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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Fitts can't afford too. He wouldn't get anywhere close to what he turned down from the Rams and he'd get skewered for trading him mater for significantly less.

Good lord he’s brutal at his job isn’t he 

We aren’t winning a game 

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's year one of a rebuild 

This isn’t how the team has been operating though. If they truly believed this they would have taken the Burns deal. I agree we SHOULD be rebuilding, but the moves we have been making are that we are a “QB away,” and now that we have that guy it’s time to win. Any team who thought they were rebuilding loads up on draft picks and we are literally doing the opposite of that. 

16 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Howell looks good when he has some time.  We really should have taken him.  Such an easy home town pick.  Sigh.

There’s no way you think he’s a better prospect than Bryce

I think the frustrating thing is the Falcons were able to erase a 12 point fourth quarter lead. If we even get down by 7 at any point in any game it basically feels over. We do not produce big plays. Every thing has to always go in our favor to win a game

Falcons 2-0

Bucs 2-0

We lose tomorrow Saints will also be 2-0 and we’ll be 0-2, effectively ending our season. Not that any of us expected playoffs this season anyways 

2 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

they wont eat crow but the many huddlers who said he was a bust two years ago... you did a good job demonstrating you dont understand professional football. Hats off to you.

We never said he was a bad player. We said that was a talented draft class with more valuable pieces in it, I wanted CD or Wirfs on draft night and I’d still prefer either of those over DB currently.

For the record, we drafted DB to stop the run and got gashed on the ground Sunday. Obviously that’s not his fault, I just don’t see him as an elite game altering player.

27 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Oh I agree with you 1000%. Just take a look at our weapons and then compare them to the top offenses in the league. Dolphins have Hill and Waddle. Bills have Diggs and Davis. Chargers have Keenan and Mike Williams. 49ers have Deebo and Aiyuk. Eagles have AJ Brown and Devonta Smith. Chiefs have Kelce. Detroit has Amon Ra St brown and Jameson Williams coming back. Jaguars have Ridley and Kirk. Cowboys have Ceedee Lamb. Bengals have Chase and Higgins. You get the gist. You could argue that WR has dethroned LT in today's modern NFL in terms of importance.

My point is, unless you have a Sean McVay who can scheme nobodies to two 100+ yard games, you aren't going to compete with the best in today's NFL without playmakers on offense. It doesn't matter how many studs you have on defense nowadays, it's not the 2000s anymore. The NFL is literally geared toward high scoring offenses now, and yet we're still so behind paying RBs $25.4 million and dishing out all our assets and money to defense.

I'm really hoping Reich and this staff understand this. The days of "defenses win championships" are simply over. It's nothing more than a nostalgic facade of the days of the past. Even the rules are geared towards offense now. None of this is to say you ignore your defense, but we absolutely should solely focus on building the offense right now. 

4 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Ok so the Huddle doesn't agree with me on this and they never will, but I would have already traded Burns and Brown for high draft picks. I would use those picks to build an elite offense around Young. Only AFTER we had a high octane offense would I look to build up the defense. The defense would cheap, young, and scrappy until i had the time to start building on it. Offense first. That way you protect Young, and you make the games more fun to watch. Defense second. Rhule came in and drafted all defense, and brought in game managing QBs. You saw what happened. Not on my watch.

Yeah, you'll get flamed for this but I wholeheartedly agree with this. 

One issue with our franchise is we can never go all in on anything. Everything is half assed. Look at how the Bengals have built around Burrow, the Chargers around Herbert, the Dolphins around Tua. You. Just. Never. Stop. Adding. Weapons. We have our QB (or so we hope). What our QB does not have is an adequate supporting cast. The stats yesterday are ugly as our receivers created the least separation of any unit in the league yesterday. This is an awful situation to drop a rookie QB into.

And the problem is, if the history of our franchise tells us anything, we'll probably find one above average receiver for him one day and it'll be straight mediocrity around him the rest of his career. I'm at the point where I want every pick to be a pass catcher until we find like five really good ones. Everything else can wait until later.

Selling off the valuable pieces on our team and reinvesting into building an all star cast around Bryce is legitimately a great team building strategy. But we'll never, ever think like that so we just have to hope we stumble ass backwards into maybe a pair of solid receivers really soon.

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm definitely not sold on Fitts being the answer. Trading your only proven WR when you're mortgaging the future to trade up to get a QB is... well, interesting.

See this move I’ll defend all day. Without that trade we would have had the ninth pick. Our options would have been Will Levis or another year of San Darnold. We couldn’t afford to wait and hope we would be bad enough for Caleb/Drake. Last offseason was the time to make the move and if it came at the expense of DJ, so be it. Was Bryce the right choice? It’s obviously far too soon to say. But the trade up was a totally justifiable move and I’d even call it a great one.

