Mr. Scot

2 minutes ago, exactlyzack said:

Depending on who the full back, you could use him to throw Young across the goal line

I'd probably give that job to Ekwonu or Bozeman.

2 minutes ago, Carolina Disaster said:

He definitely is no Vick but he is a better athlete than he gets credit for.  He wasn't asked to run at OSU.  He didn't need to until the Georgia game.  He isn't going to blow the doors off like Vick, Lamar, etc but he is able to extend plays when needed.  

To be fair, that describes a pretty good number of quarterbacks in the league right now.

From what I've read, the conditions are that the Niners pick has to be higher and Gonzalez has to meet some kind of performance requirement (unknown, but could be as simple as being on their roster for the 25 season)

Are they seriously asking this?

2 minutes ago, Jackie Lee said:

If you're picking between Bryce and Stroud, Stroud has more physical upside. I'm not trying a QB sneak with Bryce for instance

Young would have an easier time hiding behind a fullback though

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

I think that was when we were picking at 9 and it was potentially AR vs Levis. I'm guessing most of the AR guys are Stroud guys now that we've moved up. 

Is Stroud really that great an athlete though?

Based on what I've seen, I don't really think anybody is mistaking him for Michael Vick

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think it's just that there are two really good, much more polished QBs available. Stroud and Young aren't Gabbert and Locker.

There is a certain physical element to that debate, but it's not about athleticism. It's about durability.

Young is as good a quarterback as I've seen in a long time. Stroud has the intelligence, accuracy and processing ability that I look for too, though.

The difference id I don't feel like I'd be holding my breath every time Stroud took a hit.

16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Richardson's talent level is off the charts but drafting him ahead of Young or Stroud would take gigantic balls and there's a good chance it goes wrong. Then again, if he has what it takes and develops... oh wee mayne. You could be passing on a great one.

I'm honestly glad it's not my call. I can fully understand the arguments for and against all of these guys. I think Young is the best QB right now. I think Stroud is probably the safest pick. Richardson is the grand slam or embarrassing strikeout. I honestly can't see that one going any other way.

In the past, we've had a fairly vocal crowd supporting the idea of "take the superior athlete and teach him how to quarterback" (maybe because people were big fans of Cam Newton) but it feels like that crowd has either lost some members or simply grown silent.

I've always been in the "take the guy with the superior quarterbacking skills regardless of whether he's the best athlete" camp myself. Most signs seem to point to the Panthers going that route with their QB pick, so I'm certainly not complaining.

There are definitely some sports fans who'd rather lose an exciting game than win a slow and steady one. That's the bunch that continuously calls on the team to make big moves and swing for the fences every time. And yes, that might be a lot of fun to watch...

...but it's not always the smart play.

1 minute ago, Soul Rebel said:

It's so crazy to imagine it any other way. 

Owner - pays the bills and has input in decisions, but does not decide per se

GM - key decision maker. walks the tightrope between coaching/players/personnel (Reich, coordinators, players), the directors and behind the scenes guys (Morgan, Suleimann, etc.) and the Owner

HC - runs the on-field product and runs up to the GM his vision/requests/design needs. Works hand-in-hand with GM and has input into decisions.

In the vast majority of successful NFL franchises, this is exactly how it works.

And yeah, it does sound like Tepper wound up eating a healthy dose of humble pie after his first few years in the league.

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

a sizeable Young contingent

Quoting for the sheer irony of it

13 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Even if we know who we want there's zero competitive advantage to letting that be known right now and the NFL would greatly prefer to keep some intrigue to the #1 overall pick for viewership.

I honestly think they're telling the truth.

This is an extremely careful bunch. They're not going to jump to conclusions. The eise thing is to wring every ounce of information they can out of the process before coming down on a final decision.

I'd guess they have leanings (Breer mentioned that) but the final decision is yet to come.

And I've got no issue with that. It's a smart way to go.

From the latest MMQB (Link)

The Panthers’ traveling party does have one more stop on its quarterbacking tour, and that’ll happen with owners David and Nicole Tepper leading a group from Phoenix to Gainesvlle on Wednesday. I’d expect, like they did for the other three pro days, for the Teppers, GM Scott Fitterer, coach Frank Reich, and the rest of them to have dinner with Richardson on Wednesday night ahead of his throwing session Friday at UF.

And, honestly, I think this is part of the benefit you get in doing the deal to move up early if you’re the Panthers. There’s no hiding your intentions. You just send everyone and get everyone’s opinion on each of the quarterbacks—with the Teppers bringing a different perspective to the conversation than, say, Fitterer or Reich would.

This is a massive decision for the franchise, the kind where a GM and coach get their job security tethered to the fortunes of a single player. So this, in my mind, is how it should look. All hands on deck.

While we’re here, I would say the consensus I’ve gotten from teams, and guys who were on the ground at the pro days, is it looks like Young and Stroud are, for now, on one tier, with Levis and Richardson, who don’t have the tape that the other two do and need more work mechanically, on another.

“In my opinion, it’s a real tough choice between Bryce and C.J.,” says one coach who was at all three pro days. “They’re both outstanding. If you’re concerned about size, C.J.’s probably a safer pick? And Will looked fine, [but] I think he’s a notch or two below the others. … The other two are more natural throwers and have put better stuff on tape.”

“Stroud’s personality came out more interacting with his teammates, and his natural arm strength was tremendous,” says another coach. “Young’s performance was as good as it gets, and he’s such a natural in front of everyone. His accuracy, anticipation, along with throwing catchable balls, as good as it gets.”

1 hour ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

I don´t think they are going to trade it away. I am sure they are set on their guy. 

Sheena Quick says they don't.

With one pro day and all four prospect visits yet to come, she's probably right.

1 hour ago, bythenbrs said:

Unobtainium...

That movie was absolute rhino sh-t 

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope this means that we're completely sold on "our guy" and we've made our choice.

I get the feeling it more likely means nobody (specifically the Texans) is offering much of anything.

There has yet to be any market for him whatsoever.

He's trying to create one.

Birthday was late last week so Lady Cowboy Fan took Friday off and we made a long weekend of it.

Did I miss anything?

8 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Bryce does well when things break down, CJ doesn't let things break down.

To be fair, that's an awfully tough thing to do at the NFL level.

7 minutes ago, bleys said:

Regardless, we can all agree that’s a weird opinion, right?

Huddlers all agreeing on just about anything is relatively rare.

(hell, we had people defending Matt Rhule)

37 minutes ago, csx said:

Burrow smokes a cigar and wears funny things but I've never seen him referred to as a dick or an asshole before. Same with Newton 

It's pretty much the exact opposite going by anything people who know him say. 

Where did that come from anyway,?  Mister Scot generalizations?

History tells us that you not knowing something has never been a sign of it not being true (,just the opposite, more often than not) 

Regardless, it's my opinion.

19 minutes ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Prayers up for Moreau. #FugCancer

Re: Hopkins

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I thought the asst strength went to nebraska and the head coach scott fellow remained, but ....... i dont see him on the staff page. Odd to see them wait this long.

I dont see the training staff guys either...... 

Trainer is listed on the staff page. That page hasn't been updated last I looked though.

(special forces guy wasn't listed yet)

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Do we have any clue about the strength staff or training crew?? They cannot be keeping the rhule strength staff........ after the A+ training staff....I see them staying. Odd to see this, but Im a nut about it.....just thought for sure frank would bring in his own strength staff and maybe a few others to help. 

Rhule's S&C staff followed him to Nebraska, I think.

Haven't seen Jack about new guys.