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Just now, CRA said:

we also played a pretty soft schedule last season.  So I suspect life will be much harder on a defense that likely took a step back coming into this season. 

We are supposed to learn from the past. Not fear it. Nothing that happened last year matters. This is a new year. New challenges. Let's worry about what's in front of us. Not what is behind us.

8 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Sorry, but as long as Ruhle is the HC this team is not going to be contending for anything but a top 10 pick 

Sorry you feel that way. By the way. How will you feel if we are outside a top 10 pick? What if, heaven forbid, this team actually plays well? 

After all, Hope springs eternal.

1 minute ago, onmyown said:

Dline is an issue. Pass rushers and run stopping. On paper I don’t see it being even close to playoff caliber. Also not feeling the LBs.

Personally, I don’t think Moore is a #1 and Robby sucks ass. Moore will have to stop giving up on routes and blocking and Anderson will have to catch passes, along with cmc stay healthy, if this team is going to outscore opponents with a true 1.

But other than those - pretty solid all around.

Biggest hinderance imo is that Dline…not liking it.

I  don't think you are alone in worrying about that front 7. However, we were 9 in yards per rush last year. If we can stay near that, the run D isn't bad. The only fear I have is rushing the passer. We have some talent there, they just need to step up.

Just now, CRA said:

we are not a plug in Matt Stafford and ready to contend type team in 2022.   We aren't a QB away in 2022. 

That's fine that you think that. Just know you are not in the majority according to the poll.

And for the record. Put Stafford on this team, and we absolutely can compete. 

6 MAYBE votes

6 YES votes

2 NO votes

Better than I expected. And there was great rejoicing.

1 minute ago, CRA said:

front 7 on defense is pretty suspect.  And Reddick was a pretty big loss comparing last year to this year. 

we also only have 1 reliable WR/TE in the pass game and that is DJ.  So we have to add to that. 

and to some extent, many just have defaulted us into now having a strong OL in 2022 just because we have added new bodies.   We have seen that before even in recent times.   Where you can't just check the box at as it existing and solved because we have new guys in town.   

and obviously, to be competive does require good in game management, gameplanning and roster decisions.  And those presently are still things people hope will occur but to date haven't under Rhule. 

So...because you failed to tell us how you voted, we are left to guess. And by this post? I'mma say it's a solid no for you?

Just now, MickMixon'sMetaphors said:

More positive leaning votes than negative.  Wow, go huddle!

I was hopeful it would go this way to be honest. The excitement level around here has had a marked increase of late.

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No because we have an idiot for a HC. Now, replace him with a competent HC and I think it's a maybe. The question is how much our of our 2020-2022 draft talent pans out. 2020 and 2021 aren't looking stellar early. If those classes only end up with 1-2 real hits, this is a definite no. If we get a few more guys to pan out, this leans toward yes.

That is what is the key, how much of our recent(Rhule era) draft talent actually pans out.

2 minutes ago, Icege said:

In before, "this coaching staff can't win with any amount of talent"

EDIT: Damn, just missed it.

So do you not believe that Coaches can improve? Because our coach has added some highly resected coaches to his staff. This just might be a positive. Rhule has less day to day crap to deal with. Leaving him plenty of time to work his magic.

Saying a Coach is bad is not the end all. There is always hope for improvement. 

Me? I would rather hope for improvement. It is better for the digestion.

Well, so far, the money is on us having a decent roster. C'mon QB.

8 minutes ago, thunderraiden said:

We are still extremely susceptible to the run which means we are still extremely susceptible to play action which is what wins games in the NFL.  Until the run gets shored up and we get a possession WR we still arent exactly a QB away.

@Davidson Deac IIshowed a stat recently that said we were 9th in yards per run. If we can stay right around there? We should be good to go.

7 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I think offensively if CMC stays healthy we are going to score some points.   I would prefer to see Corral under center but as long as Darnold has CMC he'll play better. 

I would like to see us sign a DE.  I am not sure whether Gross-Matos is going to final show his worth.  This is year 3 and he's got to step up.  If we can get some pressure I think we have the secondary to create some coverage sacks but we need that pressure.

If the defense shows up, which I believe it will.  We might surprise some folks. 

My only fear is that Rhule won't play Corall even after he learns the playbook, and can run some practices. Corall has to earn that start asap.

