*FreeFua*

Not sure if the clips in here but there’s a play where Bryce rolls out and hits Mingo sitting in the middle of the field

I feel like Canales is going to be doing a lot of that. Getting Bryce out of the pocket and allowing him to see the field

Just now, pantherclaw said:

That out route to TMJ is one of the hardest throws to make in the NFL. 

And when the NFL becomes a 7 v 7 league in 10 years some team will call Bryce and get him off of his couch 

If Canales is who we hope he is there’s no way he doesn’t already realize Bryce is going to hold back this offense 

And I’m pretty sure all 6 completions were short ones 

Where are these “wow” throws Bryce was reportedly making every day 

8 hours ago, ClawOn said:

I mean,  look,  he's probably the best 5'10, 185 pound QB of all time. The problem, of course, is that just doesn't cut it in the NFL.  The nonchalance and obvious lack of commitment to the weight room off season don't bode well for his longevity. 

I was “fine” with the Bryce pick assuming he’d put that same work ethic we were sold on into adding muscle. At his size any muscle gain would be really noticeable and it’s obvious he didn’t do much this offseason

So Dan can spare all the motivated/hard work talk when it comes to Bryce. There’s not much you can control these days but showing up in the best shape possible to give yourself a fighting chance is one of them

Kid didn’t gain a single pound this offseason

Sweet. 

Tom Brady’s arm is night and day better than Young’s

Like wut

There are throws Young simply cannot make in the NFL. He proved that to be a fact last year. There wasn’t a single throw Tom Brady couldn’t make. What are we even doing here?

On 7/19/2024 at 1:11 PM, strato said:

Nothing that Jake said really supported what he was saying. Whether you agree or not, Verge did that.

Jake is like, well Geno did great with Canales so Bryce will too.

It ignores the experience advantage Smith has, and ignores his deep ball reputation.

https://atozsports.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks-news/seahawks-geno-smith-named-best-deep-passer-for-the-2022-season-nfl-news/

PLEASE note I am not saying that doesn’t mean Young won’t improve but it’s a lazy job by Jake; the only real commonality is Canales. And Jake works for the team media so what do you think he is going to say, no comment? 

Haven’t watched Person yet. 

I’m thinking Geno will be our QB in 2025

13 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

We'll be able to tell fairly quickly when things start up if he still looks like a fish out of water.   I'm giving some slack going into the season, but it will apparent early IMO.  It will be telling if he has the growth in him/what it takes to be at least an average starter. 

I agree. My fear is that with Canales he becomes serviceable which puts us right back in that 7-8 win territory that forces another trade up for a QB 

Sure the situation last year was awful but a lot of the sacks were on Bryce last season. There were also more than enough plays each game last year where if he was able to process and play within the timing of the offense there were easy completions to be made

4 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I bet he chooses Bryce

Yeah…

A coach who stresses the importance of timing and footwork would choose a QB who struggles with both of those…

makes sense 

I just hope Canales gets a fair shot with a QB of his choice after this season 

There are so many examples last year where Bryce drops back and should throw the ball but chooses not to

the lack of arm strength, slow processing and terrible footwork shows up a lot. 

This whole 2.7 thing sounds really good but that’s never been Young’s game and Young isn’t a good enough athlete with a good enough arm to playing backyard football in the NFL

Bring on 2025

I’m curious to see what this offense looks like. 

Every coach says they’re going to build around the strengths of their players but not a lot actually do. Canales actually seems to do that.

Canales talks about finding those plays where the QB plants that back foot and rips it and building off of those plays…

When did we ever see Bryce plant that back foot and rip it? Outside of one touchdown pass against GB. Other than that they’re tough to find. Even throughout his time at Bama.

So where in the hell is Canales supposed to start in terms of building a passing game?

I’m almost more curious to see what Baker does this year than I am to watch Bryce. 

If you go and watch all of Baker’s touchdown passes from 2023, there’s maybe 4-5 that Young doesn’t have the arm strength for or that we simply don’t have Mike Evans.

