Navy_football

1 hour ago, strato said:

Allowing that to happen once, bad enough. But okay. Learn from it. Allowing it on the heels of the first one? It was was a clear dereliction by LA.

We sort of got a free one the second time. 

Nah, 2 great routes/adjustments with 2 great passes. Forbes is their best corner and has been playing very well this season, for a team widely considered to be a super bowl contender and arguably the best team in NFL. Leaving your best man corner on an island with Coker and TMac isn't a mistake. The outcome didn't work out for them in those plays but on paper it should have. If anything, he shouldn't have been beaten deep for TDs by either of them. He's a first round CB that ran a 4.35 at the combine at 6 feet tall. He's not just a guy. He's their Jaycee Horn. 

1 hour ago, fanpanther said:

wondering if i am the only one who feels this way but this 7 and 6 record panther team has me less excited than any other time i can remember the panthers having a halfway decent record.  normally i have hope and expect them to win and instead this year its just wierd.  maybe i just need to somehow convincr myself byoung is actually good 

Nah man. Bryce is what he's shown to be. Inconsistent. Once that's conquered, then he'll graduate to good.

4 hours ago, MechaZain said:

The coddling seems so unnecessary when Bryce has kept himself even-keeled through everything. I doubt some competition would make him crash out, it's not like we've been going easy on him as a fanbase.

Or as a coaching staff. Canales literally benched him 2 games into his tenure. I think this coddling narrative is a little overblown. And how good is a FA that's sitting at home not on a team, or being waived in the offseason? Probably not as good as we're thinking. 

32 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The more experience you get in college the better your chances at the next level--(See, Nix, Bo; Richardson, Anthony).

Well...

I think it improves your chances of being better early on. But where you go has always been the biggest factor. Coaching and good team mates make a huge difference. And that's with any position. 

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I wouldnt put a target on a round, I would see how the draft evolves and see who potentially drops and how you have them ranked.   For example if they have a guy like Nuss graded as late first and he falls to mid to late 2nd they may few that as a value pick.  or 2nd to 3rd or whatever

Right. If a no brainer falls in their laps, then you have to pull the trigger. I'm just thinking this FO has been picking starters in the first 4 rounds - unless they're injured of course. A starting FS/ILB/TE is more important than a backup QB right now. Build the team and then get the QB.

I mean this dude was a rookie. He was ruined his first game. 

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The sacks were only half the story.

His early coaching was awful. I mean like Hue Jackson with the Browns level awful.

That oline was a friggin joke and his receivers were bad his rookie season. Think thay drafted Andre Johnson and some more offensive players his second year and things got a little better. Then Andre Johnson started getting injured, and it went back to weekly beat downs. 

5 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I think the same thing, but then I see that Dak Prescott makes $60m.  That is crazy.  A reasonable deal could have allowed Jones to keep Parsons, imo.  

 

I also think this is a good year to draft a QB later in the draft to see if he can develop while the Bryce experiment drags on..

Yeah but Dak is a top 10ish QB. Bryce has been a bottom 5 QB. They are not remotely the same. You have to go in there with some kind of justification for what you're demanding. He has the team record for passing, and he's been attributed to a lot of GWDs. But Dan can easily come back with every other stat. He ain't getting that kind of money from any team right now. 

And agree a 5th round QB makes sense for development. 

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Possibly. He sustained 62 sacks in his first season but has never seen half that since. 

If it took just one season of battering to break him, well.......

Just looked it up. It was 76 his first season! He was sacked over 200 times in his first 60 games with Houston! That's pretty brutal man. And in his case, quality is even worse than quantity. He had a few hits where he was absolutely demolished. I remember feeling sorry for that dude. He took a beating almost every game. 

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's possible, though probably and only very preliminary terms. 

If they do choose to extend him, Dan Graziano's short term / mid-range suggestion would be my preference.

Bryce Young absolutely could not demand top QB money. There is no friggin way he'd go into Dan's office asking to be paid like Mahomes. I'm not even worried about that. Thinking 30-35 if they extended him now. But I would not do that now. He'll play next year after thay pick up his 5th year option. He's not delusional. 

18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Also, for context, Carr was sacked an average of 3.3 sacks/GM during his time in Houston.

Carr was actually a great prospect. He had it all. Houston broke him. So bad that he NEVER recovered. 