Yeah, that front 7 is a tad shaky right now. There is talent there, so there is a chance we can improve. Cuz if that front 7 plays well, that D could be really good.

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

 

1.  Cool, you don't want to speculate about our offense and what we will do w/ McAdoo or Corral.  Then don't.  Pretty easy.  

then that makes the rest pointless to respond to you about. 

McAdoo likes to throw the ball. Matt has said he wants to run the ball more. Corall is good at Play Action. So a blend of all that. 

If I'm not playing the game to your satisfaction. Then yeah, I concur, we done

10 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Lawdy, I hope we get to that point.   And not just with the second and third Matt in that statement, but with Jeremy, Brady, and several others. 

I felt like we spent a lot of last year trying to prove 1x4's could be used for floor joists.  Both are very useful, but they are not interchangeable.

IMO, if the line looks as good as it should. Corall should play as soon as he can run a practice.

IMO, this is the best roster we have had is a long while. Quality QB play would put us in the competitive bracket. I like Corall, and am hopeful he can rise to the occasion. Because if he can, we can be something.

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

1.  If you draft a QB like Corral in 2022 and install him into some old John Fox era pro style offense.  Then you shouldn't of drafted him.   Again, look at this college tape.  Look at other guys that have come out of similar offenses and what teams have done w/ them.  We do have a very good idea of what a Corral offense SHOULD look like. 

2.  Again, Matt Corral played at Ole Miss.  He didn't play under center.  Go watch some of his games.  You think the Panthers would play him and not heavily utlizie the shotgun?  Then the McAdoo aspect on top of that?  His history of being shotgun heavy? So yeah, assumption would be McAdoo WOULD design an offense that most likely puts Corral in the shotgun.  

3.  Lot of well rounded vets get cut every year in camp.   You don't have to trade to add this caliber of depth. 

4. Royce isn't on our roster.  And Hubbard would have to make extreme progression to put him back there with a rookie QB in shotgun.  Hubbard's issues aren't just his hands but pass protection. 

5.  LOL.  Not planning for injuries is a fools errand.  Especially for a player that hasn't really seen the field for years now.   

1. Everybody knows we didn't draft Matt to run a Fox Offense. And we may think we know what O they will run, and what type of RB they want. But we don't.

2. You just repeated #1.

3, Hoping a RB that fits what we want gets cut? Not sound strategy to me. But hey, if we need to we can.

4. You know I meant Foreman. Don't be obtuse. And Hubbard can improve. You know, like a lot of players do 

5. You build your roster the best you can. You do not plan on injuries. You don't have the roster space to stockpile players in case of injury.

12 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Well, now let's no overdo it!  Remember, it was me that posted that, so consider the source

I have hopes for Corral.  Right now, I don't want him to start right away.  That has more to do with nightmares of watching QBs get pounded by our OL than any commentary on him.  My concern about giving him PTSD before his third start is complete go away quickly if our improved OL really performs like an improved OL.  I think it will be improved, but I have thought that before and been sorely disappointed. I want to see it.

Corral could be anywhere between out of the league in five years to good starter, but I have more hopes for him than I have had for any of our QBs in a long time.  We'd probably have to go back to Cam's first game or two.  I'm not saying Corral can be Cam, but we have not had a QB on the roster since....or several years before that was worth a lot of hope. 

IMO, if Matt can master the Playbook, he should be the starter. Whenever that happens. Whether sooner, or later. Or not at all. 

If Matt allows Matt to be Matt. This could be the start of a beautiful relationship.

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

and maybe I could of articulated it better but the thread is also about your depth matching what you want to do (which that part is speculated but that is based on McAdoo's history as an OC and Corral's entire college career).    You could use a TE as an example.  A solid TE group would be dependent on what type offense you want to run and what you would ideally would be asking of that group.   So solid depth could mean run blockers or a cast of pass catchers.  It's not univerally good depth.  Same group might be sufficient for one O or too weak for another. 

The depth at this point, doesn't appear on face value to really match up as good as it could.  Both McAdoo and Corral ran heavy shotgun offenses.  You think of the asks of those offenses, you don't really think Hubbard and Foreman type RBs.  They IMO are more the hand it off and play D type RBs. 

