it's time to get Jimmy Horn in the game. We need some juice on the field in a big big way. 

1 hour ago, frankw said:

When Bryce looks good we have weapons. When Bryce gets outplayed by a rookie 8 games into his career suddenly we have nobody.

I love this place.

Not me. I have never thought this team had legit NFL caliber weapons. I think they have potential, but right now we probably have the worst WRs and TEs in the NFL. Sorry, just facts. 

Team doesn't have real playmakers except for Coker. And his big plays are based on mismatches most of the time. 

We don't have that guy at WR, RB or TE. We have a bunch of big possession receivers and TEs. Unfortunately only one of them can catch consistently.

It's time for Jimmy Horn to get more plays. He needs to be developed. Just take the lumps for 4-5 weeks, but he needs to get on the field.

So what game have we played where our WRs and TEs were better than our opponents?

This team man

Just now, CPantherKing said:

Bryce was giving himself up and the defender never tried to avoid the hit. No penalty?

Meanwhile Derrick just falls on Shough's late slide and he gets a penalty. Brown even had his hands up as if to say I ain't trying to kill this dude 

That's not a catch

Just now, Carolina Cajun said:

because Evero is such an utter dogshit worthless sack of crayon eating poo as a DC

We actually have guys that can press right now. Weird that he feels comfortable in man with a 10+ yards cushion. 

Why are we afraid to press man

He's just throwing to wide open WRs with no pressure. Evero needs to get aggressive. 

Blitz and press!!!

Canales!?

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Scourton is known as a high effort guy but that was pretty low effort on that Shough scramble.

Agree but he was held on that play too.

Rozeboom is A$$!!!

I'll say it. Coker is the best WR on the team. And it ain't even that close. Unpopular opinion... he would have caught that ball TMac dropped at the end of the half. Just saying. 

1 minute ago, frankw said:

If we can't pop them in the mouth we don't deserve the division or a playoff spot.

Agree. Especially coming off a bye. But these boys are gonna push any team in NFL right now. Their confidence is through the roof.

Just now, frankw said:

Nobody said easy but the Saints are simply not a very good football team.

The fact people are out here pooing posts over this is comical. Truth hurts.

The Saints have a lot of fight. They ain't laying down for any team right now.

Just now, Kuhndog94 said:

Shough getting bailed out by his receivers doesn't change the fact that Bryce threw that one a tad too short. 

The point is WRs make plays when they're targeted. If you only catch the ball when it's a perfect pass and you're wide open, then you're just a guy. TMac will tell you he should have brought that in.

So yall just watched 2 amazing catches from nobodies on the Saints to bail Trough out, yet THAT was a bad throw by Bryce? Come on man. Like I keep trying to tell yall, our WRs and TEs are not good. Yet.

Took 2 amazing catches by guys that aren't known for amazing catches. Defense is fine. Offense needs to answer with at least a FG.

50 minutes ago, mrBdawg said:

I have absolutely no idea wtf he was doing with his hands on that deep ball. He must have misjudged the ball. His route running actually looked pretty damn good tho

He did everything right but catch the ball. Kept his hands out in front, palms away from his body, watched it in, and then dropped the dam ball!

Text book up until he dropped it. 

7 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Sills is surprising me.  I knew he had all the hype as a QB in HS and eventually switched to receiver, but I assumed his path to and while in the league would ultimately be unimpressive.  He looked damn good tonight and that catch was so fuging clutch.

Huh? He dropped a lot of passes including a wide open one where the db fell down and he could have walked into the end zone. He had a couple of good catches at the end but he had some horrible drops that could have lost them the game.

I really think Bryce has been given so much time due to what they've put around him. In a vacuum, he hasn't been good enough. But I think we tend to be overly judgemental with him because he's our QB. Every fan base does it. You see every mistake, not just the highlights/lowlights. I've listened to Cowboys fans crap on Dak and Ravens fans crap on Lamar. 

How many WRs from Bryce's rookie season are still making plays today? Probably a few starting olinemen from that year are out of the league too. Hell even his HC is out of the NFL and his OC is a TE coach right now. How many WRs from last season, Bryce's second year (other than the rookies) are making plays in the NFL today? And now in his third year, he's been passing to rookies and second year players. And the only one that was highly touted was TMac. Heck Coker wasn't even drafted, and he's easily been the second best receiver on the team. And let's not even get started on how bad the defense has been. When a team is constantly playing from behind, and/or being ran off the field (time of possession), it greatly impacts the offense's chemistry and playcalling. Look at the young QBs that are playing well right now. All of those teams have great defenses. Houston, Denver, Patriots, Cleveland, even the Saints defense has been on a bit of a tear recently. 

I agree he needs to be more consistent. But to be fair, so does his supporting cast. He had some horrible fumbles early in the season. I beat him up over that just like everyone else. But we wouldn't have said that if it was Stafford. We would have rightly blamed it on the oline for allowing jail breaks when they weren't even outnumbered on blitzes, and to top it off he was throwing to a bunch of young receivers. He killed teams for blitzing him the end of last season. I don't think he forgot what to do. I think his receivers didn't know what to do. They were all young and new, other than XL, and DCs exploited that. The team is developing right now. And amazingly Bryce is playing better. Funny how that works. Let's just enjoy the ride and see where it takes us. Getting there is half the fun, and the team is actually ahead of schedule. 

1 hour ago, strato said:

Allowing that to happen once, bad enough. But okay. Learn from it. Allowing it on the heels of the first one? It was was a clear dereliction by LA.

We sort of got a free one the second time. 

Nah, 2 great routes/adjustments with 2 great passes. Forbes is their best corner and has been playing very well this season, for a team widely considered to be a super bowl contender and arguably the best team in NFL. Leaving your best man corner on an island with Coker and TMac isn't a mistake. The outcome didn't work out for them in those plays but on paper it should have. If anything, he shouldn't have been beaten deep for TDs by either of them. He's a first round CB that ran a 4.35 at the combine at 6 feet tall. He's not just a guy. He's their Jaycee Horn.