Mr. Scot

San Francisco. Watson in Shanahan's system could be something to watch.

And while I know what fans think about them, I wouldn't discount the Jets.

2 minutes ago, BrianS said:

To be completely fair to Cam, when we got a lead under Rivera, we had absolutely ZERO killer instinct.  We just shut it down and tried to kill the clock.  I don't think we can blame Cam entirely for some of that type behavior when it was fairly clear that it was cultivated by the coach.

I get that, and it's not like Rivera and his staff were ever known for winning the second half adjustment game.

That said, I remember being concerned about his second half performances those first few years. He got past it though, so that was good.

Just now, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

But Watson went to Clemson and Charlotte is a few hours away and this is “home”. 

So I've heard...

7 minutes ago, davos said:

They have the assets, are on the upswing, great defense, a legit young TE & OL...and a trade history w/HOU.  An ideal setup makes it seem almost too good to happen.

NYJ are another dumpster fire, doubt Watson wants that, and this is the rare NFL scenario where the player has say with the No trade clause.

Watson is reportedly a big fan of Robert Saleh.

Miami and San Francisco both have former colleagues of Nick Caserio (Brian Flores and Adam Peters) in high places. Plus each has a young quarterback they can offer in return.

For Watson, San Francisco has the additional appeal of Kyle Shanahan's system.

1 minute ago, J.B. said:

That’s all I can think of off the top of my head. Also the RG3 trade was pretty bad. You have an example of one that worked out?

Jay Cutler trade was two firsts and two seconds plus something else, if I remember correctly.

That's an example of another quarterback trade, but not one that worked out.

1 minute ago, J.B. said:

I’m sure they do.

but they just lost their negotiating leverage when Watson went public. You can’t have a disgruntled face of the franchise. So they now almost certainly must trade him. 

There'll be enough teams interested  that they just might get it. Don't think it'll be from us though.

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Remember Deems Maye?  He was playing with the Chargers and was injured when they were in the Super Bowl in Miami. I spoke to him in the spring following that game on the golf course at Uwharrie Point.  He went to the game, and was partying at Marino's house--he said he had never met him and was a bit in awe of him--then he said he'd never been around a person with a stronger case of narcissism and entitlement. 

My sister's a big fan because of his work with autism. Years back, he sent her an autographed football to raffle off for a fundraiser.

Kudos for all that but yeah, he's still a dick.

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yep

Early in his career there were numerous times we would have a drive to tie or go ahead just to watch a porous D give it away

 

Maybe if we're talking year three or four.

His first couple of years, I remember him coming out and giving jaw dropping performances in the first half then fading in the second.

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Yes, he has a rep for being a dick--even in his own family--but he gets Green Bay to the playoffs.  Reminds me of the Marino swagger--I hated that guy.

I remember reading about a player who idolized Marino growing up. Then he got to the NFL, got to play against Marino, saw how he acted on the field and got over it.

1 minute ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I don’t either but it is a good question. He has a year of NFL learning behind One of the best to ever do it which is beneficial for a project like he is. He is obviously very talented physically but many people knew he would take a year or two to fine tune his game. If he moved and sat for one year behind 2 gloves it could be intriguing 

When he was picked at number 26, plenty of people questioned whether he was even worth that.

I just don't see a year of practicing and sitting on the bench as adding enough value to make him worth a pick 18 spots higher.

I don't really think I'd use the #8 pick on Jordan Love even if he were still in college.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Remember "ties" rotate each round. So they shuffle picks. That is actually why tying kind of sucks in the draft order.

I remember, but the last time I checked the draft order we had pick 40.

4 minutes ago, BrianS said:

All props to Voth for digging that up, but trailing at the half is VERY different than being within one score, with the ball, in the fourth.  This year we lost 8 games by one score or less.  I'm pretty sure we had the ball in the fourth with a chance in all eight.

Those 35 games Voth is talking about, we have no idea how those games played out in the fourth.  Ok, we were trailing at the half.  Did we ever get within one score or were they blowouts?

We only had three not close losses this year.  Two of them were to the guys currently waiting to play in the Super Bowl . . . the second of which was tied at the half.  We also had a close loss to KC this year . . . a game we were leading at half time.

Not sure exactly what Voth was trying to do there.  Seems a little "spin-ish" to me.

I don't actually think he's trying to spin anything.

He's basically just pointing out that we're not very good, and haven't been for a while longer than just this past year.

8 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

That's not knocking Cam, he's just simply pointing out a stat.

That said, I don't put nearly as much emphasis on "4th quarter comebacks" nor wins when it come to QB evaluation as many do.

Same.

Fourth quarter comeback means you were losing after the first three.

It's exciting to watch and all but I'd rather see us be consistent for an entire 60 minutes.

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's easy to spend other people's draft picks, Bill.

When did we get the 39th pick?

Just now, thefuzz said:

The asking price is going to scare the pants offa me...and I'm not so sure that I don't do it.

1st and a player...not interested in two 1's.

My sense is that a whole lot of people are gonna blow their load thinking about this and it's not even gonna come close to happening.

1 minute ago, thefuzz said:

OOOF.

Yeah, seriously.

I knew we were bad, but ouch.

So now you have a head coach that you hired in order to appease a star player but that star player still wants to be traded.

Aaahhh, the Texans...

5 minutes ago, NAS said:

I love that he waited until they hired their head coach. LMAO

Reports are saying he made the request weeks ago but the news is only coming out now

Voth...

Also when trailing at the half...

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

my biggest fear.

We don't make a move for Watson/Stafford.

Then, and some mocks show it, Trevor, Fields, Wilson and Lance all go before #8. 

Matt Rhule drafts Mac at #8 after getting to know him at the Senior Bowl so well. 

Jones is someone he unsuccessfully tried to recruit to Baylor so he was already somewhat aware of him.

I don't know that I see us taking him at pick eight, though I acknowledge it is a possibility. Taking him after a trade down is also possible.

I'd say a lot depends on Caserio.

They seem to have pretty much handed him the keys, so if he's as good as they think, who knows?

If he's not? Well, at least it should be entertaining to us non-Texans fans.

"The thing you see about Mac right off the bat, he’s a gamer. He’s got a great presence about him. He loves the moment, loves the competition. So there’s not much doubt that he has that quarterback swagger that you can feel when you’re on the field."

- Rhule talking about Mac Jones (The Athletic)

4 minutes ago, Shocker said:

65?  Wow

Yeah, and a pretty interesting life story from what I've read.

As mentioned, wasn't really on anybody's radar before this but he's getting endorsements from all over the place, most prominently from Reid.

Could turn out to be a good choice. We'll see.

1 minute ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

 Watson gone. 

From the Texans or from us?

They're certainly bending over backwards to try and please him. Culley wasn't really on anybody's head coaching radar prior to this.