kungfoodude

That's not what Bryce was pitched to be. Nor was the, what, 4th or 5th Tepper rebuild iteration? That's the problem with all this. You trade all this draft capital up to get these guys(Bryce, XL, etc) and then when they get their opportunities they can't hack it. As I have said many times, I view this as less of a development issue as I do an evaluation issue. We just suck at identifying talent correctly. It fails us all too often. If it was solely development, so many of these guys that left here after being failed draft picks would be studs. That is literally almost never the case.

Maybe had he been drafted where he was supposed to, 2nd/3rd round by a team that didn't have immediate and critical needs at his position then it would have been different. I generally tend to not believe that but at least he could have developed where he needs to, buried on a depth chart and with no pressure to perform.

You are correct. I forgot that Glenn hired him when he went up there.

INB4 Milroe is ineffective Alabama QB #4 in a row. The curse of Jalen Hurts continues.

Tua might be Bryce's ceiling at this point.

Or despite the fact that Wilks is no longer even in the NFL coaching at all? Wilks seemed good in comparison to what we had at the time. That was a devastatingly low bar to clear.

No. Bryce is almost Clausen bad.....almost. That kid....wow.

https://x.com/mike_e_kaye/status/1968764235833282870 Awesome! He dealt with these issues at SC too so if we just wait it out until the 2028 season, we are good to go!

It's a waste of a pick, TBH. I suppose given how poorly we draft, there is certainly an argument for doing so. Both Howell and Winston would be very capable hands to land us a #1 overall pick.

I don't really think that is going to be the case here, especially given track record and results. It would be nice, since Morgan is a Panther. I just don't see any indication of that.

The time to do that has passed. It was during the offseason and the draft. I mean....the message was sent years ago when this roster was destroyed and subsequently never went anywhere.

Burns was and is not worth what he is getting paid(like you are saying about Brown). Good player, for sure, but never has been dominant. Likely never will be.

That's one of those bets you really have to convince an IRL sportsbook to do, typically for a pretty large wager. I have been trying to get one to give me favorable odds on Panthers not having a winning season before 2030 for the past two offseasons. No takers yet, even though I offered a five figure bet up.

I am pretty sure I am not the one sounding ridiculous lauding a guy that looks like a poor man's Kyle Allen. But, carry on.

He does seem to allow GM's more rope than HC's. I assume that is just "access" so to speak.

Smitty had that dawg in him. XL has a sea slug in him.

You paid attention to that roster down there at all? Did that logic work for Howell/Winston when they were starting? How about Josh Rosen? JaMarcus Russell? I guess starting in the NFL is now the litmus test for being a good NFL starter? All hail HOF QB, PJ Walker!

Yeah, I don't disagree. I am also skeptical of how close to the hot seat these guys really are.

How about just lay back and let it happen? No Matt Rhule BS. I am tired of panicked dum-dum roster moves for a bad team. The team is bad, whether we have Bryce or not.

Spencer Rattler is Dollar Tree Sam Howell. Sam Howell is Dollar General Jameis Winston. I know that we suck at QB but maybe shoot a little higher than bottom third of the NFL QB backup. Everyone isn't an outlier. I swear fans desperation has them ignoring all logic and reasoning.

Spencer Rattler sucks. Can we please stop dumpster diving. It has never ended well for us.

I wouldn't waste a late round pick on a 3rd string QB. You can just use that late round pick to get one.

TMac and Sanders are the only two of our receivers in the middlish of the pack(1.0 and 0.6/R) for Expected YAC/R above actual YAC/R. Hilariously, XL is 2nd to last in the NFL at -3. Only Diggs is lower at -6.

I think the game breaker WR is a bit overrated. Not that they don't have value but a finely tuned offense will produce open players and big plays without the need for a Ted Ginn Jr. The tuning on this offensive machine is anything but fine.

I am sure it may eat at him but if his response is to just basically not try, then I think this story is essentially over. The NFL is not for the weak. It's a tough slog to maintain a spot in this league