If Young’s able to correctly process what’s out there then in this offense his numbers should be at minimum decent. If they’re not then he’s truly absolute dog sh!t. 

If Baker takes a major step back then I’ll look forward to Canales getting to pick his guy in 2025 

3 hours ago, strato said:

A throwaway is usually okay with me, like a punt. Live to fight on the next play. But he kind of took it to another level, throwing it away on 3rd down. At least throw deep enough that if picked at least it’s like a punt. Somebody might catch it, which OB is automatic DOA give up.

I try and picture good things but in my head it looks like last season to me, which is sort of how I pictured things all along. 

That’s something that stood out to me with Bryce in college. No urgency. That was for sure going to carry over into his pro game. ‘live to see another down’ is fine when you’re playing at Alabama where you’re always going to get the ball back but that’s not the case in the NFL 

24 minutes ago, Mage said:

There is no reason to think the team would stick with Bryce if he continues to look terrible this year.  I'm not sure why so many people are concerned about that.  Not necessarily saying you are, it is just a sentiment I see a lot around here.  

The fact of the matter is the leash for QBs has NEVER been shorter in league history.  Trey Lance didn't even get a 3rd season with the 49ers.  Zach Wilson only got 2 seasons (they didn't plan for him to start his 3rd year) and he's on a new team.  And the Panthers have been cycling through QBs like hot cakes under Tepper.  There just isn't any reason to think the Panthers won't be willing to move onto Bryce.

IMO the only way Bryce looks bad and is still on the starter next year is if the Panthers aren't picking top 3 and can't get a first round QB that they like.  And even then, I would expect the team to make a play in free agency.  So I don't think they are backing themselves in a corner.  

I agree with you. I’ve seen people laugh at the thought the Panthers would move on from Bryce after year 2. Whereas unless this greatly improves I don’t see how they don’t.

Like you said, if they’re picking top 3 again they won’t even have a choice but to move on from Bryce 

They’re backing themselves into a corner if this goes south 

They’re talking about getting his feet right and the ball coming out quick. Well if that doesn’t work there’s nothing left to do. Given the fact Young was drafted 1st due to his ability to process on paper this sounds like the perfect combination

There will be no excuses left after this year for Bryce. 

Where are those people who were telling us he “bulked up”

Also from yesterday.

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

he already answered that question honestly a few weeks back and it wasn't well received. 

he got away from football, spent a lot of time alone and watched Netflix and you tube.   He eventually added back in working out in the morning.   I mean, the honest answer doesn't make you feel good about a struggling rookie QB with a host of issues. 

 

Oh god I missed that. Glad I did. 
 

Bryce kept it very “general” this offseason when asked what he did the offseason to improve and kept to what he’s been doing for years 

didn’t touch the nutritional part of the question

I expect nothing to change this season 

21 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

A bit on the homer side but I wouldn’t hate it. Those stats mean we will win more games. 

That’s the last thing we need. Stumble our way to a couple of pointless victories 

If Bryce shows legit potential (doubtful) then win all the games you want. 

But if we’re winning games like we did with Sam Darnold then that does us no good at all

9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

propping up Canales and calling him an innovator for having a bottom half offense in a horrible horrible division is pretty wild

 

Ive said all along Dave is a fine hire.  A fine hire.  The best tepper could do under the circumstances that he created.  But if you dont see the major red hurricane level beach flags with this hire then you are blind.  I hope it works, I really do but come on.......

Takes 5 mins to hop on YT throw on some Baker highlights and see that a lot of Baker’s big completions aren’t balls Young will throw or quite frankly is capable of throwing

Canales isn’t a Bobby Slowik where he’s scheming guys wide ass open

48 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Didn’t they win a playoff game? 

Also Baker was in the same decision the prior year and sucked so bad he was cut…

Baker was never as bad as this organization made him look. I said that countless times during that year. Baker had enough tape in Cleveland that proved he wasn’t as bad as he was here. 

And again, Mike Evans consistently winning 1 on 1 opens up sooooo much for an offense. 

Plus the division is literally garbage