Khyber53

I often wonder what happened to Jordan Carstens. Hated that his career got cut short due to kidney problems. That was one country strong guy and he could do some damage from the DT position. I think he'd have had an outstanding career otherwise.

7 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Ricky Manning Jr.

He was a huge part of our first Super Bowl runs but his career quickly fizzled out after they changed how illegal contact is called.

Wasn't his illegal  contact issue that he was accused of assaulting some guy late night at a Denny's restaurant and breaking the man's laptop in 2006? Oh and getting into a fight with two male cheerleaders outside a bar in 2002.

That kind of illegal contact can just ruin a career.

(Sad, too, because he was a heck of a player for a while there. Basically won us that game in Philly before the Super Bowl).

Meatballs stroganov. Cooked in a crock pot with a mushroom and cream sauce. (Don't worry about noodles or anything). 

The only problem is there's never any leftovers to bring home.

Sometimes it's not how they say things but what they say, what the subject of their narrative is.

What impressed me there about Trey Lance (and I hadn't been thinking of him as a good choice until now) is how quickly he deflected the praise not just to one teammate, but to others who were in supporting roles. His own accomplishments didn't seem to be on his verbal radar. In this day of self-promotion and branding, it's pretty darned refreshing.

He came off not just as an intelligent guy, but a thoughtful one, too. He seemed aware that he was part of something and not that there was a team hanging onto the hem of his cape.

Teams like KC are winning big right now because it is a team performance. Not to say Mahomes isn't amazingly skilled (because he certainly is), but there is definitely a feel that this a team from the coaching staff down to the special teams players.

Lance seems to be that kind of guy. And it sure sounds like Rhule is that kind of coach. It could be very good to have them both here.

A shining example of being the guy who does the job well over and over again! 

(That's so much nicer than my original statement of "Thanks JJ for being the guy who bends over on fourth down and gives his all for the team.)

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Now do you get it @Khyber53?

Maybe the climate of the world's conversation has gotten to us all. Let's just step back, take a breather and not go back in looking for fights.

That one wasn't very bad at all. Perhaps a bit snarky, but not exactly telling the guy to quit wasting oxygen... yanno?

How about we all just let it go for a bit. We're being way too serious heading into that long, useless stretch between the Super Bowl and the Combine. 

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, I really want a Lombardi, but the best way to get one is to compete year in and year out. The flash in the pan approach hasn't exactly worked out for us.

And really, even the great teams just manage once every few years to make it to the big dance, much less win it. But there they are, swinging away in the main event.

I'm tired of us being the mid-carders only to make it a couple of times to the championship round only to find out they've set us up as a squash match.

3 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Fine. I deleted it. Happy now?

You're a good guy, with excellent takes and a lot of insight. 

1 hour ago, Catsfan69 said:

The difference is 10 wins a year or just having a winning record isn't good enough. 

He needs to win a Superbowl. 

Let's see if he is good enough. 

Let's just give him enough time to do it. It took Andy Reid how many years to win one? And don't forget to add the Eagles years on, too.

Good coaches are competitive year in and year out. I want to see the Lombardi here soon, but it doesn't have to be every year for the coach to keep his job. Building teams that have a shot at it and make a run for it year after year is hard enough to do.

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've pondered that.

There's no promotion from head coach in the NFL. This is it, and at this level taking an underachieving program to moderate success doesn't get you a pat on the back. It gets you the door.

Rhule's in a different world than before, one that's going to ask a lot more of him than the prior ones did.

Seriously hope he's up to it.

3 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

And he may also like those opportunities to build. That's the thing, some people enjoy the path more than the destination. 

Here is a crazy thought, what if he jumps ship in 3-4 years after he builds a 12-14 win team? He is technically as high as he can go in the head coaching ranks....but maybe he finds the building process the most rewarding?

This is all theory, of course. He still has to actually BUILD a winner here. But if that does happen, I am curious to see how he handles sustained success. Can he maintain it? Can he keep the kind of atmosphere he wants after he has been here for 4-6 years?

To be determined(hopefully).

I agree wholeheartedly with both of you. In the end, we will just have to see. I get the feeling he knows what he is doing and a HC gig in the NFL seemed to be where the trajectory of his career was headed. I don't think anyone could get bored with a 12-14 win team, but if he did... well, no one said you couldn't blow up your own winning team and start over just to show that you can do it.

I like Rhule, I like how he is coaching and building here. Will he be the "One" in Carolina? We're just going to have tune in and find out.

Just now, kungfoodude said:

One interesting thing to see is if he is able to sustain success. That is actually something he has never done as a head coach. 

I'm not sure we can say if he's been able to sustain success or not. Seems that as a HC, he has taken dumpster fires, fixed them, made them into winners and then been promoted to the next big gig. What happens after he leaves may not have anything to do with him or what he built.

