SmokinwithWilly

Go back and watch the Mich-OSU game to see him go full Dawg.

8 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

33. Bpa.

Why? Because we need it.

39. Bpa.

Why? See 33.

Don't overthink this.

I think it should be best impactful player available. We just spent a small fortune on 2 guards. If BPA was a guard that wasn't likely to crack the starting lineup for a couple years, that would be a bad pick IMO. I know we don't have many, if any, of those guys really, but likelihood to get playing time has to be taken into account for a pick(s) that high in the 2nd for a team with so many needs. 

21 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I cannot understand why anyone listens to that goober. He hasn't ever got a single pick right. He's a bum.

They watch just to see if a random ember from a cigar will set that excessively gelled hair on fire. 

If JPJ is there at 33, I think he has to be the pick. Offense literally starts with the center. He has to be able to call the protections and make life easier for whoever is taking the snaps. We've had shitty center play for a while now. 3 solid guys in the center gives you the best chance for BY (or whoever) to be successful.

At 39, take the best WR available. It's a deep WR draft. Someone is going to slide. 

We have 2 first round picks?

5 hours ago, ChuckWag78 said:

That is how the media works though.  I don't want to hear about it all year. For 2024, Bryce is the guy. There is almost no scenario where I would pull him, outside of injury, for the backup.  

If it's about winning, then Bryce has to be pullable. If it's not, then why the hell are you playing the game? 

49 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

That trading down could have been a gold mine if he picked the right players 

Instead of JC Horn at pick 8 he could have gotten any of these slam dunks 

- Patrick Surtain, Devonta Smith, Micah Parsons, Rashawn Slater. All came off the board right after our pick.

Creed Humphrey (starting C for Cheifs and 2x SB Winner)  at pick 59 in R2
Instead of TMJ 

osa odighizuwa (DT Cowboys) at pick 70 in R3 instead of Brady Christensen

Nico Collins WR Houston at pick 83 instead of Tommy Tremble
 

Humphrey was the pick and anyone with an eye for football and this team's needs knew it. We were terrible at center and we've all seen the value in having that position locked down for a decade with Kalil. Humphrey was about as solid a C prospect as you'll see. 

20 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

It makes sense to take one from a roster building perspective.  But from a team culture perspective, using a pick that early is basically a vote of no confidence in Bryce.

Not really. This is the NFL and guys get hurt or outplayed by someone else. If Nix or any other QB pick gets drafted and is a serious threat to BY's job, or beats him out for starter, then we already have the answer about BY. If Nix, McCarthy, or another QB we think is the BPA is there, pull the trigger. Having 2 capable QBs is not a bad thing. Love rode the bench behind Rodgers for years, and it gave the Packers the flexibility to move on from Rodgers when the time was right. This should be about creating a better team overall. Draft capital is a spent asset. Put the best player on the field, every game, regardless if they're drafted 1st, 33rd or not drafted at all. 

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Fitts was a bum. I told y'all he was a bum when he took a GM job that didn't have final roster say. No legit GM candidate is taking a GM job in title only.

My thought at the time was he did it to get in the door. Anyone who listened to Rhule knew he was full of poo and he was going to be gone faster than a roach coach burrito on taco Tuesday, and he should have been after season 2. If he had to tolerate Matt for a year and then get to do his job, that's one thing. Turns put he sucked both balls, but these jobs are hard to get and playing along for a year to get one would have been a clever move. Sadly, a move that clever would have been the highlight of his tenure as GM. 

1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

That's what surpised me. Usually doesn't the local council say fug you to the public and give the billionaires whatever they want. Like 40 ticketed concerts a year creates some massive trickle down effect to help the working class BS

The high quality food at some of those places will give you something for damn sure. 

1 hour ago, strato said:

You only trade if someone will over pay.

Unfortunately we can't pick up the phone and call the Carolina Panthers. 

