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Just now, Champagnepapi704 said:

Let's find something on our 32nd pick rookie 

We could have had Ladd McConkey who is going to finish with over 1,200 receiving yards.

I understand he’s a rookie. And he was a late bloomer in college also. But he’s having back breaking drops every single week. He had an awful one today that would have set us up with a first down in TB territory, and there was another third down play that while it wasn’t a drop he easily could have made a play on the ball and he just let a defender knock it away.

This is not me giving up on him. But when rookies that were taken just picks after him are the focal point of playoff offenses I think it’s fair that we start bringing this up. We can’t keep giving him a pass because of his funny accent 

5 minutes ago, rayzor said:

The problem hasn't been the play design or calling or QB play. It's been dropped balls and a struggling defense.

Neither Canales or BY can catch the balls. They're doing everything they can to put players in a situation to get the ball caught and moved down the field. It's on the rest of the players to do their own job.

When do we talk about our first round rookie? The one that’s good for a back breaking drop every single week? The one who despite being a “physical specimen” refuses to show strength at the catch point on what could have been a crucial third down conversion? While the player a lot of us wanted with that pick is the focal point of an offense that’s going to be playing in January. Do we keep giving him a pass because he has a funny accent?

XL is a liability right now. Maybe the biggest on this offense.

2 hours ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

I wish Canales would give someone else a change to call the offense. He playcalling was not good at all...again.

We’ve had, what? 850 or so yards of offense over the past two weeks?

Look I am not a Bryce truther I think he’s a backup at best still.

But BUDDY this lacks a ton of context. We were playing with a double digit lead for much of the game and Canales really closed the playbook. Which I really don’t get because Bryce looked confident and in rhythm today. When we did go back to the pass at times there were crucial drops that killed drives. I remember Coker not coming away with one that wasn’t the easiest catch but still one he needs to make. That would have been a solid 15 yard gain and new set of downs. Then Legette had another brutal drop that would have been like a 7-8 yard gain to set up a third and short. 

Now I’m all for entertaining if Canales game script today speaks to the trust/confidence he has in Bryce. But can yall just enjoy something for just a little while?

Our roster is as depleted as it is because we’ve continuously made shortsighted trades pursuing minimal short term gains. We shouldn’t be trading for anyone right now!!!!!!!!!!!!

We are an absolute disaster. Top to bottom. Unfixable

4-13 or 5-12 feels most likely. If we win 7-8 that’s an incredible overachievement. Our roster is horrendous. We don’t have a single top tier talent on the entire team.

11 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

If the top-4 stays put, I have a hard time seeing LAC staying put.

They become the team NYG and MIN are calling…could see NYG & LAC swapping to assure JJ in NY. The MIN is out of luck/ends up with Penix v Nix.

I don’t think the Giants are too high on JJM

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

If the Panthers were tanking I could easily get behind this but they’re clearly not 

No one will say they're tanking but the ceiling is 5 wins this year lmao

It’s perfectly fine to believe Bryce showed some very real red flags in year one. Because I agree - I have my concerns.

But what choice do we have right now? We have no option but to give him another year. It’s like most people on this forum would rather go through another miserable season just so they can be proven right for random internet bragging rights. Are you even a fan of the team?

Bryce is going to be QB1 in 24 and there’s nothing we can do about it. The way I look at it, we have no choice but to hope he demonstrates real improvement and proves to be someone we can build around. You really think bringing in Gardner Minshew or Drew Lock right now is a better option?

Let’s just hope for the next 12 months he improves. If not? Guess what we’ll be awful again and can start fresh with another high pick

Brown

Luvu

Moton

23 minutes ago, Manna said:

My hope is that if they build the team right, eventually they’ll see that it’s Bryce holding the team back and draft a new QB eventually. Kind of like what KC did with Alex Smith and Mahomes, and to a certain degree 49ers with Jimmy G - Lance - Purdy. 

It drives me insane how many people are still operating under the belief that if we just get a QB in plae we'll be good. This is the worst roster in the league without a shadow of doubt. Right now our only priority is building up the rest of the roster as opposed to wasting more assets chasing a QB only to play with the worst supporting cast in the NFL.

3 minutes ago, hepcat said:

It is Canales decision to keep Evero, so be it. But it’s clearly a decision coming from Tepper. I just think holdovers from a previous staff are risky, even successful ones.

Absolutely.

If Canales meets with Evero and determines that they can collaborate and share a cohesive vision for team building and roster construction, then perfect! Evero has more than proven to be one of the league's best DC's and we'd all be lucky to have him stick around a few more years.

But if Canales thinks the assistant outside linebackers coach is a better fit, and he wants that person to be his DC. Well, then, that's what he should get.

31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly past caring on the Burns front. I'd let him straight up walk before I gave him cap crippling money.

Yup. And it would be one thing if we felt like we were close and he could put you over the top. But that’s not where we are. Get whatever we can for him and move on. Brown is someone you re sign and build around in my eyes, Burns is not

45 minutes ago, Memphis said:

That is huge.

Good job Morgan and Tepper.

Can someone explain what is attractive for Tilis in coming to the Panthers. His title and role is the same no? So it is a pay bump? Or....

I’m sure it’s a massive pay raise

I get we’re all in on shitting on everything we do right now, but do any of us have the first clue what this means?

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

As expected...

Our whole operation (rightly) gets a lot of criticism currently. But this whole process in Atlanta doesn’t actually look super clean either

42 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

A lot of his run schemes are identical to what Reich and Brown tried to do this year. Either the OL will have to be overhauled to match the scheme or we're gonna have a bunch of guys acting as square pegs in round holes. 

That’s one concern I definitely have. Is he the type married to one philosophy or will he gauge his personnel and build his offensive foundation to the strengths of it? Because the great coaches do the latter. I have no clue what he’ll do, only one year as OC we really can’t say what his approach will be here.

Falcons have already announced Raheem (pretty much). I do wonder what’s the hold up with us? If we wanted to go super deep ultra conspiracy is there a 1% chance Tampa is trying as a Hail Mary to move on from Bowles to promote Canales? I saw a bunch of their fans wanting to do that anyways.

When do we think we get a team announcement?

6 minutes ago, Evil Hurney said:

Seems unlikely that Canales will be one-and-done for a lot of reasons. I think the only way that happens is the team somehow ends up with the #1 (or #2) pick in the draft and they can reset (again) with a QB and Coach at the same time.

The next time Verge makes a good point it will be the first time. Rhule got 2.5 years to figure it out. Where is the impatient label coming from?

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

One thing that is going for him... Pete Carrol is one of the best culture builders to ever do it. He's the rare type that could do it both in college and NFL which means his system truly works. Pete hired Canales to USC from COMMUNITY COLLEGE and has followed him everywhere and worked his way up until he left for the Bucs. That's almost 15 years of seeing exactly how Pete does team building at different stops. Gotta imagine a lot of that stuck with Canales. 

On a similar note, I wish Tepp would pay Pete a billion dollars to come on in some sort of advisory role.