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If Cousins leads them to an nfcs berth because of our terrible division, they may not have an opportunity to get another Penix if he’s the kind of QB they want. 1-2 years to get used to NFL speed and develop the way rookie QBs should doesn’t hurt his value or long term plan. I’m not a fan of his injury history, but who are we to judge. We’ve been a revolving door of terrible QB play since 2018. 
 

That said. fug the Falcons. 

8 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Lol catchable, it was 5 yards behind him.  Mingo momentum carried him out of bounds.  It was thrown late and behind, stop making excuses for Bryce

My first thought was at that angle he jumped up because he didn't want to blow both hamstrings trying to awkwardly catch a ball that far behind him. 

I think most of us realize that the NFL has moved to an offense first league. It's what the owners and Vegas want. Whether running or passing is your primary focus, you have to be able to exploit the heavily slanted favoritism towards high powered, high scoring offenses. The days of being able to score 17 and win consistently are long gone. NFL is going to favor the teams that drive the "entertainment" value of the league as well as the betting side. 

Hard to say for certain whether or not our roster is improved, but i can say for certain, our coaching staff couldn't be much worse than Rhule and Reich. 2 wins isn't a very high bar. 

28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Look like a legitimate NFL QB. I don't care about stats or even wins right now. Just show me something. Either show me that you can be the guy or show me that we need to move on.

Yep. Gotta show me he put in the work this off-season to deal with the lack of size on his frame and especially the footwork and pre-snap reads. Don't really wanna see a lot of T2G check downs again. Either we see some of what was supposed to be there to make him the number 1 pick, or we move on. 

On 5/10/2024 at 10:17 PM, amcoolio said:

Can you imagine Rhule saying any of that lol

What we have here is a picture of the landscape of football against the landscape of the field painted with numbers that we've drawn up with a certain number of players who create the image that we see in our offensive landscape. 

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Brock Purdy #2 is just hilarious.

Literally no one else in that top 10 would trade their guy for Brock Purdy 

He's a great fit for that system. He may not have all the talent of the others, but he also doesn't fold under pressure like many of them have. 

Cam looks like a Shriner in that hat. 

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Horn or Penny 

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

This signing means blackshear is most likely gone

Only if Penny makes it through TC uninjured. 

On 5/2/2024 at 4:26 AM, Shotgun said:

Atlanta was at least smart enough to draft a QB that's over 6' tall.

So you're saying Tepper and Fitts were a little short sighted? 

2 hours ago, frankw said:

Even Kyle Allen won 5 games. If we can't at least match that someone needs to be packing their bags.

Bryce's closest comp would be Chris Weinke in 2001. 

Bryce shouldn't have sat the season, but he should have sat. It was obvious he wasn't ready, and there's nothing wrong with that. When he was a legit better option than Dalton, he should have been QB1. 

3 hours ago, CRA said:

 Trainwrecks are entertaining too. 

That Britney Spears meltdown was quite entertaining. 

10 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I think it was the Vikings when we drafted Jordan Gross that didn't get the card to the stage (they did it differently then) before the clock expired and the Panthers rushed their card to the commissioner ahead of them.  I think the Panthers had the 9th overall pick, and they drafted Gross 8th overall.  I think that happened to the Vikings again the following year--now, it could have been strategic (knowing they would get their player at a lower salary), but it was odd.

From what I remember it was strategic to lower cap costs since that was pre rookie salary cap. 

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

The only difference is that Sanders is nothing like Thimps and Tremble. As a matter of fact he is twice the TE they are. That doesn't mean he will be anything at this level but the skill set is completely different. 

Thomas is never getting cut. He'll be getting a social security check from the Panthers. 

Still think we should have gone center over RB. The weakest position on the line is the shortest route to the QB. We could survive without a new RB. We wont survive if we still dont know if BY is a franchise QB. All offseason was excuse after excuse about the oline not giving enough time and now we’re banking on a guy with 2 major lower body injuries in 2 years, a guy that’s never played center coming off injury, and a c/g that made Michael Jordan look competent. Add in the back up plan is 4 FA centers or a cast off that couldn’t make a roster. What could possibly go wrong? Being certain BY is our franchise QB is more important than a 1 contract RB?. 

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

The fact that he is speaks volumes about Miles Sanders.

It also speaks volumes to the impact of a strong offensive line. The Cowboys used to devote a lot of draft picks to their line and every back they had ran over everyone until they left. Demarco Murray cones foremost to mind. Sanders ran behind one of the best lines in Philly. Sweat came in and picked up right where he left off. I love having a great RB, but you have to keep investing in your offensive line to be able to use them to their full potential. 

11 hours ago, Shocker said:

Ah…the inevitable hindsight bias thread.  Everyone is a genius after its all over 

It's not hindsight for another 3 years. We always talk about how we could have done better. It's a way to put your money where your mouth is. 

16 minutes ago, Growl said:

wait you believe the panthers have been bad because of mediocre center play?

seems like you’re making my broader point about overvaluing the impact the position has 

It's all part of a collective. Our center play hasn't been mediocre. It's been fuging atrocious. We've watched our centers get run over, turned around, and be completely inept for years. We now have a center coming off 2 knee injuries and backups that have never played center at the NFL level . 

Our receiver play has been piss poor despite investing 2 2nd round draft picks into the position in the past 3 years, spending on free agents.

Investing one 2nd round pick to solidify a position for a decade is a good move and it's something dominant teams constantly invest in. 

3 minutes ago, Growl said:

 

 

the point here is that you can buy quality center player for next to nothing and get veterans in the process 

but I don’t think people want veterans, I don’t even really think they’re in love with the players

i think a lot of people just love the idea of taking centers, either because they’re an easy to project position that probably has a low bust rate and the thought of a bust terrifies a lot of people, or people just like the idea of drafting a center high because it’s tough and huzzah and build those trenches and that seems most “cool” by having big time pick investment 

It has nothing to do with bust rate. We watched Ryan Kalil excel at the position until his neck injury. What a good center does for his linemates and QB often goes unrecognized. FA centers are not so easy to get. If it was such an easy thing to do, we wouldn't have been struggling for going on a decade without a solid one. 

18 minutes ago, Growl said:

both the jets and giants have been every bit as awful as us, how are those ELITE PLUG AND PLAY CENTERS doing for those franchises 

 

 

Better than us. The Panthers have been the worst team in pro sports the past 5 years. 

3 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

So what FA Centers are out there? Because relying on converting both Corbett and Mays to Center with no alternative seems insane.

It is insane. The guy calling protections and with the shortest path to the QB should actually be a guy that's done it for a while. 

It's like driving from NY to LA with an oil leak. You know it's a really bad idea, and any sane person would tell you fix the leak, but hey, you got 3k miles to go and nothing is gonna stop you now, except a seized motor. 

6 hours ago, Martin said:

I still can’t get over how bad Fitt was, it is borderline unbelievable. 

He probably could have thrown a dart at the big board blindfolded with better results.