Honestly always felt that's what was going on with our #1 pick QB. Hopefully he's finally getting his confidence back now. Hopefully. 

15 hours ago, CRA said:

I refuse to watch the OG 2 Gloved QB David Carr ever again.  

But for the OP, Carr is the 3rd #1 overall draft pick QB that has played for us.   Well, the first.  We just didn’t draft that one. 

but this post was informative. Now I understand why you have more tolerance than I with our current QB

We've had at least 4.

Carr

Cam

Baker

Bryce

Has it really come to that? Bryce lovers vs Bryce haters? I don't love him or hate him so what am I? Is there an Independent party?

I don't know man. He definitely have a great block for Corum to get into the endzone Sunday. But agree, he's been much better lately as the entire defense has.

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

True.  That season, you could tell Tommy Jone got him.  And Lady Luck sort interfered earlier in that season because the AZ game could have happened before it did and people excused it because the big turnover game didn’t actually happen even though it could have.  

AZ was Tommy Jone grabbing and shaking us so that no one could explain it away and we still didn’t listen.  
 

 

So similar to Cam, where he just couldn't make throws that came with ease in the past. Body gave out on him. Mind was willing, but...

On 12/2/2025 at 5:15 PM, Jon Snow said:

His only decent games he had was when he played left guard last season. He's been straight up ass everywhere they put him this season. 

He played left guard next to Ickey in college. He's much more comfortable there and appears a competent NFL player on that side.

1 hour ago, CRA said:

I mean, after Jake Delhomme imploded versus AZ…..we gave him a big contract extension 

 

That fact that he had a bad game wasn't the issue. Coming off Tommy John and imploding is why he shouldn't have been extended.

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Seconded...

Thirded...

Just now, frankw said:

The league and sports media at large has been salivating for Bryce Young to "arrive" since before he was even drafted. It's the Alabama effect.

Hahaha. I think they do want him to be successful but it's more like the Steph Curry effect. They want normal humans to think they can actually be NFL players. 

2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

That's how it is for every QB short of Mahomes. Cam was amazing but had plenty of critics. I think panthers fans are split on Young like dolphins fans are with Tua.  

You're right. I remember 2 years ago a bunch of Cowboys fans were complaining about Dak. Same with Ravens fans and Lamar. Like they legit wanted to replace them. I just sat there like... huh?!

2 hours ago, CRA said:

clearly, not.  Because Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes also have a long career history and that big picture influences the small picture greatly. 

What does Bryce's big picture tell you about being hidden in games.   What that be normal strategy Dave implements in large parts of games? Have we seen his current coach implement that strategy? The answer is yes.  We are factually talking about the worst starting QB in the NFL since 2023 here.  You seem to forget and now you want to utter about HOFers lol

folks trying way to hard here. 

Actually appears that you're trying way too hard to discredit any thing positive Bryce Young does. Just said the same stats would be fine for the award if it was by another player, but because it's Bryce it isn't good enough. He was hidden all game sans a few plays. Come on. You have to see what you're doing.

Nobody here is saying Bryce is the guy yet. He's put up some absolute stinkers. But he's improving and if he has a good game, then he has a good game. If he has a bad game, then he has a bad game. Everything is either a bad game or comes with a caveat to you. What did you think about his 450 yards game against ATL? Gonna go out on a limb here and guess you'll say he only plays well against ATL and most of his yards were from YAC. Unreal...

10 hours ago, CRA said:

Yeah, I mean if you watched the game he was.   Dude had 2 throws over 10 yards downfield and he was completely hidden.  There were 2 schizophrenic 4th down playcalls.   If you didn’t catch those 2 passes and watched her rest of the game. 

the fine line between dumb and stupid playcalls….is often just the result.  Bryce misses just one of the 4th down calls and the narrative for Bryce and Canales is an entire 180.  

If Josh Allen or Patrick Mahomes had the same stats with the same throws on 4th down, would you have the same opinion?

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Both of those teams are going to try to eliminate 1 of us. If they could eliminate both of us they would. 

That was Carolina vs Atlanta in the last game of the season last year. Went all out to spoil the Falcons 

Didn't they split with the Saints and Falcons last year? It can happen.

So the NFL is recognizing Bryce's game, but his "fans" are saying he isn't worthy. Lawd make this make sense. Now I see what Smitty meant. Geez!