Castavar

It's more about the process and mindset for me. Because every team is going to miss on players. But if the logic is there, I have no problem whiffing on a player. It's when we take players like Vernon Butler as a luxury when we had the best tandem in the league instead of going after someone like Michael Thomas when we had a dire need at WR. Or drafting the 2nd best CB over the consensus #1 rated CB (Horn over Surtain). Or drafting taking a 5'9 QB over an equally rated 6'3 QB. Or drafting a long snapper over Trey Smith when a guard was a big need for us.

So for me, it's not about who we draft, it's about whether the pick makes sense from a need or BPA standpoint, which more times that not leaves me saying "WTF" during the draft.

Eh, take that with a grain of salt. CJ Stroud was "struggling" in training camp and preseason before he lit the league up. Cam Newton the same way. I just hope Bryce plays like a true #1 pick this year so Panthers football can be fun again. Fug everybody else

Wow, Jstew looks like he's lost about 30 lbs. Good for him, dude is looking healthy

2 minutes ago, csx said:

I don't think Brady will necessarily be good.  He's such an unlikanle ass and I 

I don't either tbh It takes more than just knowing the game inside out to be a good commentator. Timing, personality, energy, etc. Brady doesn't strike me as a guy that has an energetic tone in his voice. More monotone if anything. Fox really screwed the pooch with this one. This is the equivalent of cutting your QB that just won MVP lol

On 5/17/2024 at 12:01 PM, CPcavedweller said:

The UGA game from Stroud is all anyone should've needed to see.

Bryce had big moments but the biggest thing I noticed, and pointed out, was that he was always scrambling around despite having good protection. This was seen as a positive from evaluators but I saw it as a negative. He couldn't make plays, or throws, on time and from the pocket. People saw the scrambling and compared him to a mini-Patrick Mahomes because that works in college. It does not work in the NFL.

I ended up being right. 

That Bryce game vs LSU is all I needed to see to know he wasn't it. I said in one of the threads that Bryce will be seeing pressure up the middle ALL THE TIME in the NFL. He struggled MIGHTILY in that game (and Texas for that matter) because of that interior pressure.

Honestly, training camp and preseason will tell me a lot. Last year's preseason was one of (if not the) worst preseasons I have EVER witnessed. A lot of us even said it right away but got met with (lol it's only preseason.......vanilla playcalling......durr). I want execution in the preseason. 1st and 2nd string able to pull together some successful plays/drives and not look like the worst team in the NFL in all phases getting bullied by other teams 3rd stringers against our 1st stringers like last year.

In order for this to be successful, you need:

1) A top tier RB like Lynch (maybe we got one in Brooks?)

2) A franchise QB on a rookie contract (got the rookie contract part down)

3) A dominate/opportunistic defense (could have that as long as Evero is here)

4) A QB able to CONSISTENTLY hit the deep shots when they are there (hasn't been evident yet)

5) A QB who can scramble and make plays with his legs (saw a glimpse of that Bryce's rookie year)

It could work. It really all just comes down to if our #1 pick can make that jump.

Damn. Was really rooting for the dude to make the team. He's had sh*tty luck just in general with him losing his brothers the way he did and obviously his injuries. Dude can't catch a break man. Rooting for him wherever he ends up.

18 minutes ago, 332nd said:

As I always say in threads like this, I learned I have no business in an nfl front office when my dumb ass was furious we burned a 3rd rounder on some undersized WR (from Utah of all places!!!) back in 2001.

Players like Smitty and Brady are far and few between. It's about CONSISTENTLY drafting the right players. Look at our last recent drafts. We would be better off right now had the huddle just made the picks. And it would cost them millions of dollars less.

You'd be a better GM than whatever we've had for the past 5 years.

16 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

Sanders has a 2nd round grade. He is the BPA right now.

BPA AND fills a dire need? Yeah, we not doing it

3 minutes ago, MrBubba said:

Roman Wilson to Pittsburgh, strong pick up for Russell Wilson

The Steelers always have drafts of most of the players I always want every year. Joey Porter Jr, Keeanu Benton and Darnell Washington last year, and Frazier/Wilson this year. It's no coincidence they are always in the playoffs every year. Them boys know how to draft.

Just now, Ricky Spanish said:

I don't know enough about him to have an opinion.

But a RB and a LB in the 2nd and 3rd are not positional reaches. They are reaches in the 1st.

He was not great in college at all. Purely another RAS pick, just like DJ Johnson last year

Morgan was a big part of the worst rostered teams in the league for the past few years, this shouldn't surprise anyone. Pointless trade downs instead of just drafting BPA, drafting injured players, and reaching on RAS scoring players.............basically Fitterer 2.0.

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Another RAS obsession pick.

Because it's worked so well for us already smh

Y'all gotta be honesty with yourselves, this 100% felt like a Fitterer draft. WTF are these picks?

Just now, PantherChris said:

Beason

Kalil 

Kudos for the memory. The fact you even remember specifics of a draft that was more than almost 2 decades ago is impressive

Just now, CPantherKing said:

You don't draft RBs in the first 3 rounds

FIFY

When has trading back actually benefited us? I genuinely can't think of a time it has. Just take the BPA available at your pick and stop getting cute. Fitterer 2.0 all over again, makes sense considering Dan was his wingman.

This is the guy that learned behind Fitterer for all those years. Not surprising at all.

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Choose between Ryan Kalil vs Matt Paradis. 

Paradis right. Because center makes no difference. 

Give me a stud center over a stud RB ANY day of the week

2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

So once again we lazer focused on one guy and didn't react to how the Draft fell. Got it.

Had our INSTANT 10 year starter at center sitting right there for the taking. Can't wait to bump this thread whenever Corbett gets hurt and Bryce is going ram rodded up the middle because we wanted to get cute just like we always do.

5 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I just don't get this team. I honestly believe fans are better at picking than the team. Banging the drum for Frazier, we pass. And you just know center is going to be a problem this year and the team will make excuses. 

Same with banging the drum for Creed Humphry a few years ago, and Trey Smith in the 6th round and we took a freaking longsnapper

And the worst part is there are still fans that validate this type of sh*t and act like these are good moves, knowing damn well what they've seen for the past 5 years.

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Wait he's coming off an ACL injury?

 

My goodness what a stupid pick for a low valued position smh. Is he even going to be the same runner before the ACL injury?

Only the Panthers would trade down, miss out on some elite options at NEEDED positions, trade BACK up for a the lowest position value in the NFL, and the dude is coming off an ACL injury lmao You can't make this sh*t up

LMFAO And then people wonder why we continue to be the laughing stock year after year