How they rebuilt the WR room already looks troubling to the say the least. Mingo is actually promising, but it’s not good when a mid second round rookie is the best target your rookie QB has to throw to. I’m not sure if any of our receivers are running quicker than a 4.6 right now. Thielen was a great player in his prime but he’s clearly toast and we gave him three years. Again - that’s a troubling move. 

The WR’s were never going to be great this year, but there were potentially better veterans out there whether in FA or in the trade market. Bryce really needs someone with a quick release that gets open quickly and we have no one capable of doing that.

51 minutes ago, Scum of the Turf said:

A lot of the way things are now are because of Rhule jmo

We just can’t keep using that excuse forever. At a minimum we know he was a part of the scouting/evaluation process.

Just now, CRA said:

We have weak WRs overall.  And Bryce and the scheme isn’t going to threaten downfield that often.  So it allows a D to zone in on more predictable route targets IMO. 

If Bryce Young is your QB….you need quick dudes and dudes that can get quick separation.  We got basically zero of those types.   Mingo might become that but he is just a rookie. 

I think you nailed it. It's funny because he's played for a million teams but watching this game today I was thinking about how even a guy like Brandin Cooks could help our team so much right now. We basically need someone that has a super quick and twitchy release that can reliably get open quickly on quick slant routes and such.

11 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

They don't get 'College' open, no. You have to throw them open at this level. 

That just isn't true. Kyle Shanahan is able to scheme someone open almost every play. Other coaches are able to do it also. We've just never had one or we haven't had the talent at receiver.

1 minute ago, Mojoman said:

I strongly disagree.  He did a great job going through his progressions and sensing when time was up and needed to move to avoid pressure. If you were listening to Jake Delhomme on the radio during the game, Jake was gushing in his praise for BY.  Yes both of the interceptions were on him, but I believe he will learn to avoid repeating.  My only compaint is he needs to work on his deep ball accuracy.

I've seen the last thing a few times but I only saw him throw two deep balls? The one could have been complete if lazy ass TMJ didn't stop running his route. Other one he missed for sure.

He looked rough and scared to take chances but I also think the film could tell a new story. I think by far our most glaring issue is our receivers do not get open.

1 minute ago, carpanfan96 said:

My one cause for concern is that both of Youngs interceptions were on the same type of read. 

See I actually feel okay about this because knowing what we know about Bryce and how much extra work he puts in when it comes to breaking down film I really think he'll get that cleaned up asap. The glaring concern with Bryce and/or the offense as a whole is we look incapable of pushing the ball 10+ yards down the field. Everything was underneath today

1 minute ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

I’d rather this team just sell to Europe to so I can just be an nfl fan. I’m tired 

I mean being a fan is so fun. It may be 10 years away but one day we'll be good again and it'll be worth it. I've gotten so used to losing though I kind of just laugh at it now.

6 minutes ago, FutureDynasty said:

The '01 and 2010 Panthers would like to have a word with you...

Yes, todays performance actually reminded me of 2010. I was too young in 01 seeing as I was born in 96 I wasn't really watching football yet

This has nothing to do with the Bryce trade which I'm still fine with. Let's go through the list:

• Jaycee Horn - always hurt
• Terrace Marshall - can't be bothered enough to even try finishing a route, also always hurt
• Tremble -useless
• Corrall - out of the league already

These are only the day two picks, not a single day 3 pick he's made has made any sort of impact either. Let's keep going though.

• Traded a day two pick for CJ Henderson.
• Signed Miles Sanders who's fumble changed the entire game today.
• Is playing hardball with by far the best player on the team after turning down a lucrative trade package to move him.

Again I'm still fine with the Bryce trade as I obviously think he's someone we can build the future of our franchise around. But he's made multiple other high leverage moves/picks that have been nothing short of disastrous so far. Without serious turnaround/growth from this roster he should absolutely get canned come January.

Not much else to say.

One of the worst performances not just in our franchise history, but one of the worst games I've seen from any NFL team ever. Defense looked alright at times, but even they had the benefit of playing maybe the worst QB in the league.

Jaycee Horn is already hurt again, and our only other really promising player is the one who our current GM is playing hardball with.

There are some okay players on this team but there is no one I'd categorize as elite. No one in the tier of Cam, Luke, Olsen, Davis type of players that we have had in the past. Even the players we have that are good the Ws/Ls don't seem to matter too much to them. None of these guys appear bothered to try.

Bryce was awful but in his defense I don't think we have a receiver capable of getting open down the field right now.

Bryce should maybe make sure he knows where Bates is here

Piss poor 

We just gave away this game man

Expecting this to go like 31-16 Falcons

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Crowd is weak smh

It's 100 degrees and a preseason game.