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    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    3 minutes ago, frankw said:

    Bryce Young has had the best coaching top end talent and been afforded every benefit of the doubt his entire life before he got to the NFL. He's never had to face adversity like this.

    CJ Stroud was basically labeled an ignoramus leading up to the draft.

    You can fill the entire WR room with burners and it still won't matter if Bryce Young can't stop bailing from the pocket and killing plays and even if he does get the ball out they'll still have to slow up or contort themselves to haul in many of his passes.

    You guys crack me up.

    Is that what it is? He's had it too easy for you? Lol!

    I never said BY is playing well. At least not consistently enough to be a franchise QB. That still doesn't take away what he did in college. 

    He can play. He just isn't, so it doesn't matter if he can or not.

    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

    Bryce had a lot of help in college. Bama has the top recruiting classes with mostly 1sts, a couple 2nd and a 5th over the past dozen years. 10 guys from his class were drafted. Georgia had 10 also.

    He played lesser caliber competition. Yeah he played in the SEC, but the SEC still has only so many 4 and 5 star recruits and draft worthy players. Alabama had the best, other teams didn't. That's just the nature of college ball. Now every team has what would be elite level talent in college. That huge advantage has disappeared and in many cases, he's on the lesser talent side. 

    Bryce benefited from where he played. Nothing wrong with it. But its why you've got to ignore a lot of the game play and look at the physical attributes, footwork, progressions, motions, everything. We, and by we I mean Fitts and company and Tepper, ignored a lot of the simple red flags because they got hung up on the super processor hype. Damn that S2 test. 

    He definitely had talent around him. But they weren't the only reason he won the Heisman. I mean he is the only QB to ever win it at Bama - with the same number of 5 star players and coaches. I remember watching games and thinking this lil mofo is a baller. Still didn't want him. Because the team wasn't ready for a 1st round rookie QB. Bottom line - Bama Bryce was a friggin baller. Carolina Bryce is NOT.

    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    3 minutes ago, frankw said:

    It's wild that guy is even debating this fact. Bryce Young also played under the winningest coach in modern football history who also personally went out of his way to vouch for Bryce. Remove Alabama from the equation altogether and replace it with a smaller school and Bryce Young wouldn't have even been drafted in the first two rounds.

    Frank what are you even talking about? He was the #1 QB in his high school class and the #2 overall recruit. Why would he be at a smaller school? Dude threw for dang near 5000 yards his sophomore season at Alabama with Jamison Williams and John Metchie. Good players but more speed than skilled. Maybe that's this dude's problem. Panthers keep bringing in big body WRs, but maybe he needs wiry fast guys instead. 

    CJ Stroud threw for over 4000 that season too. Care to look at his receivers?

    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    1 hour ago, Panthering said:

    His confidence pushing the ball down the field got shattered early. His first game against the Falcons I still remember the Jessie Bates picks and then the first possession first game against the Saints last year in Canales first year he tried to fit it in a tight window in the middle of the field and got picked. He just doesn't have the arm strength for this league. 

    He has more than enough arm for the NFL. He doesn't throw hard when he should. Some times you just have to drive the ball in a window and he doesn't always do that, giving the impression that his arm is weak. It really isn't as bad as that. Not great. But not THAT bad. 

    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

    I try to look at him through rose-colored glasses when I can because I think they are going to "die on this hill (Bryce).  At least bring in some comp.  The mentor/best buddies backup situation is not healthy competition, and I will be pissed if we give Bryce a $50m per contract.  I am in the minority when I see the potential for our future QB in this draft.  Players like Mateer, for example, from Oklahoma.  A substandard 2025 has dropped his stock to where he could fall to day 3, but his skill set, demeanor, and stats from Washington State tell me there is something there.  I think he could be there in round 3 if he comes out.  I would feel better about Bryce if I knew we were developing plan B.

    Yeah. My thing with Bryce is that he can. He just doesn't. I know some don't think he can throw a deep ball, or fit passes into tight windows, or even throw in the middle. He can. He has. It's just that some games he just doesn't. For whatever reason. That's the most confusing part. The inconsistency is mind numbing for me. I'd love to see Canales just force him to let it loose. Teach him to read deep to shallow. Check downs for him should only be if he's moved from his spot. Period.

    He wasn't like this at Alabama. I think we broke him. 

    Lowest Yards Per Completion...All Time.

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    Yeah, this was 100% on Bryce. For some reason he came out being checkdown king Sunday. Didn't really even look at deeper routes. Just checked it down as quickly as possible. He CAN NOT be a franchise QB playing this inconsistently. The confusion for me is that some games he looks at deeper routes and then some games he just ignores everything over 15 yards. I don't understand this dude anymore. Honestly thinking he's broken at this point. He WAS NOT like this at Alabama. They'll pick up his 5th year option, but there's no way he's extended. No way. 

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    Bryce missed a number of opportunities yesterday. There were guys open but he had either already moved on from them or never even got to them in the progression. He doesn't have a guy right now that he trusts. It was TMac earlier in the season, but he and TMac are not on the same page all the time, and Coker is actually the best WR on the team right now. I know that hurts some feelings, but it's true. The oline got their lunch money taken all day. It was really bad. In both the run game and the pass game. You could see when the QB lost all confidence in them and that mental clock started to shorten. But as a QB you have to push through that and stand in the pocket, go through your progressions, and deliver an accurate ball on time. 

    But yeah, my biggest take away is that this offense lacks speed and a true playmaker. A couple of solid guys but no true playmaker. As much as BY checked down to RBs, they couldn't make a guy miss in one one opportunities. And they weren't even LBs. They were DBs. You have to make that guy miss. 

    If they're serious about winning right now and not about player development, then Jimmy Horn needs to take XLs snaps. They only put him in to influence the deep safety with fly routes - XL can do that. Jimmy can run a lot more of the route tree than XL right now. Also Etienne needs to play more snaps. If BY is gonna be a checkdown king, then they need someone that can actually do something with the ball in space. Interior oline is weak. They aren't very consistent getting to the second level. Outside runs are this team's bread and butter. Gotta embrace that. 

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