*FreeFua*

3 hours ago, strato said:

A throwaway is usually okay with me, like a punt. Live to fight on the next play. But he kind of took it to another level, throwing it away on 3rd down. At least throw deep enough that if picked at least it’s like a punt. Somebody might catch it, which OB is automatic DOA give up.

I try and picture good things but in my head it looks like last season to me, which is sort of how I pictured things all along. 

That’s something that stood out to me with Bryce in college. No urgency. That was for sure going to carry over into his pro game. ‘live to see another down’ is fine when you’re playing at Alabama where you’re always going to get the ball back but that’s not the case in the NFL 

24 minutes ago, Mage said:

There is no reason to think the team would stick with Bryce if he continues to look terrible this year.  I'm not sure why so many people are concerned about that.  Not necessarily saying you are, it is just a sentiment I see a lot around here.  

The fact of the matter is the leash for QBs has NEVER been shorter in league history.  Trey Lance didn't even get a 3rd season with the 49ers.  Zach Wilson only got 2 seasons (they didn't plan for him to start his 3rd year) and he's on a new team.  And the Panthers have been cycling through QBs like hot cakes under Tepper.  There just isn't any reason to think the Panthers won't be willing to move onto Bryce.

IMO the only way Bryce looks bad and is still on the starter next year is if the Panthers aren't picking top 3 and can't get a first round QB that they like.  And even then, I would expect the team to make a play in free agency.  So I don't think they are backing themselves in a corner.  

I agree with you. I’ve seen people laugh at the thought the Panthers would move on from Bryce after year 2. Whereas unless this greatly improves I don’t see how they don’t.

Like you said, if they’re picking top 3 again they won’t even have a choice but to move on from Bryce 

They’re backing themselves into a corner if this goes south 

They’re talking about getting his feet right and the ball coming out quick. Well if that doesn’t work there’s nothing left to do. Given the fact Young was drafted 1st due to his ability to process on paper this sounds like the perfect combination

There will be no excuses left after this year for Bryce. 

Where are those people who were telling us he “bulked up”

Also from yesterday.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

he already answered that question honestly a few weeks back and it wasn't well received. 

he got away from football, spent a lot of time alone and watched Netflix and you tube.   He eventually added back in working out in the morning.   I mean, the honest answer doesn't make you feel good about a struggling rookie QB with a host of issues. 

 

Oh god I missed that. Glad I did. 
 

Bryce kept it very “general” this offseason when asked what he did the offseason to improve and kept to what he’s been doing for years 

didn’t touch the nutritional part of the question

I expect nothing to change this season 

21 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

A bit on the homer side but I wouldn’t hate it. Those stats mean we will win more games. 

That’s the last thing we need. Stumble our way to a couple of pointless victories 

If Bryce shows legit potential (doubtful) then win all the games you want. 

But if we’re winning games like we did with Sam Darnold then that does us no good at all

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

propping up Canales and calling him an innovator for having a bottom half offense in a horrible horrible division is pretty wild

 

Ive said all along Dave is a fine hire.  A fine hire.  The best tepper could do under the circumstances that he created.  But if you dont see the major red hurricane level beach flags with this hire then you are blind.  I hope it works, I really do but come on.......

Takes 5 mins to hop on YT throw on some Baker highlights and see that a lot of Baker’s big completions aren’t balls Young will throw or quite frankly is capable of throwing

Canales isn’t a Bobby Slowik where he’s scheming guys wide ass open

48 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Didn’t they win a playoff game? 

Also Baker was in the same decision the prior year and sucked so bad he was cut…

Baker was never as bad as this organization made him look. I said that countless times during that year. Baker had enough tape in Cleveland that proved he wasn’t as bad as he was here. 

And again, Mike Evans consistently winning 1 on 1 opens up sooooo much for an offense. 

Plus the division is literally garbage 

7 minutes ago, Captroop said:

Honestly, irrespective of Bryce, this is my hope for Canales.

I hate hearing about him being a "QB whisperer." Because I don't give a rat's ass about him saving Bryce's career. Bryce either proves to be worth what we gave up for him, or it's next man up.

I'm just excited to have a young, innovative offensive mind.

How did this “innovative” narrative start with Canales? Just because he’s young?