Just seems like instead of waiting until CMC gets hurt to add an Abdullah type early instead of in season.  And if we did run a shotgun scheme it would allow CMC to rotate out and play WR a lot (which was been the talk and what most here want to see).   

1. We have no idea yet what that "Matt Corall centric Offense" is going to look like. 

2. The OC designs his Offense for everyone. Not just the QB.

3. How do you plan on adding this RB, whose skillset is still a question mark? Please no trades. And the FA market is rather sad.

4. Royce can catch, and Hubbard has had a whole offseason to work on his craft.

5. Counting on injuries is a fools errand.

If Corall works out, we have a roster that could make some noise. If he doesn't work out? The next QB has a pretty good team to work with.

11 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

I'm far beyond expecting any sort of civil discussion with someone whose penchant for senseless optimism and condescending replies knows no bounds. Really just wanted to make it abundantly clear that many of us see a pattern in how you converse.

Considering your posting history. You won't mind if I don't take posting advice from you?

4 minutes ago, rayzor said:

So you're back to using every post to complain about every other post complaining again? 

how about talking about the team instead of all the other posters whose contributions you don't appreciate or agree with? 

give it a rest. you don't earn any awesome fan points for standing up against the team's criticisms. and before you say it... you don't have to criticize the team. you can support them and that's fine. everyone's opinion of the team is fine. that's all it is, opinions. if it's too much negativity for you and you can't handle it, then just avoid the place. if it's too toxic...avoid the place. 

not just you, but all those others who all they can find to do is complain about other people's posting rather than actually commenting on the team. it's ok to be happy with the team and feel optimistic, it's a valid mindset, but so is not being happy about the team and not feeling optimistic. 

So...After all the complaining, backstabbing, name calling, and @Mr. Scotinsults. I get called into HR?

I will endeavor from this moment on, to raise my level of posting.

3 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

That's literally all you do: complain about posters' complaints. I'm not sure what satisfaction you derive from  being so self-righteous all the time.

I'm not sure taking someone's words out of context is the best way to start a discussion.

15 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Not saying we won't.  The entire sentence plays in: I don't expect to see him in preseason (or the regular season) and say to myself "geez, he looks like Steve Young or John Elway."

Unfortunately, at this point in time. That is the Huddle in a nutshell. "I do have a plan. Attack."

There are a poo ton of short fuses up in here. And I hate that I cannot say mine is any longer. 

Civility, empathy, and caring are all traits that seem to be disappearing. Abe Lincoln once said "I will give no ill will to any man." And I hate that I have lost sight of that. (I did a HS report on him, and have always tried to emulate that approach.)

The negativity is waning, and the excitement level is rising. Hopefully, that will bring about a more civil discourse. 

Sorry for the tangent. I do enjoy your posting style. Live long and prosper. And have a blessed HumpDay.

2 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Thanks for your comments all knowing.. lol 

No, that's @Mr. Scot. I just like to be entertained. And this place is GOLD right now.

1 minute ago, PootieNunu said:

It is a valid concern given the past 2 years the offense was centered around CMC being the #1 option and he missed most of both seasons.

I dont want to see a repeat either, maybe you are ok with rolling the dice on him staying healthy, but I hope our offense has a more varied approach this season. 

We have RB depth. Injuries happen. If you want to worry about a position group hurting after an injury? Let's talk WR, or LB. Hellz Bellz that Dline is glue and tape.

Complaining without a solution is just bit(hing. And right now, there is no way to fix this COMPLAINT.

12 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Agreed.  I think that’s why they made that trade with the Saints, giving them 2 first rounders next year just in case. 

One can never have enough 1st round picks. That part I am envious over.

9 minutes ago, CRA said:

If CMC does down and we play Matt Corral….we don’t have the backfield in place for him to be successful IMO.   And if we play Matt Corral and CMC is healthy it might be beneficial to give CMC a fair amount of slot WR looks.  

Specifically brought it up because it isn’t an obvious spot or conversation.  

You are seeing Ghosts where there aren't any. 

We have more depth there than any position other than maybe Oline, and DBs. 

You have this idea that there is such a thing as a "Matt Corall centric Offense". And you just know our RBs don't fit that scheme. 

Like I said. You are seeing Ghosts.

Maybe we can wait to see what type of Offense we run, before we call for replacement players?