Mr. Scot

28 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

 

Yeah, I thought that was kinda odd

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's inexcusable for them not to get that issue addressed during the game.

Yeah, that was pure bullsh-t.

They did at least get him before game's end though, and at a crucial time.

If they were ever gonna flag him, that was the time to Day it.

Re: Marshall

The guy who pushed the team to draft him got (deservedly) fired in the middle of his second season as OC. Then the guy who hired and fired him got fired, so in a way he's "orphaned" as a Panther.

He's got talent, and great physical traits. Those things alone don't make a great player though, and Marshall has struggled to put it together.

My biggest question is whether or not Shawn Jefferson can bridge the gap between what he is and what they think he could be.

My guess? He'll play out the season and be allowed to seek work elsewhere next year.

But we'll see.

This'll be something to watch.

17 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

What we need is whoever scouted the Steelers WRs over the years to throw us a bone 

He's technically still with them, but in a lesser role.

Reported to be good friends with David Tepper though.

Not sure what to make of this game.

The Eagles didn't look as good as last year in Week 1, and the Vikings are still hard to get a read on. They've got a load a talent though.

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

But he hasn't been a highly sought after asset once he was waived. He was picked up by the Pats, cut, then cleared waivers again. That's got nothing to do with our coaching change. That's the NFL saying he ain't got it. Fitts traded up to get him. It was also a panic pick. Fitts swung and missed. 

He wasn't cut, actually still isn't.

That story's still playing out...in very weird ways 

2 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

and i thought our hot mic was bad....

 

Yeah, saw that

6 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

The word that comes to mind for our offense right now is "Rhythm".

The rhythm is a work in progress between QBs and WRs. Bryce isn't a grip it and rip it QB like Cam was with a howitzer for an arm who can get the ball into the receivers hand in an instant. Bryce is more cerebral and relies on his knowledge of the playbook and brain to make up for the physical limitations. The NFL Game moves faster than college but I don't think it's too fast for him, he just has to adjust and get used to it. IF he and the receivers get into rhythm and on the same page we're going to see some good stuff. It's going to take some time though. 

Agree on all that.

I'd add that size notwithstanding, Young is a damn near ideal fit for a WCO style attack.

2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Not too early. We know for a fact this group won't be set for next year. The only question is can Mingo develop into a 1 and TMJ a 2. Hopefully one of those 2 happen

I'd say it is.

That said, we do have to factor in the coaching changes.

Just now, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I'm projecting Fitt's draft history to this class. I do hope that we hit on difference makers in this draft but history tells us it's not likely to happen. Our team is devoid of talent outside of a few players. We've had way more misses than hits that's all I'm saying. 

We're not devoid of talent at all.

We're in year one of a rebuild where we've shifted from drafting for a college type 3-3-5 where the DC wanted small players up front to an NFL prototype 3-4 that needs massive guys up front.

On offense, we're moving to a Reid style WCO (with some Sean McVay influences via our OC) from.an offense that was basically a mishmash spearheaded by a nimrod with no clear plan other than to throw players together and see what worked.

Hell, we got lucky on the defensive side at least in that our arguably best player is better tuned to what we're doing now than the role he was shoehorned into before.

3 minutes ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

We need to accept that the 2022 QB draft class was crap and MC is not good. Everyone was reaching for a QB even Pittsburgh who took Pickett in the first round. If Tennessee thought Willis had potential then why did they draft Levis this year? The fact that our new staff moved on from MC shows that he wasn't worth it, they came in with unbiased opinion. We as the fanbase wanted a QB so bad that we fooled ourselves into believing MC had untapped potential. We need a WR so bad, we believe that TMJ just needs a good QB to be good. 

That may be, but it's not the GM's fault.

2 hours ago, joemac said:

I think thats kinda like the Point Guard mentality that people say Bryce plays with. 

Basic Walsh style WCO as opposed to Coryell style longball passing....

2 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

That's not entirely true. MC cost us a 3rd and 4th and he's already been cut. 

That's a consequence of the coaching change, though.

46 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You don’t trust a player’s release time? Their rating under pressure? Even 40 time/catch radius can be considered a statistic. It’s too broad of a category to completely ignore. Picking only on upside can be more dangerous than only on stats. It’s take a combination of info IMO. For example if a players leads the NCAA in sacks and plays in a tough division I’m definitely looking at that player. Game is the most important though IMO.

To me it's just overblown.

I'd put it this way. Is a guy who runs a 4.4 really all that different in game speed to a guy who runs a 4.6?

Every year we ooh and ahh about the fastest guys at the combine but how many of those guys actually wind up having memorable pro careers?

I know it's "a game of inches" and all but it isn't always the guys who put up the stats that become the best players.

3 hours ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Social media is a scourge on this earth

Used to be if you were a dumbsh-t, maybe a dozen people at most knew about it.

These days you can let the entire world know you're stupid

3 hours ago, Evil Hurney said:

That escalated quickly.

Might as well get Zavala moved over to the left side with his boy so he can start gelling.

Latest word is they're gonna keep him on the right...at least until Corbett gets back

10 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It's too broad of a category to ignore.  Like I said rating under pressure, catchable ball %, completion %, release time the list can go on and on.  It's definitely something they look at plus game tape (most important to me) and ceiling all get thrown in there.  There are definitely misleading stats (Zappe comes to mind) when it's lesser competition or different offenses (Corral) can make them appear better so it's only a portion of the tape, but the top picks for QBs generally have great stats to back their tapes unless it's purely a potential picks (AR and Allen).  

Given the high variance in level of competition at the college level, it's really hard for me to trust college stats much at all.

We don't really know yet how our current corps is going to finish or how the college crop will end up looking.

Definitely too early...

1 hour ago, Mother Grabber said:

gas prices are cheaper in Ohio. that’s about it.

Couches are more flammable (at least on Saturdays)

1 hour ago, CarolinaRideorDie said:

I'm judging Fitt on his previous draft classes too. This is his 3rd draft for the Panthers, we've given Hurney crap for his draft history outside of 1st round draft picks, why can't we judge Fitt's draft history?

After one game?

Hell, it's still too early to truly judge last year's class still yet. And that's not even factoring in the that the coaching changes mean we're looking for players to fit different systems.

24 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

https://x.com/sheena_marie3/status/1702352627143503977?s=46&t=LQU3yEizU6WVOcNoJTNyOw
 

That'll change in about four weeks.

Staley looked like a boy wonder for about a season but the carriage turned back into a pumpkin real quick.

2 hours ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Probably not.

Working on it 🫥