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3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.

260m 5 year with 180m guaranteed will be his deal. 

23 minutes ago, cranky said:

Sure it is. I mean there are people ( professional prognosticators mind you ) who think he's a serviceable QB trending in the right direction. Of course with them, just like with you, it is simply their opinion.

The difference between them and you is their name isn't listed on the top right page as a 'top huddlers in this topic" of every topic concerning BY.

Mel Kiper said he would retire if Jimmy Clausen wasn't a successful NFL starter too. Just because the experts make a claim doesnt mean it's true either. 

Bryce may be a serviceable QB for someone. Serviceable QBs don't bring you a perennial winner or lead you to the playoffs over and over. Serviceable QBs also dont get 50m plus per year deals which is what a Bryce extension would look like. 

The stats show he hasn't been even a serviceable QB in the 3 years he's been here. The eye test shows he hasn't put together 2 franchise QB salary games back to back in 3 years. 

Complain all you want about people being negative, but people pointing out that Bryce is held to a different standard than anyone else on the team isn't complaining. It's stating the obvious. 

2 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Good lord the media are obsessed with our TE room.

Take a look at our QB room, lads.

They keep looking right over our staring QB. 

18 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Why not just say "I don't understand what you are saying because I'm blinded by hatred." That would at least be honest.

We hate losing. I don't know Bryce to hate him. His play as a QB, I absolutely hate. It's just not good enough. If there were a lottery held to select the order and all 32 starting QBs could be drafted as the starting QB for whatever team selected them, how long do you think it would be before Bryce's name was called? Top 10, top 20, bottom 8? Think about it. 

For me, having never seen back to back games with franchise QB level performance in 3 years tells me what I need to know. We still need to be looking for our solution at QB. 

7 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I maybe wrong, I think its 2 players and you can only protect them from the team your playing that week or some weird rule. I maybe off and I know it changed some. I still recall when that rule first happen, the pats would not protect any player, cause bill thought if teams knows we value these guys the most, teams would sign them.

It also maybe only 4 weeks you can use the "protect" label. I honestly don't know the current wording, it has changed. 

You can protect up to 4 per week but they can't be protected forever. So at some point, they have to come off the list which means if we keep him, he'll likely need to be on the 53. 

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

I'm basically back to the hope that Bain snaps him in half.

Clearly our GM is never going to upset the owner and move away from Young at this point.

During the draft process it was said over and over that Arizona doesnt have a starting QB. Brissett started 12 games. He technically played in 2 others taking a single snap in 1 and 3 in the other. If we take his stats from those 12 starts and average it out for 16 to match Bryce's number his output would have been 

4488 yards 30 TDs and 11 ints.

Now if all the "experts" don't consider that starter worthy how can Bryce's 3011 yards, 23 TDs and 11 int be starter worthy enough to lock in for 2 more years? 

This is disappointing. I was hoping we'd be smart and just let him play on the last year of his contract. Giving a 5th year extension to a QB that hasn't had 2 franchise QB performances back to back in 3 years makes zero sense. At some point Bryce has to feel the pressure to perform or know he's gone. 

I want to believe Dan is going to be a really good GM. poo like this makes me think otherwise. 

5 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

They will not be able to stash him on the practice squad. 

Can't you protect 4 players on PS? 

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Even if he comes back, we drafted his replacement and he doesnt have a deal.  I doubt we franchise tag him so if he is "healthy" some other team will give him LT $ as good/average tackles like him rarely hit the open market.

I think he's going to end up on a prove it deal if he comes back. I cant see anyone paying him a 4 year contract premium LT money without seeing him in live action for a season. It's just too darn risky. 

On 4/26/2026 at 5:08 PM, rebelrouser said:

Icky will be fortunate to come back to play RT or Guard. Very slim chance of him being able to handle LT. And as you mentioned he was more of a RT anyway.  That injury he has is nasty.  We will be in the best spot to determine what he is capable of after rehab.  

Right now I think we're proceeding as if his career is over. The recovery rate back to full NFL readiness is very low. If Icky returns, he probably needs to go inside where he won't have to rely so much on the lateral movement. Unfortunate situation, but it shows why you need guys training to be a #1 at key positions. LT, QB, green dot LB. Any of these guys are 1 injury away from their careers being on the rocks. 

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Cannot judge a draft class until 3 seasons have gone through. It takes that l9ng to determine if the first 3 rounds were worth their selection. Some may become obvious sooner bit some positions take a while longer. 

Very true. It looks good on paper for now. None of the picks look like panic picks, unlike Fitterer. I'm happy we finally drafted a center. We've been playing guys off injury or out of position for nearly a decade. 

Biggest hope is now that Canales won't be calling plays, we can end up getting something out of XL inside the hashes where he has room to run and stop trying to use him on the boundary where he sucks. 

Brockermeyer to the Falcons feels wrong.

Was listening to a podcast a couple days ago and they were talking about how Canales said he wanted to use Legette after he was drafted and he hasn’t followed through with any of it. Not saying they were right, but it was an interesting take I hadn't heard before. 

Still available. Pittsburgh was interested at one time. 

Big daddy Dave has the cash. Spend some on some the udfa we want. That's how we got Coker. We offered more than anyone else. 

1 hour ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I don't know if you saw the interview with Freeling after he was picked.  He said give him about two weeks and he could play RT.  So it gives me hope that if Moton wears down he could move over to RT.  Also, I would think he could play inside if necessary. 

I'm good with the Freeling pick. LT is a position that doesn't hurt from sitting half the season, just to get used to NFL edge rushers, similar to rookie QBs. 

45 minutes ago, VintagePanther said:

Might be my favorite pick so far . Can’t believe we finally took a rangy free safety and a true center lol 

Finally! Somebody in the FO must have finally logged into the Huddle. 

16 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I loved it too.  So many wanted a LB or Safety.  I said months ago that I thought our biggest need was OT.  I would have loved to see one of the top players fall to us. In a sense, it did with Freeling because most mocks had him gone before 19. 

Nothing would make me happier than to see us have a LT that we can rely on.  I remember when we had J. Gross and no one ever mentioned OT when the draft came up.  It would be nice to have a LT we could count on for 10 years or so. 

I wanted a tackle as long as we didn't reach or pass on an elite blue chip if one miraculously fell, and as long as we weren't trying to make a RT fit into the LT spot. I expected us to come out with at least 1 lineman, possibly 2 and maybe 3 if we grabbed one in the 6th or an UDFA that stuck. We need depth. Last year we used 14 linemen. The trenches are a meat grinder. 

7 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Heavy on the lines, that’s the best thing about it 

We needed it. We were awfully thin. I'd be happy if we added a G/T or G/C or an actual return guy in the 6th. 

Looks like he is a solid tackler. Need that. 

Finally. We haven't had a real center since Kalil. I don't count Paradis because he was already broken when we got him.

1 minute ago, AceMan said:

I feel like the Colts are picking every player that would be good for the Panthers

Indy is like that asshat in FF drafts that takes your guy right before you pick. 

33 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

Grade school during the Cam years

Damn we're old lol

I'm not old. Well maybe. I saw the original Star Wars trilogy in theaters. 

Do we look at Jermod McCoy? 1st round talent coming off torn ACL. 

23 minutes ago, PantherBoy95 said:

With the moves we made in FA, I'd be very happy with a LB in the 2nd. Plus you'd like to think Dan Morgan (and I'm sure some input from Kuechly) can identify a great LB talent.

You hope. Though I still wonder why we took Wallace over Wilson in 24.