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Thanks for posting this. I don’t know how many of you guys also visit the Reddit panther sub, but damn Mingo catches so much poo in there, and Bryce gets every excuse. 
 

Seems like inconsistent logic to me that Bryce gets a pass for the team dysfunction, but Mingo is just a bust.

I saw inconsistent tape from Mingo, but he had plenty of examples of good route running…showing me he can do it.

He was a rookie, and naturally was inconsistent with it. I don’t think we are dealing with Dwayne Jarrett here. I look forward to seeing him develop more consistency…and I hope Bryce can get him the ball if he does. 

1 hour ago, strato said:

Slept on it. It is receiving oriented but... A Sproles or even better, a CMC type. Kamara was a 3rd rounder I think and he was killing people early in his career, and a lot of pass catching and turning upfield. 

I look at where things are offensively right now - with the under 2.7 sec play design and goodn (smart) OL working together maybe you don’t have to worry quite as much about a rookie RB doing his blitz pickups.

The fact is this team is going to have to have skill studs everywhere and that would be a great place to have one. If someone exceptional at that is there I’d probably be in. 

Was about to comment similar. I haven’t had time to dive into prospects as much this year, but a dynamic back should be on the table if available too. 
 

Just add weapons. A quick hitter YAC back would be nice. Maybe Canales has a better plan for Sanders though. 

He’s a bust but Evero has taken guys I’ve never heard of and found a place for them to thrive. 
 

Who knows? Between DJ Johnson, Barno, and Chaisson (maybe draft pick)…he may be able to get production. 
 

Barno is my guy to watch. Even without sacks, he has value with his speed of pursuit down the line. 

On 3/13/2024 at 11:41 PM, PanthersGTI said:

Woods is a dawg adding Fuller means our starters are set.

No one ever mentions Woods and it’s criminal. Hits hard. Great instincts. Can cover. 

Safety is sometimes treated like the O-line…they are most noticed when they screw up. 

Not convinced he would have been as unwatchable as Bryce this season. 
 

I have liked Richards development and I credit him for making himself an NBA player. 
 

But with how poo our centers have been, we absolutely should have kept both Mark and Duren, with Richards as the best 3rd center in basketball. 

1 hour ago, Ricky Prickles said:

If you had to guess, what would you honestly give his chances of succeeding with the new coach and system given you already know his challenges we cant overcome like size? I want to be optimistic and he seems like a great guy so I would LOVE to see him succeed but its so hard for me to see it happening with what I saw of him this season combined with his physical limitations.

Depends on the definition of succeeding.

Right now, I think his “succeeding” will be a Teddy, or a little past that in a Garoppalo level of managing the game. A mid tier guy who, with lots of help, won’t keep you from the postseason, but would be the reason you lose in the postseason.

I don’t view that as succeeding personally.

But his ceiling seems to be a guy who starts, but is always rumored to be traded or replaced. 
 

I hope my assessment is wrong. 

27 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Agreed. The spot where we took him can’t be changed. Hopefully he can develop into our QB. If not we will just have to try to draft one again.

As negative (or doubtful) as I feel toward him, I also want him to succeed too. He seems like a good kid, and I (of course) want our Panthers to be competitive every Sunday. 

Your attitude is the sensible one. Can’t change the past. Hope for the best present. Make a change in the future if necessary. 

22 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Agreed. The hope is that Young can become a Burrow-Lite with the right cast around him. Burrow started off with Higgins, Boyd, and Mixon. Of course Chase made him next level. 

The issue is you don’t want the number one pick to be “anyone”-lite.

Could be the case that TMJ was just unlucky to be drafted by this offensive train wreck of a franchise. Best offense was with Teddy. That says a lot. 
 

A ton of reps were wasted with “Chosen” too. 
 

Maybe he’s also a guy who relies on his physical ability, and that doesn’t work often at this level. I’m just assuming though. We don’t know how hard he works or not. 
 

I’m never a fan of cutting high ceiling players like him during their rookie deal, unless they are a locker room cancer of some kind. 
 

I’d just let his contract run out, and see what Canales thinks of him and if he can get anything out of him. 
 

Either way…outside of Moose and Colberts rookie year…2nd round WR’s have been ridiculously pathetic for us. 
 

