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Mr. Scot

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  1. 5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

    Yeah and it seems way too early to be talking about this with 2nd year Rhule and 1st year Fitts. I get Teddy didn’t work out, but he wasn’t a complete disaster... He just wasn’t worth $20 million and should not be a solidified starter on any team, but that was unknown until someone gave him a chance. My main concern is not having a Plan B this year, (seems a little too similar to their mistake last year) but they sure as hell know a lot more about building a NFL team than I do.

    I can't blame Matt Rhule for too much last year knowing who he had to work with.

    I've said before that I see this as Year One of the rebuild.

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  2. 14 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

    I agree with Mr Scott on this one. As an owner you can give your input and sit in with your guys while they are drafting to see how/why they are making the decisions they are making. However it’s ultimately their decisions. If they keep making bad ones you don’t like, then you have the wrong guys on your staff and it’s time to make some decisions...

    It's kinda like if you were an accountant having a house built by professional builders, but you don't think they're doing a very good job.

    If you fire those builders and look around for better ones, that's smart.

    If you fire those builders and then decide you're going to build the house yourself, you're an idiot.

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  3. 3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    I'm just talking about reality. If you keep failing at a core component of the job at some point someone higher than you gets involved, either to try to help fix the issue or by determining you're the issue. If you can't find a franchise QB in today's NFL you aren't going to consistently compete. Tepper knows that. He's let them identify the QB's of their choosing this far, but if Darnold flops something significant is going to change in the process of identifying the next guy.

    And if that something is firing the guys who are doing the job and getting somebody new, that's fine.

    If the something is making those decisions himself? That's a disaster waiting to happen.

  4. 7 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

    football knowledge isn't the same as setting the direction for a organization.

    That's the kind of dumbsh-t semantics argument I expect from somebody like Sizzlebuzz.

    Football decisions should be made by football people for football reasons.

  5. 2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    If Darnold turns out the way I think, Rhule and company might be hoping it happens at some point because it can't keep being their fault they strike out on QBs. 

    You have, as long as I've seen you post on here, been dead set against owner interference.

    Are you now in favor of it if it gets the player you want?

    (or more specifically, gets us away from the player you didn't want)

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  6. 2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

    lol

    You are so literal about everything.

    If some GM that you aren't sure about, for example Hurney, is about to go off and sell the farm for somebody.  You stop it.  

    You might fire him later, but there is nothing wrong with pulling rank.

     

    If you're the guy with the least amount of football knowledge in the room, telling the guys who know better than you what to do is stupid.

  7. 1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    Doesn't take much evaluation to look at a guy like Deshaun Watson and say "Hey, that guy's pretty good. Let's go get him." Draft prospects are a very different ballgame. Hell, everyone sucks at evaluating them. Some just suck worse than others.

    It's not as simple as just saying "let's go get him". You also have to decide what resources you're willing to give up to do so.

    If the football people don't think it's worth it, do you want the owner to override them?

  8. 2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

    If we miss on Teddy and Sam, somebody is going to be upset.

    Also it isn't always about evaluating players.  It can be setting a direction.  You can have an owner who forces a front office to think short term or in some cases long term.

    Would we have been better not signing Teddy last year?  Did we make moves indictive last year of a team on a long term plan? no

    There is nothing wrong with a owner stepping in and preventing a GM or coach from thinking too short term and sabotaging the future.

    If you are a GM that might be on the hot seat what incentive do have to think long term.  You try to win now to save your job, if that doesn't work then you leave your replacement with less resources so it is harder for him to do a better job than you.

    Per various reports, Tepper asks questions about the process and tries to make sure everybody is on the same page.

    Those things are fine.

    Overriding the people that you hired to do the job is not.

  9. 1 minute ago, AU-panther said:

    If Darnold doesn't work out we might want the owner to start meddling a little bit.

    No, we wouldn't.

    Tepper doesn't know how to evaluate football players, and he himself admits that.

    If Rhule and Fitterer don't work out, then he can fire them and get somebody else, but stepping in himself would be a dumbass move worthy of Jerry Jones or Dan Snyder.

