Khyber53

It's giving me hope, but I've been disappointed before. We all have. I'm going to cheer them on, doing my part. Can they, finally, do theirs?

It's amazing what people will throw away their good names on.

He's somewhere else now and I'm not going to spend my energy carrying anger about him. Just glad he's somewhere else.

Yeah, and about all their stuff is like that. Great listening. And their videos... just fantastic. Not sure who directs them but they need to be at Sundance.

Let's hope so. I love seeing undrafted players prove themselves to be stars in the making. If there was ever a team to do it on, the Panthers would be it.

No, I had not, nor probably will I. And it's not about defending him, it's about it not really being any of my business. If he did have an affair, that's a terrible thing and something that he'll have to work out with his wife if she chooses to. Will it affect what I think of him? Yeah, probably, but it will also remind me, as has this thread that we've all got feet of clay. But, I also don't worship sports heroes, or even hold them up as much more than regular folks. And he sure isn't the only Panther to have an affair. Let's face it, there are some that have pretty much had a harem spread around the region before. Feet of clay. Feet of clay.

Center is such an important position and one that is way too downplayed. And while this guy is strong, has he got the brains to do the job? A smart center with a high football IQ to boot can make a QB's life much, much easier.

And still, is there any proof that he even had the affair? There's money, but there's also the damage to a multiple decades marriage with kids that could be caused simply because someone lied to their spouse that they'd had an affair with a celebrity. I mean, we seem very, very ready to convict him of doing it on no actual proof. And that ain't right, for him or for anyone.

I may have missed something but did they actually prove that Smitty had an affair with her or not? I mean, like him or not, that actually matters. Just saying.

I love this band, their music is just cinematic. Here's a new release that dropped today. Great lyrics.

Look, I love Shaq and have cheered for him since Day 1. I'd love to see him back but those injuries were all pretty major and they started coming one after another. That's usually the sign for a professional athlete that it's time to turn the page. I think he's been an excellent linebacker throughout his career and when he took to the field beside Luke and TD, he was very much a man among equals there. I think that sadly, it is time for a new page for him, just like those other stalwarts. But please, ask him to come back and retire as a Panther. We'd be honored by him if he did.

His Dad had the same problem a few times in his career. Luckily he and Jake clicked.

Fun take on the first round, including our own.

Great write up. I think we're going to try to keep both of the guys we've gotten from the Vikings on that DE/OLB rotation. I don't think they ever had the chance to get up to speed together. And I really agree with you about Clowney. I really think this room really is going to depend on whether our long-term goal is to continue with 3-4 (I hope not) or go back to 4-3 full time. I'm hoping the safety situation and the LB situation don't end up biting us in the butt. I just don't see where we've gotten better there yet. I hope I'm wrong about this. O-line... just when things are jelling, you find out this might be the last season the group can expect to be together... that's just our history here. Again. Any thoughts on Moose's kid, Moose 3, coming as an undrafted FA WR?

We need a solid returner, which he can do. And that is going to help. But you watch his tape, against good SEC competition and the guy just has it. Just wasn't always on a good team. And then, that bloodline... Loved watching his Dad play the game. If some of that skill and all of that football knowledge came down to him, then there will be a seat for him in the WR room this season. I'll be pulling for him during training camp to make the final roster.

Locker room cancer waiting to happen. That's why he has been shunned.

Third down back in training. We'll lose Dowdle after this season.

Okay, it won't be a team with a first year head coach... too dangerous of a pick. Bad season and he'll be throwing the coach under the bus and suddenly Coach Prime moves to the NFL. No HC or GM wants that action. Okay, it can't be a team on the growth cycle. If they are moving up, they don't need a me first guy while the culture builds. Shifting focus away from team first could kill that growth, as well as HC and GM jobs. No established and steady coach with long term goals is going to invite this spoiled brat, his brother and his Dad into the fold. The potential for locker room cancer and back room dealings for a coaching change are just not going to fly. So, that eliminates just about everyone except for ... Hmmmm.... New York? Nope, Daboll is on the hotseat and has been there. Las Vegas? While Carrol is first year, he has experience in the league and he has handled a lot of his tenure. And if he gets pushed out by Coach Prime in a couple of years, he can slough it off as time to retire. Still, just doesn't seem right. There's really only one place I can see him moving to, where the chaos it invites is welcomed, cultivated and breathed in: Dallas. So, Sanders to the Cowboys. But not until the 5th round.

Looking better along the D-line at this moment. Really needed improvement, sure hope these two young men can be the change we need.

Welcome aboard Nic, hope you shine here man!

I think that most of the draft ups for position 8 or better will have already played out before we get to our pick. Could we trade back into the first round? Maybe...

Sprint to the podium for Tyler Warren and then don't look back. Grab defensive players for the rest of the draft after that. Don't pass up on the best player at his position and one of the best in this draft just to fit some need.

Here's the thing for me: I don't know whether we are going to stay a base 3-4 team or go back to a 4-3 team over the next two years (especially if Evero continues to not work out). That being said, if we are going to go with DL players at #8, I think we need to go with the new model DTs that are out there like this guy and Mason Graham. Strong, aggressive, fast movers. My reasoning is that they are fully capable of playing DE in a 3-4 and can move back to DT in a 4-3 set up just as easily. On the other side of the equation, there's a big difference between a 3-4 Edge guy and a 4-3 DE, making that transfer difficult. It's the Brain Burns problem: quick and long works for a 3-4 Edge but he was too light for a 4-3 DE, especially in the run defense. The fact that he was on a team transitioning between the two types of defenses meant that even after the 3-4 switch was complete, he didn't have the personnel alongside him to really hit his stride. So, if we have to go defense on the pick, make it one of the more athletic DTs in the draft, IMO.

Soooo many teams trying to trade back in this class. It's kinda been an easy to see situation with so few true blue chip players in this draft. I hope we stick at 8 and go with BPA. My preference is for Warren, but there are some very, very good players that could amazingly fall to us based on trade ups ahead or just terrible picks being made.