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Lol

 

@poundaway

Someone said Brady didn’t have a strong arm TOO. But Brady could throw that deep ball high with arc. Perfect deep balls. 

2 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Competent people from successful organizations? What is this madness?

Weren’t we told no one would want to come here because of Tepper? 
 

The truth seems to be that a job in the NFL is a job in the NFL.

It’s a damn shame how often players become the villain when their cheap rookie deal runs out and they want to cash in on their hard work. 
 

The salary cap is good for parody, but it also causes unreasonable anger toward players who need to make as much as they can before their bodies are broken. 
 

Burns is not the cream of the crop, but he is an excellent player.

Words like “average” or “liability” get thrown around because of a trade that didn’t happen (not Burns fault) and because his contract is up and lord forbid if he wants to make as much as he can. 

1 minute ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

they have one of the best LTs of all time, an elite WR, elite TE, best RB in the NFL (courtesy of shitterer). and tons of talent on defense. purdy is easily the weak link here

Purdy made plays all on his own all game. Numerous times he extended plays, made back breaking runs, dropped dimes.

Weak link or not, they lose today if he doesn’t pull poo out of his ass throughout the game. 

Bryce will get another season with no competition because of sunk cost. Nothing else. 
 

If Corral (a 3rd rounder) played all season and did what Young did, no one would be required to “fix” him and run it back. 
 

If Canales/Morgan don’t have a plan B, then the season has a high potential to be a complete waste of time. 

He better have a plan B. 

My gut likes the hire because our GM and new HC seem to be close and on the same page. 

I am indifferent because we were BURNED beyond belief last off-season with the “more years of coaching experience than America has been a country” sales campaign. 

4 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Anyone thinking that Morgan was some kind of maverick in the front office is delusional. He and fat Fitt were BFFs and I have no doubt they made all the decisions together, along with Dave and Nicole. 

Maybe. I disagree with my friends all the time. 

3 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

YOu can't pull the "We don't know" card and act like he didn't do the wrongs. You just can't. You either did help with the presvious disaster or you didn't. Only way you can even say he didn't is if he wasn't here. This is a stupid way of doing things. It's like Einsteins quote about insanity.

 

Your logic could work the same with Beane and Morgan in Buffalo. "How do you know he did anything." You see? It's idiotic to think that way and absolve morgan of any wrong or right.

There’s nothing wrong with admitting ignorance. Especially since none of us know. It’s true. 

Dan Morgan is more than “assistant to Fitt”.

If he’s GM, I’m fine with it. 

And yes, it’s because I loved him as a player. He was Luke with Horn’s injury luck. He knows a thing or two about the game, and maybe he has his own ideas about roster construction. 
 

None of this means he will be good, but I won’t pretend I know poo about any of these other random suits. And he, unlike Reich, truly has a Panthers legacy.

5 minutes ago, CanadianCat said:

My hope is in a Jacksonville-esk turnaround when we get a proper coach and staff in the building. Whoever we hire will come in with a plan for Young. 

Having a plan for Young is okay, but a forced marriage to him isn’t imo.

Otherwise Tep may alienate candidates who don’t want to be attached to what the last regime did. 
 

Applies to GM and HC.

Yeah the 2022 3-13-1 Texans were just stacked. Just needed to plug in that QB. Everyone was saying that about the studded Texans roster…

They had a very nice draft, hired an actual coach, and most importantly, picked the far and away best QB in the draft. 
 

Losing the number 1 pick in week 18 was the best thing that could have happened to that franchise. 

39 minutes ago, frankw said:

Heisman lol

Now do Johnny Manziel.

It’s worse on Reddit. Everyone hanging their hat on “heisman.”

That poo gets you drafted…don’t mean a damn thing once the NFL games started. 

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

You are bipolar…see a doctor.  Because one thing is great does not mean another cannot be great.  Time is a linear thing not a point.  Seek help

Let’s let Bryce become middle of the road before discussing “great”.

It sounds cliche and vague, but we really are missing consistency and culture. 

The right hire fixes this. 
 

Wilks brought the culture back, but I understand the argument that his ceiling may not have been good enough. That being said, we all saw how much he helped the team by being a consistent leader who held people accountable. 
 

Which candidate can do this for us?