Still, what you say has some wisdom to it. Can a hard nosed coach sustain a team? Does he transform into something different as the culture transforms? I'd like to think that's the plan, but you are right that we don't have any real info to go on for that yet.

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Nah, it was a long time coming. Sorry, not sorry. He knows what he's doing. It's his always been his entire shtick. 

Nah, man. That was some Tinderbox level poo. You're a moderator. 

They hired Rhule to turn this into a winning franchise. This is how he is doing it. Apparently, this is how he has done it at Baylor and Temple. 

If he gets the same results here, then we have nothing to complain or worry about. This is how he builds a team. Rivera built his differently and folks will have to get accustomed to the new way or move on.

It will take time to get to the prime spot in this arc, but I think we're seeing growth here. This wasn't going to be an overnight fix, although I can't help but think had CMC been healthy, we'd have had four to five more wins over the season.

Give it time.

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

And they NEED to get rid of a lot of them this offseason already.

The Saints salary cap thing is a magical and evil beast that needs to be slain. There has to come a day of reckoning for them eventually, right?

16 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I read another piece on him--team player, great attitude, and we can assume, versatile.  But this may suggest a few things, and I am reading some foggy tea leaves here:

1. We want to address the TE position but we may realize that we probably cannot this year.

2.  We have multiple TE needs, and this guy will compete for a roster spot/special teams role.

3.  We value versatility--and he could be an H-back type that replaces Armah. 

4.  He has pictures of Fits at the Seahawks Christmas party.

 

1. Oh, we could make a big splash in the draft with TE, but we'd need to ride another season with Teddy.

2. True and he probably will, but it is a signal that we're probably done with the Ian Thomas project. (And he should have been good, we all wanted him to be so, but he just never made that leap).

3. Not sure we're looking to replace Armah, but even though I like the guy, not sure he's a top end Full/H-back.

4. Well, there are some pics that are just priceless. And some available for a price. Some available on a lifelong installment plan.

21 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I would rather see them roll was Taysom The Golden Calf of Bristol. I was genuinely looking forward to that future disaster. 

Let's just hope they don't grab someone good in the draft. What they have on the books there should be plenty.

33 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

They went undefeated with Teddy fuggin Bridgewater. 

That may say more about us than them...

I sure hope he does. It'll be good for the rest of the division. He'll revolutionize the Saints like he revolutionized the Bucs. 

17 hours ago, crowntownpanther said:

McCafferey taking issue with David Newton...

 

I'm going to  say that had CMC been healthy this season, we'd probably have gotten five more wins. We'd probably also be talking about how Bridgewater was able to eat opponents alive with the short passing game thanks to CMC.

We have to remember that the offensive plans for the season centered around utilizing CMC to his full potential. Even though Davis was able to come in and serve as a really good RB1, it still wasn't anything like having CMC back there. CMC is a game changing athlete and requires a ton of defensive resources to keep him under some sort of control.

Teddy's short game was good, but with CMC coming out of the backfield, those eight yard pass plays suddenly turn into 12 yard plays, 15 yarders, 65 yarders... The run game increases to the point where the other team has to bring a safety into the box opening up downfield opportunities. A lot of those three and outs become long, scoring drives.

Yeah, the CMC injuries wrecked the season for us.

8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

6-5, 245, listed as a TE here. Do not be surprised if he finds a way to crack this roster. 

It's not like there's anyone really standing between him on the PS and being our first string TE, as things go right now.

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think part of it is seeing how crazy the QB market is. As someone said in another thread, this may be the ultimate sellers market.

I believe you've hit the nail on the head there. Lot of teams with big contracts are going to be just floating things out there, seeing if there's any interest. If something gets traction, they roll with it, if not, they say "Bah, there was never anything to the rumors, he's our guy."

Jets are gonna Jets. Whatever decision they make, it's probably a bad one.

A lot of really wispy rumors float around this time of year. And it seems there's a bumper crop of them out there.

If it were to be true, not sure this wouldn't be a win-win-win situation for all parties involved.

45 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

They said he struggled at the SR Bowl--disappointed during drills--so did Norwell---so maybe his stock dropped.

Grab him in the sixth then or whenever it seems like his time is now.

Honestly, he looks the part. But also, he was part of a national championship o-line that kept a non-mobile QB clean and gave him time to stretch the field with great receivers. It could be he worked better with his regular teammates than he did with some folks he just met, running new plays and using different terminologies. Something tells me you get him on a good team and bring him along at guard, you can get way more than your money's worth.

No sacks allowed in three seasons at Alabama. That's on a top end (championship team) for three years against the best competition in the college. Heck, the SEC is just about a pro league as it is.

On 1/30/2021 at 10:37 AM, Captain Obvious said:

He's so sexy

Totally edited out the part where he pancakes a Sasquatch and redirects a moose around the QB.