Mr. Scot

Right play call and good decision by Tolbert

Going for it here is the right call.

http://imgur.com/gallery/yGJKk

 

 

Found on imgur. Posted it on my Bills board.  Can't make new threads.  One ya'll oughta make a new thread with this.  It's amazingly well done.

 

Some of those are pretty cool.

 

Others, meh.

Rule violations? jeezus...

In College you recruit the players you want.

In the Pros you draft the players you want and suppliment it through FA.

Either way, you've got to get them to play for you.

USC did legitimately get the NCAA backhand. Speculation that Oregon will too.

Detractors of Carroll and Chip Kelly will say that's why they headed to the NFL. Don't know that there's any validity to that. To be honest, don't really care.

Seems like half the programs in the NCAA have something funky going on these days.

One thing for sure in College, recruiting is key. The Trojans won 3, then 2 games the 2 years previous to Carroll taking the reins at USC. Players came because they were recruited and wanted to play for Carroll, and play they did.

Same as NFL players respond to him on Sundays.

This is what we Panthers need, someone they want to play for.

Rule violations help too

To be fair though, i guess that could also be said in the pros (right, Mr Belichick?)

People sometimes compare NFL Free Agency to college recruiting. I'm on the fence as to whether or not that's a good parallel. Yeah, they're both situations where you're trying to sell your program, but in college there's no discussion of how much you're gonna be paid.

(officially)

While I'm at it, worth mentioning that when Steve Spurrier announced his intention to coach in the NFL, the Panthers reportedly did interview him for their then vacant head coaching spot.

Although I don't know that it was ever discussed in public, some team sources said privately that the Spurrier interview was a disaster on par with the Hindenburg

outstanding post mr. scot. i was pondering constructing a similar data set while at work, but you've blown this out of the water and i have nothing to add.

i am a little surprised at how evenly split the head coaches are between offensive and defensive philosophy... and what would be really interesting to me is to see how the offenses of defensive head coaches look versus the defenses of offensive head coaches. i wonder if you'd find any sort of correlation.

Hard to say. One thing I know for sure though: You need a strong coach on the opposite side of the ball to be at your best.

I'm reminded though of a few years back when a Brian Billick coached Ravens squad was set to face off against a Colts team with Tony Dungy at the helm. Billick was quoted as saying that the football gods must have had a really twisted sense of humor to give him that Ravens defense and Tony Dungy that Peyton Manning led offense

Wow, A lot of work on the data.

Just responding to where some opinion was offered.

As far as Pete Carroll is concerned previous to his outstanding current work with the Seahawks he had 20 years of College coaching experience. His work as a College Coach stands on it's own and makes pale the vast majority of other Coaches to step on a College sideline, his is a career that stands on its own merit. As a Head Coach of the Trojans for 9 years his stats were unprecedented:

But previous to those 9 years at USC as noted he had 4 years as a Head Coach in the NFL where 2 of the 4 years his teams made the Playoffs. Never understood people dismissing his early times as a HC in the NFL as a failure or needing his image rebuilt.

Can you imagine the Panthers making the Playoffs at a 50% rate? We can only dream.

Pete Carroll has flourished wherever he's coached and as his current run in Seattle confirms, at age 62 he will continue to do so.

Pro experience, College Coaching experience especially at the HC position as well as Coordinator work at the Pro Level all contribute to a successful, well rounded NFL head Coach.

With the next hire however I hope the Panthers focus equally on the man and the dynamic he will bring to the Locker Room and to the sidelines and not just some treadmill approach or the latest hot coordinator from a successful NFL Playoff team.

The Panthers need a leader, a man with passion and someone the Players will follow into battle Game day.

Pray they make the right choice.

I remember the talk about Carroll back in the day. It was all pretty much 'great coordinator, lousy head coach'. Part of me has a morbid curiosity about what would happen if Rivera took a college HC position.

Wish I could remember who said it, but I remember the day the news broke that Carroll had taken the USC job, there was someone on sports radio predicting he'd be a miserable failure. 'College coaching isn't like NFL coaching' he said. A true statement, but something tells me he'd like to that that opinion back

no one made you push the play button...I think you secretly like nasty stuff like that.

Like? Eeeeehhh no.

Get drawn into in the "can't stop staring at the train wreck" fashion? Far too often

In any case, I was just giving Floppin a hard time (which I think he understood).

https://vine.co/v/h1wKhwarj1d

So is this video about her masturbating on a wrecking ball or something?

What exactly do you call that? Twrecking?

 

Ya know, ya can't 'unsee' stuff...

 

I really wish people would ponder that fact for a few moments when they post things on here

 

 

Am I the only one who doesn't get this commercial?

 

I might just have to get one of these...

 

 

Liked this too: Crimson Causality

What I thought of when I saw this thread title...