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  10. 6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

    I don't think that was gonna be the case had all those allegations hadn't surfaced on Deshaun Watson.

    I do.

    Rhule specifically stated in his interview with Rich Eisen that Tepper "leaves the football stuff" to he and Scott Fitterer. Darin Gantt also confirmed in his draft war room article that while Tepper asks questions about the process, he doesn't offer input on what players they should get.

    Likewise, in the article that chronicled the pursuit of Sam Darnold, the only mention of Watson was that the Panthers were interested but weren't actively pursuing him because the Texans weren't willing to trade him.

    From what I've read, a whole bunch of people got excited about something that was never going to happen.

    I'd say that's the same thing that's going to happen with Rodgers.

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  11. 1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

    Yeah... right. 

    Canfora's just throwing darts at the map and making clickbait with it now.

    I actually looked up LaCanfora's article to see what his rationale for connecting Rodgers to the Panthers was.

    You guessed it: David Tepper

    The same dumbass rationale that was used to predict we'd draft Justin Fields and "pay any price" for Deshaun Watson.

    Oy 🙄

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  12. 12 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

    Is that why the Chiefs only beat us by 2 points last season?

    The chiefs are only better than the Panthers at maybe 3 positions. Safety, TE, and Kicker.

    I was going to give the chiefs the advantage on the offensive line but I can’t since Mike Remmers is still on their roster.

    That team that beat the Chiefs in the Super Bowl also beat us twice, once by 14 points and once by 23 points.

    We're far from one player away from being better than that team.

  13. 23 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

    He was on a way better team than ours and just barely beat us last year. 

    If he had our o-line, he'd still be injured. If he had our defense he'd still be trying to catch up. 

    From last season, we've still got bigger issues to fix. 

    Honestly, it'd either be CB from Miami Xavien Howard or Green Bay LT David Bakhtiari if he hadn't messed up his knee last season.

    It's kind of a flawed question.

    It's been asked more than once before, and the answer is always the same, whoever the best quarterback in the league is at that time.

    Framing it as the best non-quarterback player makes for a better discussion.

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  14. 7 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

    If you find yourself sitting in the Carolina Panthers QB room, you SHOULD be nervous.

    I’m not sure another team has a QB room that from top to bottom could be shuffled at random and be close to the actual opening day roster?

    Disagree. Darnold is the clear starter and head and shoulders above anyone else.

    Beyond Darnold though, pretty much everyone else is easily replaceable.

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  15. Albert Breer on what the Panthers get with Morgan (MMQB)

    Dan Morgan’s a good get for new Panthers GM Scott Fitterer. The ex-Carolina All-Pro linebacker’s returning to Charlotte as the team’s assistant GM, and all you need to see on him as a scout is how sorry Bills GM Brandon Beane, Morgan’s boss the last three years in Buffalo, is to see him go. “Dan was everything we could’ve asked for,” Beane said over the phone on Sunday night. Beane worked in Carolina when Morgan was a player, and got to know him well on the scouting trail before hiring him in May 2018. “He’s the same guy he was as a player, a grinder, always working, super competitive. He fit in right away with us. And he got here Year 2 with [assistant GM] Joe [Schoen] and I. He meshed well with everyone immediately. Sometimes you bring a guy in like that and there’s some jealously, some tensions, some issues. He did a great job of knocking that stuff down right away, and I think that was the guy he was. We hate to lose him, but he’ll get his chance to be a GM soon, I’m sure of that.” What Morgan brought the Bills and Seahawks (he and Fitterer worked together in Seattle) is just what he’ll add to Carolina—he came up the same way a lot of scouts did, doing things like picking up guys at the airport, but also has the perspective of a former player that’s rare in scouting (more ex-players coach than scout, by a large margin). One way that manifested for the Bills was in how he could quickly figure out scheme on tape, and easily translate a guy’s play, relative to his responsibilities, within a system. And where for most of his career, he’d done that exclusively on the pro scouting side, in Buffalo he started doing a lot more college scouting too. So he’s thoroughly prepared for the next step.

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