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Linebacker, d-line, and running backs. The Panthers have always been strong at those positions. Not so much now. Secondary survived because they could pressure the QB only sending 4. Now, they have to bring everything but the kitchen sink just to make the QB move in the pocket. Good times.

I think the team lacked a 50/50 guy on the outside more than anything. It's pretty hard to get wide open deep in the NFL - unless you have that Tedd Ginn/Tyreek Hill speed. The jump ball guys are more likely now adays. Hopefully Legette and/or Coker can serve in that role. There was no one all season last year that could go up and snatch it from a defender.

He was a rookie. I think those "plays" will become more consistent. He really didn't seem as risk adverse at Alabama. I think he lost all confidence last year. Confidence in himself, his line, his coaches and his receivers. Hopefully he can regain some sense of swag this season.

Yeah, Bryce has a lot of work to do - no doubt. Biggest being simply taking more shots downfield IMHO. But the OC needs to develop a playbook and call plays that work for him and the rest of the team. I do believe the playbook didn't match the players. None of them really, except maybe Chuba. It was bad. Design more plays that get him outside of the pocket. Not just, well drop back and if you don't like it, then scramble and outrun the best athletes on the field, so that you can have a chance to throw the ball to underdeveloped receivers (and 1 aging vet).

Honestly, don't know if I agree with this 2.7s thing. Bryce is better outside of the pocket than in it. 2.7s indicates they want him to be a pocket passer. At 5'10", I'm not sure how realistic that is. I know they want him to be a Drew Brees, but he really does play more like Mahomes - to a much lesser degree of course.

Young is tiny in comparison to Cam. But Cam isn't an average QB. Everybody that knows or has met him in passing comments on how much bigger he was in person than they expected. That mofo is a Mack truck personified!

He has better edge help on the other side now, so he'll probably average 12 sacks or so and people will get all excited. Not realizing they were all from 7 or 8 games and he was targetted against the run the whole time. Those sacks will be fluff numbers in NY and everyone will say how bad of a trade it was.

I don't get why a lot can't see this. I think the defense is better without him and his one splash play every 2-3 games. Consistent pressure on the QB is vastly more impactful than the occassional super sack. Being able to set the edge is crucial to stopping the run. Off tackle runs are your back breaker, big runs.

Sorry. No I don't see it. You're suggesting the Panthers do something that no team does, for good reasons. Teams don't draft a QB #1 if they already have a guy, or if they plan to go out and get a guy during free agency. Preseason competition is not real for #1 draft picks. They're starting day one. If you have 2 QBs, you don't really have any. That's why Cam couldn't get on a team as a backup.

I seriously doubt it. But it was never a real competition. It never is with a #1 pick QB.

No man. No rookie QB beats out the best FA QB. You could say he has a higher ceiling, but as a rookie he ain't no where near that. A quality 5 or 6 year vet will usually win more games in the same situation.

Y'all trippin real hard right now. What team with any sense will draft a QB #1 overall and then bring in a vet that could legit take his job in the first year or two? It's one or the other. Never both. This offense was so devoid of talent that I can't say any player is good enough or not. TMJ is 6'3" and ran a 4.4. Mingo is 220 and ran a 4.46. They both looked slow last season. Last year was a fiasco. Every player on the offense gets a do-over. Every single one. Except for those guards. They sucked so bad. Guys off the street, half way into the season looked considerably better.

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I don't know. Depends. Especially if they have success. The Orioles and the Nationals are only an hour apart, but the Nationals aren't hurting for fans. Winning a championship doesn't hurt though.

My first portcall on my first deployment in the Navy was Barcelona, Spain in 1999. I was absolutely shocked at how many of my shipmates that were going to Pizza Hut and McDonalds. Pizza Hut in Barcelona? Why is that even a thing? Well, I discovered the wonders of paella and sangria. Still my favorite food/drink combination.

I think Northern VA is Commanders territory. Not sure I agree the rest of the state holds any loyalty to the team.

The opportunity was there to draft 4 or 5 guys that either started or made significant contributions this season. But I guess they wanted "dawgs" instead.

The Huddle... No QB has ever taken a bad team to the Super Bowl. It doesn't work that way. Very few can even go .500 with a bad supporting cast like tge 2023 Panthers. QB is the most dependent position on the field. Prime Cam and maybe Lamar Jackson (the running one, not the one in the AFC championship last year) are the only recent QBs that could have gone above .500 with last year's roster. And if all you needed was a good QB then Drew Brees would have won 6 or 7 Lombardis. He was that guy.

The Panthers aren't building a Bryce Young roster. Alabama didn't recruit personnel to fit a Bryce Young scheme. Canales' approach is to build an NFL roster (which they didn't have last season) and then cater his scheme and playcalling to what the players do best. The team is not pigeon holing itself into an offense that doesn't fit any other QB. Their goal this off-season was to provide NFL average or better talent to the offense - period. Very little to do with matching personnel for Bryce Young's skillset or lack thereof.

Thought he was from Arkansas. Must have been the uniform colors. He had a pretty good Senior Bowl.

If the oline and dline are strengths, then this team will surprise some folk. If they're both weak, like last year, they're in trouble. Love the FAs brought in to ramp up both lines. Hate the draft didn't really address either. Just my opinion, but olinemen with upside is better than linebackers with upside. We've seen that the wheels fall off when that unit is bad. That new engine and transmission don't mean jack if you're always sitting on 4 flat tires. But, tires aren't nearly as sexy.

I think they snatched up an UDFA from Arkansas or something. Not much to be excited about, but worst case he should be able to get the ball to the QB without false starting or falling on his face.

Yeah, win/losses in preseason is never an indicator of regular season success. Never has been. It does give you an idea of which of the new guys are competitors though. Forget the playcall, just beat the man in front of you. Honestly, preseason is mostly for the fans. But it does give a new HC a taste of game time management. So, Canales should get more benefit from those games than players do. Joint practices are always the better measuring stick. Controlled environment and scenarios to gauge players against guys they don't know. We thought it wasn't so bad because the Jets were a preseason playoff/Super Bowl pick with a top defense. Unfortunately, I think they showed every other team that a delayed blitz or stunt was all that was needed to murder the QB.

Really was. I think this is when Frank knew the wheels were falling off. Didn't they cancel the last day or something? The oline was gonna get Bryce killed.

I feel the same. I don't hate the guys they picked up, but the draft really fell perfectly to the Panthers. Could have taken Ladd and Kool Aid in the 2nd, Payton in the 3rd, Ja'Tavion in the 4th, SVP and Trotter in the 5th, and Malik Washington in the 6th That would have been a very exciting draft in my opinion.