 

I didn't watch the clip because I was afraid I'd see them die

And we're the second worst offense, by that logic.

 

Not logic.  Rankings, based on week one performance.

 

Week one is all too often an illusion.  Prior seasons will tell you that.

 

hence why I say we don't know as much as we might think we do just yet.

 

Only Jacksonville scored fewer points than we did.  Jacksonville.

 

I suppose you can say that the Seahawks are the best defense in the league by far, but I think this is also a pretty big commentary on the state of our offense.

 

Technically, they are the second best in the league at this point.

 

i have grown tired of watching this team play not to lose. I'm tired of broken promises of an aggressive offense and defense. for the first time since the Panthers have been a team I'm beginning to start to question why I even bother :/

please find players and coaches that play to win.

scratch that. let's get players and coaches that play to dominate.

 

You didn't see an aggressive defense yesterday?

I can fix the offense in two steps

1. Fire Shula

2. Hire someone competent at their job.

The way Shula uses Cam, is like giving someone a Lamborghini and letting him drive it like a Toyota Corrola.

Meanwhile Rivera is 2-13 in games decided by a touchdown or less. To me that's a damning statistic, something needs to change. Whether thats winning close games, or cleaning house.

 

Because it's easy to find a competent OC who just happens to be available in week two of the season, right?

 

And hey, installing a whole new system in mid-season after you spent an entire training camp and offseason learning this one?  No problem!

 

It's simple.  Heck, I do it in Madden all the time.  That's just like the real world, right?

can you say a team that only scores seven points played well? that's what i'm having a hard time with. production is what matters. the offense simply just didn't produce. couldn't even get the ball into field goal range. i'm no fan of FGs, but at least it's points.

 

 

I can say they probably would have had 14 against a good defense, if not for...

 

Did we "play well"?  We didn't play poorly as a whole, our defense played pretty well, but our offense scored 7 points and had a turnover.  They failed to score enough points to win.  They did not play well.  You can't win in this league if you score 7 points against most teams.

 

I'm not saying that we should fire Rivera right now, nor bench our players.  But I am concerned because this is a pattern with this team and these coaches, so I'm worried about next week, and the weeks after.

 

For a season opener?  Yeah, I'd say so.  Week one is always sloppy for most teams, and we definitely had our bad moments (drops, dump mistakes, penalties, etc) but we were indeed in it up to the end.  Like I said, in a season opener, I'll take that over getting blown out anyday.

 

 

you have to be able to get at least 14 points on the board. if you can't, you're doing something wrong.

 

They did.  They fumbled.  They dropped.  They made mistakes.  But again, I expect that in week one.

 

Bottom line for me: I'm not ready to project an entire season of failure from a week one loss, and a close one at that.

 

If the team still hasn't won by week four or five, or the mistakes continue and/or get worse, then we can talk.

Why yes, I'm happy just losing to good teams.  It gives me a warm fuzzy feeling inside.  Effort is what matters in the sport, anyway.  Everyone is a winner.  The entire NFCS gets a nice little trophy regardless of where they finish.

 

Alternatively, we can see the opportunities we had to take control of a game and beat that Super Bowl contender into the ground in the first half, that we failed to do.  We lacked the killer instinct, and I think that comes from the top.

 

I'm not happy with losing to anyone.

 

I am less angry when we play well overall against a very good team.

 

And I am never ready to panic and bench/cut/fire everybody after only one game.

 

 

My parrots do that.

Good chance DE number five will be inactive on game days.

I have a question...why would you put someone who is a fa after this year on ir for a hamstring?

Better than cutting him completely.

Don't see there being a whole lot of teams going after him.

So...

QB: Cam Newton, Derek Anderson

RB: Deangelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart (PUP), Kenjon Barner, Armond Smith

FB: Mike Tolbert, Richie Brockel

TE: Greg Olsen, Ben Hartsock, Brandon Williams

WR: Steve Smith, Brandon Lafell, Ted Ginn, Dominik Hixon, Armanti Edwards

OL: Jordan Gross, Amini Silatolu, Ryan Kalil, Travelle Wharton, Byron Bell, Garry Williams, Brian Folkerts, Jeff Byers, Nate Chandler, Chris Scott

DE: Charles Johnson, Greg Hardy, Frank Alexander, Wes Horton, Mario Addison

DT: Star Lotulelei, Dwan Edwards, Kawann Short, Colin Cole

LB: Luke Kuechly, Thomas Davis, Jon Beason, AJ Klein, Jordan Senn, Chase Blackburn

CB: Josh Norman, Josh Thomas, Captain Munnerlyn, DJ Moore, Melvin White, James Dockery

S: Charles Godfrey, Mike Mitchell, Colin Jones, Haruki Nakamura

K: Graham Gano

P: Brad Nortman

LS: JJ Jansen

Your 2013 Carolina Panthers 53 man roster

For the moment...