3 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

You guys ‘member when the Raiders traded only like a 3rd round pick or something for Antonio Brown? Or the Cardinals trading for DeAndre Hopkins and only getting like one good season out of him? I don’t think trading for disgruntled WRs has quite the positive track record some seem to believe it does.

The DHop trade from the Texans was highway robbery. Lack of production on his part was not because of a lack of skills on his part. If we could get Tee Higgins for a 4th and Sanders I'd take that deal all day long and twice on Sunday. 

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He didn't and we moved on. I wasn't mad about that. Corral wasn't it. We're still all in on another one though because of the investment we made.

I'm not upset about it at all either. Just more of a statement about how much QBs actually regressed under Rhule. Rhule was something special, in a necrotic STD sort of way. 

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He's at least as talented as Bryce but he still looked like a boy amongst men on an NFL field. I mean, when a guy just simply doesn't belong from a talent perspective it sticks out.

He never really had a chance under Rhule the fool. There was never any QB development for anyone under that idiot. 

12 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

If that happens then we draft a new QB next year and move on as a franchise.

ATL hasn't recovered since that super bowl.

We haven't recovered since David Tepper bought the team. 

Just now, Captroop said:

Falcons Fans taunting us on 4/27:

If by some ungodly reason Bryce goes 1-14 to start the season, we're looking at our own 3-28. As much fun as we've made of them, I'm sure they'd return the favor with just as much enthusiasm. 

18 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Not if Canales runs right at him. These guards and tackles would eat him alive. 

Time for Ian Thomas to earn his paycheck 

Depending on your budget, Walker is the mac daddy of mowers. Mulching mower will run you 14 grand but you'll have a mower that leaves a beautiful finished product. I've run Walker, Toro, Exmark, JD, Gravely, Bad Boy, Spartan and even Cub Cadet. They all have their advantages/disadvantages depending on the type of deck

Some stuff to think about before buying. 

How much grass are you cutting off per mow/ how often? This is relevant to whether you need to bag, mulch or side/rear discharge.

What type of soil? Sandy soil will eat up blades. You end up keeping sand in the vortex under the mower and you will sandblast the underside of your deck. 

Is your land level or rolling? Hinged decks work much better on rolling turf vs floating decks for flatter. Downside, only a few lines run hinged decks and they ain't cheap. 

Are you doing the maintenance or paying someone else? Look at your most common repair parts for a zero turn, mainly hydros. How much do they run? Are they even available local or online only? There are some mowers that replacing hydros costs more than a new mower. 

I always buy from a  local dealer that stocks parts for whatever I'm buying. 

I also do this commercially so my standards are a bit higher, but in order, my preference is Walker, Exmark, Toro, Gravely, Spartan, Bad Boy, CC. I won't touch a Craftsman. 

So the bot is no longer banned?

7 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Honestly I'm not really a Bryce backer Rum. I can just be objective and realistically understand that every play is not in a vacuum. If they draft a QB in the 7th round that beats Bryce out and takes Carolina to the Super Bowl, I would never utter his name again. 

Dalton played better in Seattle in a very loud, hostile environment than Bryce had to that point. If the goal was truly about winning, Bryce would have been holding a clipboard until he truly beat out Dalton, which leads me to believe the goal was never about winning and that in itself is a huge problem. Someone, here's looking at you Dave, was trying to prove they knew best and were damn sure going to prove it. 2 wins and 15 losses later, I think we can safely say Bryce wasn't ready to be an immediate NFL starter if winning really was the priority. 

34 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The way it is now:  22 men run on the field and the kicker kicks it out of the end zone.  you think they are safe when that happens, but they are still being blocked.

The way it is now with the new rule, there are plays you can run after catching the ball in play. 

Finally, if you have ever played on the kickoff team, when you are running full speed, watching the returner, staying in your lane, and the receiving team is basically blocking you by running at you at a 90 degree angle, sticking their helmets in your ear hole, you would appreciate this rule. 