He truly wants to run the ball and nothing Tampa did last year was all that creative. Mike Evans ability to win 1 on 1 does wonders for an offense as a whole 

3 hours ago, CRA said:

And I have been a big XL guy/fan.  He know doubt was drafted because he fits a role that is in all the Os Canales has been around. 

my concern is Bryce, and it’s probably not a talent issue on this aspect.  Just a QB DNA thing.  I really think Canales and XL pair best with a gunslinger/risk taker.   You want to limit gunslinger with the run but then need the QB to go downfield aggressively.  

Bryce needs to simply play and be more aggressive downfield.   Which is easier said than done if not wired that way

Sam Howell could’ve been had for free

We’ve already seen Young’s limitations come out. It’s clear he’s scheme dependant. So what’re we even doing here?

We’re talking about creating a run first offense with big time protection in the middle to create a clean pocket? 

You can drop just about any QB not named Sam Darnold into a situation like this and they’d have some degree of success. 

I hope we’re in position to take another QB next year. Re set the 5 year rookie QB contract window and try again

30 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Ewers will be interesting this season. I realize it's Texas and in the NIL era they can reload at will but they still lost a 1st round WR, a 2nd round WR and RB, and a 4th round TE. That's a LOT.

Isaiah Bond was a really good get for Texas

3 hours ago, strato said:

Still, I enjoyed its meager rewards compared to the reality of 2023, I promise you that. Better than Baker’s first two games that year too. And the year before and the year....

I didn’t. Those “meager rewards” had us winning meaningless games at the end of the year.

I rather go 0-17 than 7-10 playing that style of football with Bryce. We’d be right back in the same position. Drafting 8-10 range needing a QB

If Bryce is THAT bad that we have to resort to playing that style then they’re better off letting Bryce drop back and lead us to our next bust at QB

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

not directed at you per se, but he has had elite coaching, elite training and gone to elite camps since the 8th grade.  Why would this off season be any different?  He is who he is at this point and the fact that he joked about binging netflix all off season kindof shows his true colors

Yeah… I really thought he’d take adding muscle seriously. Everyone talked about this kid like he’s extremely mature/professional/smart… I kind of assumed he’d eventually get to a true 205 but he’s clearly content at 185 or whatever the hell he is 

1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

My concern is his horrible accuracy and slow decision making. These can be improved I guess. Arm strength can be schemed around but it’s definitely a handicap. 

arm strength also helps make up for slow decision making. Due to Young’s lack of arm strength he has to be a step ahead at all times. 

Sure sounds like we’re going to be a run first team this year. Probably look a lot like we did with Darnold and Wilks. 

fun times 

If we end up with a top pick then we have no choice but to draft another QB

As for Bryce, my concern is his arm strength. Always has been. Figured he’d put on some muscle but clearly that isn’t going to happen 

Carson Beck here we come

Morgy loves him some Dane Jackson

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

I betting Ewers will be consensus number 1 by the end of the year.

I have a tough time imagining Beck not going 1

6’4” 220 and a cannon of an arm

8 reps on the bench… 

He needs to get into much better shape. He’s probably managed to get by on pure athleticism so far

3 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Ladd is going to be primarily slot. He struggles with press because of his size.

• Modest play strength could create issues in beating press.
• Limited production in 2023 due to back and ankle injuries.
• Alarming number of deep ball-tracking drops in 2022.
• Average acceleration driving through route stems.

He might not be sudden enough to beat press and will need to prove he has enough play strength to finish contested catches against tight man

They all have strengths and weaknesses. We need X or outside WRs though. AT is slot at this stage in his career, Mingo is best at slot, adding a 3rd slot while needing outside WRs wasn’t a route we were wanting to do. AD, XL, and Coleman were the WRs that we could have picked where we drafted. I personally preferred AD but XL has a lot to like.

XL isn’t exactly lightning quick. He’s more fast than quick. 

XL’s against press in college weren’t good. 

XL has A LOT of work to do if you think he’s going to be some X WR1 type dude. As it stands right now Diontae is our X

58 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Mingo is a big slot. At least that is where he was projected. I’m not saying we don’t need other separators, but we need WR that have different skill sets. Ideally you would want your X or bigger, physical guy like XL to also get separation. Ladd is probably a slot in the NFL and we needed an outside guy. He isn’t going to do well against physical CBs who press him at the LOS. 

Ladd has a much better chance of getting off the line while being pressed than XL does 

Big being and physical is great but if your footwork sucks by the time you’re done bullying your way through a CB the play will be dead

3 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

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