It is different. and I always worry about NFL records.  But the more information that comes out about CTE and concussions, the more the game will change.  I realize the closest many of you come to getting injured on a kickoff is if you get a chicken nugget caught in your windpipe, but we want to see the best players on the field.  The data explains that the kickoff is the play with the highest concussion rates, so they addressed the problem.  These are not gladiators.  They are professional athletes and we came to see them play not get blue tented and it would be nice if they could function at the age of 50.

One of the worst concussions I ever got was on a kickoff coverage. Me and another guy ran full speed into each other and I damn sure got my bell rung. Seemed like a good idea at the time but it was a dumb ass thing to do. Spent the next few minutes trying to get the world back into focus. 

1 hour ago, MechaZain said:

We're talking about defenses crowding the box last year though. Could be because they don't think Bryce can throw it, or they saw our origami offensive line, or they knew our bozo coaches weren't calling deep balls, or maybe the league isn't afraid of DJ Chark. We don't know how much each part played into it. It could be any or all of it.

I admit I checked out as the season went on so I could have just missed them, but I don't remember many plays falling apart because Bryce underthrew. We're mostly going off the fact that we avoided going deep but I have a hard time running with the narrative that they were working around Bryce's arm when everything that staff did was inept and nonsensical. 

Here's my thing. If you're playing safety and have Bryce passing, you know you can cheat a little towards the line because you have time to catch up. Bryce isn't throwing missles like Cam did. He doesnt have that type of arm. Depending on where he is, you can rule out parts of the field because he's not making a 40 yard pass cross field with serious velocity. An extra half to full second is long time for an NFL level defender to recover. Guys like Josh Allen can flick their wrist of their back foot and toss it 50 yards on a rope. Bryce can't. Defenses know that stuff and can adjust accordingly. That's just basic NFL game planning. 

3 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

We can’t assess that in a vacuum. Defenses don’t care how strong his arm is if the protection and receivers can’t support the deep ball.

Sure you can. Velocity, angle, air time, loft, accuracy. Every one of these can be measured without a receiver. Either he can get the ball there at an elite level or he can't. 

9 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

So what metric do we use to measure college quarterbacks as NFL prospects then? If what they did as a college starter doesn't matter in terms of what they can do in the NFL then how is a prospect supposed to be analyzed properly? I'm not even talking statistically. I simply mean the body of work they put onto the field. And that absolutely matters in terms of figuring out whether or not this is the quarterback you want to lead an NFL team. This isn't meant to be negative for my end either. This is seriously just my attempt to understand where you're coming from

You start by basically ignoing their game stats and start looking at the player in a vacuum. How do they move? How do they set their feet? Throwing motion, field vision, urgency, progression through reads, feel for the rush, everything that is immediately the control of that individual player. Then you start expanding and adding outside factors, like competition level, blitz performance, elite level players faced, stadium environment, coaching, surrounding cast, game plan.  Keep adding layers to an onion that all contribute to the whole picture. 

Bryce himself has questionable height, limited vision, terrible footwork, subpar arm strength, questionable pocket awareness, questionable decision making ability, and lacks physical strength to evade minimal contact without going down. 

None of those things have anything to do with the players around him. Those things are all Bryce. Can he improve some of those? Yes. Can he do enough to overcome his shortcomings? I don't know, but if he does, I'll be shocked. For the price we paid, he needs to be a legit pro bowl selection for multiple years. 

Personally, I'm not sure he's even an NFL starter by the time his rookie contract is up. 

32 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

So.... what you are saying is that is it too cost prohibitive to bring in grass 9x a year, but you can do it once or twice per year for a soccer match.

Say that out loud Tepper and then back it up with numbers in the grand scheme of things.  One salary lost from a good player tearing up a knee or ankle would likely pay for an entire season.

It's not so much cost prohibitive. Grass needs time root for the demands on football. Soccer doesn't have the grinding and torque on soil so it's not as difficult to play on less rooted turf.